Comments on: A Pakistani Abroad: Zardari’s ill-fated trip to England http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: G-W http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31805 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:02:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31805 All weather “enemy” India offers 5 million, all weather “friend” China offers only 1.5 million.

More not be said.

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By: Seth http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31729 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:59:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31729 (retrying)

What about allegations of spending aid money elsewhere?

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn -content-library/dawn/news/world/03-aid- for-2005-pakistan-quake-spent-elsewhere- report-ss-05

Combine this with the conditions in K-L bill and this looks real. If true, unfortunate. But, I must say, that this could have happened in India too. When CWG organizers can buy a TP roll for 100 dollars, anything is possible in India.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31727 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:28:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31727 I guess, this is why the Indian Govt was reluctant to provide aid to Pakistan:

DAWN

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Friday seemed unsure about how to respond to a $5 million aid offer from India to help it meet its flood crisis.

The offer was made by Indian External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna in a telephonic conversation with his Pakistani counterpart Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

Mr Krishna described the offer as a “gesture of solidarity with the people of Pakistan in their hour of need”, a statement issued by the Indian High Commission here said.

A statement by Foreign Office here on Mr Krishna’s call did not mention the Indian aid offer. However, sources in the foreign ministry indicated that it was being considered.

“We have not rejected the offer outright and a decision would be made soon,” a senior official told Dawn.

—Staff Reporter

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31717 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 05:44:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31717 (Failed post, retrying)

Mortal1 said:

> If I’m not mistaken, that’s more than triple of what’s been given by Pakistan’s best buddy, China.

Pakistan is possibly following Machiavelli’s (or was it Sun Tzu’s) advice to keep your friends close and your enemies closer ;-).

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31716 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 05:39:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31716 Mortal1 said:

> If I’m not mistaken, that [India’s offer of aid] ‘s more than triple of what’s been given by Pakistan’s best buddy, China.

Pakistan is possibly following Machiavelli’s (or was it Sun Tzu’s) advice to keep your friends close and your enemies closer ;-).

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31711 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 02:11:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31711 @”It is not just one hand clapping, because there is honest appreciation of the gesture and a desire for peace” Posted by prasadgc

The desire for peace can be seen in the people of India & Pakistan. It can also be seen (to a certain extent) in the democratically elected civilian Govts of the 2 countries but as far as the poeple who matter in Pakistan are concerned i.e the Generals in Rawalpindi, the desire for peace, still seems very elusive. And I say this based on their track record & actions alone. From planning & executing various acts of terrorism in India through it’s ‘non-state’ actors to their persistant attempts at ‘bleeding India with a thousand cuts’ & breaking it via proxy wars in Punjab, Kashmir & Eastern India, the actions of the Pakistani army clearly indicate that they have no intentions of making peace with India.

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31710 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 01:42:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31710 Mortal1 posted:

‘India offers $5 million in aid to Pakistan in hour of need’

http://tribune.com.pk/story/39008/india- offers-5m-in-aid-to-pakistan/

I found it very uplifting to read the first 7 readers’ comments. It is not just one hand clapping, because there is honest appreciation of the gesture and a desire for peace. For the first time in many days, I feel there is hope for normalised relations between our two countries.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31704 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:05:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31704 On the same note, another glaring statistic:

Aid given to Pakistan by the US, a country considered as an enemy by most Pakistanis & despite being in the worst economic slump since the great depression & a huge deficit: $84 million (expected to surpass $100 million in the next few days)

Aid given to Pakistan by China, a country considered as Pakistan’s best best friend by most Pakistanis & despite having fastest growing economy in the world (10% +) & a huge surplus: App $1.5 million

Hopefully, this will make Pakistanis realize that the chinese aren’t really as close & “all-weather” a friend, after all. It’s one thing to veto in favor of a country in the UN but it’s a different thing to put your money where your mouth is & help a friend in need.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31702 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:13:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31702 ‘India offers $5 million in aid to Pakistan in hour of need’

http://tribune.com.pk/story/39008/india- offers-5m-in-aid-to-pakistan/

If I’m not mistaken, that’s more than triple of what’s been given by Pakistan’s best buddy, China.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/08/09/a-pakistani-abroad-zardaris-ill-fated-trip-to-england/comment-page-1/#comment-31698 Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:52:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=5920#comment-31698 Ganesh,

I’m kindda short on time here, to repsond to your good intentioned comments, so I’ll just sum it up with a simple saying “It takes two hands to clap”!

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