Comments on: Claiming Jinnah’s mantle: Musharraf joins the queue Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 By: Windturner Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:42:04 +0000 @Umair and others… Dividing a place for two religious buildings need not necessarily divide the people. In the same state there are many religious places where hindus and muslims have their places of worship sharing the same walls.. Mathura and Banaras are a case in point. There have been very few riots at these places… perhaps not so much because of religious harmony but because of the fact that religion is a BIGGG business and nobody wants to go out of business there. The salesmen of salvation in Mathura and Banaras realized it soon after Ayodhya episode and have not paid even the lip service to the right wing BJP’s rhetoric of so called cleansing of these places.

As for Ayodhya, temple holds the same emotional attachment to the right wing BJP as Kashmir to Pakistan leadership… they will rent out for its construction but would be the last people to want it resolved since that takes away their one and only bargaining chip. It is now for the people to see through and beyond their game.

India has had it’s 9 minutes of fame where many of them actually started to believe when their leaders proclaimed super power status. I believe commonwealth games fiasco has shown the mirror to the naked emperor. Problem is, now every kid and everyone else is saying that the emperor has no clothes, but the emperor is still not ready to look down.

By: 007XXX Thu, 07 Oct 2010 15:18:45 +0000 @kEiThZ
U r right!!

By: kEiThZ Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:42:13 +0000 @777

Why do you let Rex Minor get to you? I don’t even readh his incoherent BS anymore. The guy is obviously a bigot who prefers to justify his bigotry by high-minded (and obviously biased) reading of history.

Pashtuns going to conquer all of South Asia and smash existing power structures? That’s laughable. Call me when they figure out a way to cross the Indus.

By: pakistan Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:40:57 +0000 @777
I hereby withdraw all my previous post to you. Sorry. we should stop it now.
Rex Minor

By: kEiThZ Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:37:42 +0000 The guy was a scoundrel to be sure.

But I am more inclined to think he was just a bumbling fool. Just look at Kargil for example. What could possibly convince educated and trained generals that such a plan would have gotten anywhere. It made neither tactical nor strategic sense.

Same for his takeover of the country. It’s something he just fell into. I really doubt that he necessarily had the intention to take over.

That said, to his credit, he did do some good for Pakistan. And he may well have been a more competent administrator than even the government in power today (mind you he had essentially farmed out Army Officers into the civil service to help him).

Over the long run though, what Pakistan needs is real democracy to take root, not a revolving door policy between the COAS post and the Presidency. Such democracy is very messy. It means sometimes accepting bad governance (just look at the USA under Bush Jr.). Whether Pakistanis have the stomach for this is debatable.

By: 777xxx777 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:07:35 +0000 Small corection:
“So if any Indians out there want to discuss or doubt the genuineness of my [ayodhya] comments above then I am all up for a discussion.”

By: 777xxx777 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:03:49 +0000 @Rex,

Your problem is you see everything else as lower to your religion. And that’s why you ELEVATED me to being a muslim as if being a hindu is a low grade status. I don’t mind being called a muslim as I have studied Quran and believe Islam is a great faith, but if you say u ‘elevated’ me by calling muslim then I have a problem. Had u just said “777 is a muslim becoz of him promoting peace” then I would have loved it but u went on to add “despite him calling himself a hindu”, what was the need to add this? If you don’t know then I am telling you that such statements are definitely derogatory even if u did not mean any offence. Its either that your proficiency with English language is very poor or your intentions are too political and bad.

My proposal was not at all about religion it was all about upholding the law of the land and bring justice and peace to all but you saw it from your lens of religion as usual. That’s why I say thank God India is not enlightened same way as Pakistan where every non-muslim is officially there-to-be-butchered.

And I care least about your opinion for my proposal. All I care is that whether my fellow countrymen consider it genuine and think about it with honesty. So if any Indians out there want to discuss or doubt the genuineness of my comments above then I am all up for a discussion.

And such hard-line religious angle of yours make you perfectly eligible to be an Indian Neta (leader/politician).

As I have said before also your choice of words is extremely poor. And why the hell I am back in discussion with you.

By: 777xxx777 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:53:55 +0000 this is really bad. reuters not allowing me to reply to Rex. Even reuters is taking sides :(

By: 777xxx777 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:47:15 +0000 what the hell why is reuters not posting my comment

By: 777xxx777 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 05:32:11 +0000 Mushie backstabs pakistan AGAIN by claiming Pakistan is carrying out illegal activities against India through its state agencies like ISI and PA.