Comments on: The skewed narrative on Pakistan flood aid: “help me or I’ll kill you” http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/09/10/the-skewed-narrative-on-pakistan-flood-aid-help-me-or-ill-kill-you/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/09/10/the-skewed-narrative-on-pakistan-flood-aid-help-me-or-ill-kill-you/comment-page-1/#comment-32413 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 05:00:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6089#comment-32413 “But I’d like to ask readers here whether they think people are more likely to give money out of fear or out of kindness.”

II think there is too much over complicated high falutin analysis going on over basic human responses. The question, unconsciously, does injustice to the victims. Fear has nothing to do with it as far as I am concerned.

If the response has been below expectations, I think it could be said that people have have not donated because they see no reason to help those who generally act against their interests. If the response is along expected lines, then it is because they have donated, not out of fear, but out of basic human decency and compassion.

Donating out of fear is a response to blackmail. That is surely not applicable in this context.

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By: nvrforgetmbai http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/09/10/the-skewed-narrative-on-pakistan-flood-aid-help-me-or-ill-kill-you/comment-page-1/#comment-32390 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:03:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6089#comment-32390 >>Is the narrative that we need to help the flood victims for our own safety helping or hindering compassion?

It is hindering aid as nobody likes to be blackmailed. On the other hand, most of these articles with a theme of give me or else were written by Pakistanis. Pls read

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew s/asia/pakistan/7941820/Pakistan-floods- an-emergency-for-the-West.html
or
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/com mentators/ayesha-siddiqa-my-country-need s-help-not-disapproval-2052787.html

More importantly read the comments. The following themes emerge. I will not donate becoz:
1) Pak govt is very corrupt. Money will not reach the people but line pockets of the elite.
2) we are suffering in global meltdown – no money to donate.
3) if they can afford nukes they should be able to take care of their own country. If not, their Prez can sell his castle in Normandy.
4) Wikileaks shows that Pak is betraying US and covertly supporting Taliban leading to deaths in Nato troops. Why should we help the enemy?
5)These people hate us anyways – burning flag and Cameron pictures. Why should we help them?
6) Where is China/Islamic countries?
7)I dislike all Muslims.

While it is not possible to handle or answer point 7, some clear analysis and answers to point 1-6 should help.

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/09/10/the-skewed-narrative-on-pakistan-flood-aid-help-me-or-ill-kill-you/comment-page-1/#comment-32382 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:15:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6089#comment-32382 777xxx777 said:

> Pakistan government asks for help from those who dont want to give but refuses help from those who want to extend hand of friendship with open heart.

I was also disappointed to read this: http://bit.ly/cNZ8Kb

If I was from a third country, I would ask myself why I would want to donate when the Pakistani government clearly has the luxury of selectively refusing some aid. Shame on them.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/09/10/the-skewed-narrative-on-pakistan-flood-aid-help-me-or-ill-kill-you/comment-page-1/#comment-32357 Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:42:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6089#comment-32357 Yeah right. Pakistan government asks for help from those who dont want to give but refuses help from those who want to extend hand of friendship with open heart.

Pakistan high commisioner to India says that Pak government machinery has no channel to accept aid from Indians and route to flood victims.

So tell me all u Pakistani guys here, is your government being such pig headed about India, helping any bit to flood victims. Your government says it will not join hands with India even if that means prolonged suffering for its own people.

I guess people sitting in Pakistan parliament are far more corrupt and pig headed fools than those sitting in Indian Parliament.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/09/10/the-skewed-narrative-on-pakistan-flood-aid-help-me-or-ill-kill-you/comment-page-1/#comment-32353 Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:30:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6089#comment-32353 Myra,

Also, the aid factor is certainly affected by the wave of anti-Islamic sentiment steadily spreading in the US & western cuntries (Germany, France, UK etc). The general reaction that I got (about giving for the flood victims)in the US, was “if they (Pakistanis) hate us so much, burn our flags & support the terrorists who to kill our troops & threaten us at home, why the hell should we help them? Let the terrorists help them”. It’s unfortunate but that’s the sentiment currently prevalent in the US.

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By: Umairpk http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/09/10/the-skewed-narrative-on-pakistan-flood-aid-help-me-or-ill-kill-you/comment-page-1/#comment-32349 Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:36:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6089#comment-32349 Myra
“But I’d like to know what readers think. Is the narrative that we need to help the flood victims for our own safety helping or hindering compassion?”

-The people in the villages are more open hearted and kind/generous. And now you have experienced that on your own while on the ground.
As far as helping the flood victims is concerned, I think the notion that help is necessary for security is certainly hindering compassion and affecting donations. Instead the slogan should have been that these people have entreprenurial skills and helping them regain their lost property would speed up the recovery, we need to do the correct thing.

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/09/10/the-skewed-narrative-on-pakistan-flood-aid-help-me-or-ill-kill-you/comment-page-1/#comment-32347 Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:25:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6089#comment-32347 > ”But I’d like to ask readers here whether they think people are more likely to give money out of fear or out of kindness.”

I don’t know about that, but I would have asked the opposite question: “Are people likely to give money in spite of fear?”

I would think most people outside Pakistan have a rather unfavourable impression of the country these days, which would tend to harden their hearts, yet plenty of them are also motivated by the Bernard Shaw philosophy: “I have no enemies under eleven.” I normally wouldn’t want to contribute to a country whose controlling elite have refined a policy of diplomacy through terror, yet the idea of millions of children being exposed to needless danger of dysentery and cholera motivates me to contribute my mite.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/09/10/the-skewed-narrative-on-pakistan-flood-aid-help-me-or-ill-kill-you/comment-page-1/#comment-32343 Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:30:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6089#comment-32343 @”But I’d like to ask readers here whether they think people are more likely to give money out of fear or out of kindness.”

National govts, specifically in western countries (US, UK EU etc) are certainly motivated by fear, while giving aid to Pakistan but individuals are mostly giving on humanitarian grounds & not out of fear. If american troops were not engaged in AfPak, I seriously doubt that my govt would have provided $200 mn +, to a country, where a vast majority of the population hates us with a passion.

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