Comments on: On either side of the Pakistan-Afghanistan border: Bajaur and Kunar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: buy fifa 15 coins http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-53281 Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:33:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-53281 I cling on to listening to the news update talk about getting free online grant applications so I have been looking around for the finest site to get one. Could you advise me please, where could i acquire some?

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-33561 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:34:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-33561 Rex Minor: ” Slowly but gradually the Pashtoons would calm down and go about looking after the orchids, agriculture and fruits export business, leaving their klashnikovs in their homes, the words of the President of Afghanistan, not mine.”

You forgot opium. That gets the most money now-a-days in the glorious land of the Pashtuns.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-33539 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 19:22:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-33539 I have got a very simple proposal, the yanks are not wanted in any part of the world. Most monsters of the current world go back to their caves or villas and would disappear, making the world more peaceful than before.
The monsters created by the paranoid of the western Govts, would simply starve their resistance spirit. Slowly but gradually the Pashtoons would calm down and go about looking after the orchids, agriculture and fruits export business, leaving their klashnikovs in their homes, the words of the President of Afghanistan, not mine.

Now that the emerging economies of the new world are bringing long over due prosperity for their hitherto poverty stricken people, future Obamas and Bonaparts of the western world could try to optimise their export business in order to protect the domestic industry.
Rex Minor
PS watch a GI’s high school performance in a flight,when he or she is asked to fill in the landing card before landing in a european country.

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By: kEiThZ http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-33535 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:27:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-33535 Myra,

Unfortunately, these are the realities of war and multi-national operations, especially when the principle allies distrust each other.

In my most humble opinion, this can only be solved from the top down. The soldier on the ground is fairly bright (unlike Rex Minor’s characterization of US GI…they all have high school and most have some education beyond that) and usually forms opinions based on what they read in the press. The constant stream of news about Pakistan’s duplicitious nature does colour the situation on the ground.

And it’s only natural for soldiers to trust those they fight with. That’s how camraderie works. Put me in the same situation, and I would most certainly take the word of my Afghan interpreter over that of the Pakistani Colonel. When lives are on the line (particularly my own), there’s no room for political correctness. I’m sorry, but that’s the reality of combat. Those who judge, usually have the luxury of comfy armchairs away from incoming enemy fire.

So what’s the solution? I don’t believe it’s bottom up. I believe it’s top down. Pakistan has to show that it’s serious by taking out those high level, highly visible targets that bother the US so much. Once that happens, the troops in the field will start to view the Pakistanis as much more trustworthy and start to confide in them a lot more.

That said, at the lower levels, co-operation has to improve. And I am sympathetic to Pakistani frustrations. However, even the Pakistanis don’t seem to realize that a lot of it is plain old fashioned bureaucracy, not some American conspiracy to screw them over. It’s the left hand not telling the right hand what’s going on. Just look at the inter-service rivalries in the US military alone. Then tack on all the other US players and all the coalition partners and their participating agencies. It’s a miracle things are functioning as they are right now. This is something the Pakistanis have to accept. It’s going to a slow and long process to improve co-operation and there actually is a lot of sympathy and desire on the part of Western forces in Afghanistan to pull that off.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-33483 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:06:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-33483 “@KPSingh
You have gone loco!” Rex Minor

Coming from you, sir, that’s not only exceptionally funny but also quite complimentary! LMAO

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-33479 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:39:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-33479 @KPSingh
You have gone loco!

Rex Minor

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-33476 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:14:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-33476 Rex Minor: “From your various posts, you do not easily accept the consequences of history and always ask if more time had been given……”

First of all your historic knowledge seems to be very limited. You did not even know about the genocide in East Pakistan and you were asking Rehmat and others for reference in order to understand what happened there. With this kind of historic knowledge, I find it funny that you are advising about knowing historic consequences. How does it make you an expert on consequences when you do not have any authentic knowledge on world history? Will you be able to cite genuine references if I press for them in future arguments?

“How much time do you reckon a President needs to close the Guetanamo guest House? And how much time and number of lives the Commander in chief is allowed before he ends his aggression in a foreign land?”

What aggression? Do you expect a bunch of lunatics to bomb and kill 3000 innocent citizens of your country and expect them to get away with it? Especially when your country is the only super power in the world? Aggression begets aggression. First of all your co-religionist Bin Laden and his supporters launched the offensive against the US. So they are back in Afghanistan hunting him down. Iraq was the only blunder and Americans admit their mistakes unlike your kind who always blame others even for your own mistakes.

“He framed Hillary Clinton as a war monger for supporting George W in the senate vote for Iraq war, and now within two years he has proven that George W was more competent than Barrack Obama is at least in decision making.”

That must be some kind of decision making isn’t it? Lying to the Congress that Iraq had WMDs and attacking Iraq or cozying up with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and attacking Afghanistan? The right decision maker would have hurt Pakistan and Saudi Arabia hard for 9/11. There is nothing else in this world that can be pointed as the source of Islamic terrorism. Instead, the idiot made the two villains the closest allies. Can anyone fight a drug war by turning the largest drug cartel as the ally? Bush did that. Obama came in and pointed the finger right at the source of the problem. He said Afghanistan is not the problem. He knew that fixing Pakistan would fix the menace the world is suffering from. He ended the war in Iraq and has focused on Af-Pak. Give him some credit will ya?

“Probably not in law. Afghanistan has brought his fall down like the one before him in history,”

Afghan war is not over yet. So do not jump to any conclusions. He has had to fight many battles on different fronts at the same time since the day he walked in. In Bob Woodward’s book, “Obama’s wars” there is a famous statement Obama makes as a President elect – “During election I was worried about losing. Now seeing the war in Afghanistan, I am worried about winning it.” The words are not exactly the same. But he was honest about it. Americans have been kind to Pakistan. That is the reason why this war has dragged on like this. But things will tighten towards Pakistan. There is no choice since there are only two more years in his term as the President.

“the torture machinery of Guetanamo prison is still there and his foreign policy is in tatters.”

That’s good. I want those dogs to stay there as long as possible. Can you care to give some authentic references to substantiate your claim that his foreign policy is in tatters? Since you are in Germany, it must not be very difficult to get some.

“The GI’s are at the mercy of Petros who suddenly realised that in order to win the hearts and minds of the Afghans they need to learn the persian language.”

References please?

“Clowns are around Mr Obama, so were the words of four star General McChrystal, the GI’s cannot even speak or write proper american english?”

Need references. I read newspapers and blogs too. I’d like to know where McChrystal has said this. The GIs have to know how to read and write because they use GPS and modern technology a lot on their missions. They are not walking around with WW 1 rifles anymore. They get trained a lot and training needs the capability to read and write. They need to complete at least high school in order to be a GI. So please provide a reference.

“The UK prime minister might now demand of the Gorkha solidiers in their force in Afghanistan to at least speak english? What a farce, the soldiers are being asked to become teachers.”

Mind telling me where you are getting these wonderful facts from? These guys are not that dumb. They are professional soldiers. What I have read is that the Americans are trying train the Afghan army and to their dismay they find that most are illiterate. To teach them basics, the American trainers do not know Dari or Pashto. They do not have enough number of them to achieve their goals of making a strong and well trained Afghan national army. Is there a problem for you reading in English? I am wondering.

“Forget it, he is a looser now and no intelligent voter is likely to give him a second chance.”

I don’t know much about intelligent voter. Voting seems to be based on emotions rather than on rational thoughts most of the time. Votes reflect the mood. That’s all.

“Bill Clinton was a unique phenomina and received lots of help from the clintonin group, who would prefer Hillary in 2012 and no one else. We should all be prepared for a new republican President in 2012.”

So that he would shower Pakistani military with money and weapons and close his eyes. Dream on. Obama will make it so bad in Pakistan that any incoming President will have no choice but to complete the mission in Pakistan.

“In the meantime, the jehadis as you call the resistance people are changing course and mking use of the mail service. Parcels with dangerous material is now being sent from Greece. Time has moved on!! ”

Something for you to feel very proud about. This tells me that you sympathize with terrorists and you support their actions. It makes you a terrorist in heart. The repercussions of such actions will only come back to haunt you and your people. Remember that.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-33474 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 18:52:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-33474 Rex Minor: “Those who stayed at home and made republicans come back, were his voters, he has let them down!!”

No he has not. He has actually stemmed the slide after taking over the reins. Economy tanked in 2008 just as elections were going on. Auto companies were at the brink of collapse. There were two wars going on simultaneously. Housing industry had collapsed. US had lost its respect and stature in the international circles. Imaging managing all this in a whirlpool of crisis and trying to stay afloat. That is exactly what Obama has done. In early 2009, the Dow Jones had dropped down to 6000. Today it has recovered back to 11000. Obama brought in health care reforms which will help a lot of unemployed and self employed people. He has brought in banking reforms that will prevent banks from running wild. He closed down the war in Iraq. He has done the right thing towards Af-Pak. He has tied foreign aid to Pakistan with pre-conditions so that its military does not siphon off the money for its activities against India. He has reached out to the Muslim world by making trips to some of those nations. He took up the first step in global nuclear disarmament, along with Russian PM. He has called a spade a spade and is forcing China not to manipulate its currency to make profits using unfair means. He has done a lot in these two years compared to anyone else. It is a pity that you have no clue about his accomplishments in such a short time. You are celebrating because your beloved country is getting hurt on its rear end by Obama’s focused Af-Pak strategy.

Unfortunately he is sitting on the hot seat when people are getting frustrated. They will take it out on him and his supporters since there is no other punching bag available.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-33471 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:53:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-33471 @KPSingh
I beg to differ with your analogy.
Mr Obama was not elected by the Tea Party people. Those who stayed at home and made republicans come back, were his voters, he has let them down!!

From your various posts, you do not easily accept the consequences of history and always ask if more time had been given…… How much time do you reckon a President needs to close the Guetanamo guest House? And how much time and number of lives the Commander in chief is allowed before he ends his aggression in a foreign land?
He framed Hillary Clinton as a war monger for supporting George W in the senate vote for Iraq war, and now within two years he has proven that George W was more competent than Barrack Obama is at least in decision making. Probably not in law. Afghanistan has brought his fall down like the one before him in history, the torture machinery of Guetanamo prison is still there and his foreign policy is in tatters. The GI’s are at the mercy of Petros who suddenly realised that in order to win the hearts and minds of the Afghans they need to learn the persian language. Clowns are around Mr Obama, so were the words of four star General McChrystal, the GI’s cannot even speak or write proper american english? The UK prime minister might now demand of the Gorkha solidiers in their force in Afghanistan to at least speak english? What a farce, the soldiers are being asked to become teachers.

Forget it, he is a looser now and no intelligent voter is likely to give him a second chance. Bill Clinton was a unique phenomina and received lots of help from the clintonin group, who would prefer Hillary in 2012 and no one else. We should all be prepared for a new republican President in 2012.
In the meantime, the jehadis as you call the resistance people are changing course and mking use of the mail service. Parcels with dangerous material is now being sent from Greece. Time has moved on!!

Rex Minor

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/10/31/on-either-side-of-the-pakistan-afghanistan-border-bajaur-and-kunar/comment-page-1/#comment-33470 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:44:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6338#comment-33470 To add on to KP’s comment, after yesterday’s results, I think Obama will get a lot more serious in AfPak & tougher with Pakistan to show some positive results in the run up to 2012. The Dems were steam rolled, no doubt but a lot can change in 2 yrs. The only positive for me from last night, is that another Indian American was elected governer (Nikki Randhawa Haley, South Carolina).

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