Comments on: “Orientalism” in Afghanistan and Pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: rehmat http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33444 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:07:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33444 typo: out of an [ON]going discussion.

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By: rehmat http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33443 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:06:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33443 Rex:

I am not getting into marathon of discussion on man’s usage of GOD’s words.

I really do not have that kind of time that I make new threads out of an going discussion. The original topic was to tell you that it is Pakistan’s Army that did 1971 and that is not even an argument. I have heard you on this. Thanks

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33434 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:49:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33434 @777
The believers know that God’s words are the commandments of God. They do not become mumbo jumbo wheather followed by humans or not!
A blasphemy, I was careful not to use these words for Rehmat!
Rex Minor

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33433 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:18:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33433 @Rex
“I repeat God almighty’s words, WE ARE NOT TO JUDGE, and you call them mumbo jumbo”

Your English is real bad. Read again what rehmat said.
“these nice words become mumbo jumbo [if not followed]”

Do you get now?? He is saying that you have made God almighty’s words a mumbo jumbo by not following them yourself. In short you disgraced the God yourself. But then your head is too narrow to understand anything that God said.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33429 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 10:25:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33429 @Rehmat
Sometimes, I ask my self where have I landed?

I repeat God almighty’s words, WE ARE NOT TO JUDGE, and you call them mumbo jumbo.

I shall criticise any military which is set against the civilians, for sooner than later it ends up in a genocide. It is upto the criminal courts of a country or the United Nations to pass the judgement. If I were an Indian citizen I shall not only criticise the military but the civilian Govts. as well and demonstrate for the human rights of the Kashmiris and support their resistance.

We have left the so called 20th century of countries and terrotories. Today we are, more than in the past, concerned with the people, the real people of the human specie. Kashmiris are no longer the part of Indian empire and the Bengalis are no longer part of the so called Pakistan territory. If this message has not been understood by the educated intelligent citizens of India and Pakistan, then they are still living in the 20th century and are one century behind Europe.
I trust that my language is more clearer now and is no longer mumbo jumbo.
Have a peaceful day.
Rex Minor

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By: rehmat http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33417 Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:30:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33417 Rex
Ignore earlier 2 posts. i did not mean to post them.

“Who am I to judge, ” Though shall not judge, for though shall be judged”.
“I wonder what the Indian military interrogators found out from the Pakistan military who were with India as prisoners of war for a very long time”
***these nice words become mumbo jumbo if not followed. You say who are you to judge and still judging. By your own logic, you should stop criticizing Indian military. why don;t I see that?

In any matter, I think the only person who can convince you is your own conscious.

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By: rehmat http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33415 Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:11:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33415 Rex

“It would be of interest for records to know about the people who carried it out on ground. The results of the military campaign in Kashmir would become known once the military is out. Logic does not equal truth.”
***You are a fervent critic of Indian Military action in Kashmir even before the military is out.

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By: rehmat http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33416 Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:11:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33416 Rex

“It would be of interest for records to know about the people who carried it out on ground. The results of the military campaign in Kashmir would become known once the military is out. Logic does not equal truth.”
***You are a fervent critic of Indian Military action in Kashmir even before the military is out.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33389 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:25:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33389 @Rahmat
Piero Scarufi has lidted 300,000 deaths/killed against general Yahya for the genocide which was carried out during the 1971 military campaign. It would be of interest for records to know about the people who carried it out on ground. The results of the military campaign in Kashmir would become known once the military is out. Logic does not equal truth. There can be no logic in killings of innocent civilians!
Who am I to judge, ” Though shall not judge, for though shall be judged”.
I wonder what the Indian military interrogators found out from the Pakistan military who were with India as prisoners of war for a very long time.
Those countries who commit military against civilians are condemned by God, they do not need our condemnation.

Rex Minor
Ps Thanks for the info.

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By: rehmat http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/22/orientalism-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-33362 Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:48:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6285#comment-33362 Rex

“I have not yet traced the so called paper which was presented to mr Bhutto by the commission”
***Good that you are taking time and reading. Do not hang on to that paper alone.

“I shudder to tghink equaly about the Indian military who is now in Kashmir..”
***WE know that one. To shudder or not to shudder over 1971 genocide in E.Pakistan is the question.

“It is not very easy to read easily the crimes of a military and civilians against fellow humans, I shall take my time.”
***what we definitely can do is put a blame on who did 1971 genocide: is it Pakistan, India or they killed each other? take your research to its logical conclusion or may be that not enough evidence to blame anyone.

As I said earlier Pakistan Press knows this and has written articles on this. I think it has even apologized (if i am not wrong) to Bangladesh. Numbers killed are hard to tell. It may not be 3million, it could 10times less.

All I can say is that if you know what has been happening in Kashmir and how many killed/year in Kashmir by Indian military, 1971 genocide by Pakistan and the numbers died in such a short time would give you sleepless nights. Go with open mind and the information given is for helping you, rest you can find on you own.

The word genocide is not associated with Kashmir killings by Indian Military, the word used is oppression. In 1971 it was genocide. My intention is not to make Pakistan look like a demon but to call spade a spade and that we should not walk around with wrong information.

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