Comments on: Al Qaeda, its branches and Afghanistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: OKTA http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34722 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 22:55:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34722 the danger of AL Qaeda is its ideology, not its physic. As ideology it penertartes every where. look its present as uS army capten which kill some of his army colleagues. Its spread to many country, pakistan, yemen and also in NATO member countries and others US strategic allies including gulf countries.
Because Al Qaeda is create by US, US knows the root cause of its devian, the solution is not war on terror, but to solve the root cause of the devians.
Indonesia is one of the victims of US wrong doing. The sooner the better the problem solve.

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By: brian-decree http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34482 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:38:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34482 Thanks for making it obvious!

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34392 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 03:39:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34392 Thanks for suggestion!

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34391 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 03:39:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34391 ha ha ha ha
Thanks for suggestion!

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34390 Thu, 09 Dec 2010 03:38:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34390 ha ha ha ha
Thanks for suggestion!

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By: brian-decree http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34387 Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:19:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34387 you are sick.. you need help

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34350 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:53:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34350 “capitalism is a much more oppressive system in general than socialism”

That is debatable ofcourse.

“your paste only highlights your bias because if you really wanted to make you point honestly all you would have to do is paste both your comments together”

I would say there is a communication gap here may be due to fact that we may be belonging to different cultures and hence sense of judgement of bias may be different and therefore reflected differently in language. You asked:

“Why do you not say that the true horrors of capitalism are beyond anyone’s imagination? Do you agree with this?”

And I wanted to reply that as an Indian I certainly know the horrors of capitalism because Brits did it to us for 200 years. So there really is no bias in this but if still u think otherwise then do so on your own.

“Aside from the fact that this is completely untrue as I pointed out,”

You may choose to think so if it makes you feel better. Closing eyes does not mean that problems does not exist.

“I think it’s more horrendous to treat your own citizens in a half decent way while plundering, capturing and destroying other countries and cultures, than it is to treat your own citizens poorly while respecting other countries and cultures enough to leave them alone”

Our opinions differ on this one. Seems you are carrying some sort of hatred and may be a feeling of vengeance in your heart against capitalists due to some particular incident in your life. I sympathize with you.

“What your suggesting is a very racist ideology, and I think you’re too proud to admit when you’re wrong”

WOW If someone does not accept your viewpoint then one is racist. I definitely do not want to continue the discussion with someone who loses temper and sense of language so quickly. Goodbye!

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By: brian-decree http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34349 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 09:26:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34349 I don’t condemn communism because I’m responding to you and creating a counterpoint to balance yours, and because capitalism is a much more oppressive system in general than socialism, which accounts for a tiny minority of governments in history..

Your paste only highlights your bias because if you really wanted to make you point honestly all you would have to do is paste both your comments together, as such:

ON CAPITALIST DICTATORSHIP
“As someone from India I know what capitalist dictatorship is. Brits did it to us for 200 years or so”

ON COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP
“The true horrors of communism (military rule) are beyond anyone’s imagination”

This provides the context in which your bias is obvious.

Also the question of whether its better to oppress your own citizens or others was not directed at china, it was a question about autonomous governments, attempting to find rationality on your comment:

“My point was that capitalists at least do not put their OWN people in camp for just filing a complaint, against any Govt officer, in local police station.”

Aside from the fact that this is completely untrue as I pointed out, I find the fact that you are biased in this way very disturbing..

I think it’s more horrendous to treat your own citizens in a half decent way while plundering, capturing and destroying other countries and cultures, than it is to treat your own citizens poorly while respecting other countries and cultures enough to leave them alone.

What your suggesting is a very racist ideology, and I think you’re too proud to admit when you’re wrong. In fact you look like the kind of person that is willing to go to extreme lengths to avoid that. The conversation is over.

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34333 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 03:45:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34333 @brian
“Why do you not say that the true horrors of capitalism are beyond anyone’s imagination? Do you agree with this?”

You read nothing and conclude too much. I am copy pasting my post here again.
“Certainly NOT. As someone from India I know what capitalist dictatorship is. Brits did it to us for 200 years or so”
Does that answer your question.
Reading is fast becoming a lost art.

Both of us can go on forever because mankind’s history has been shameful. But you are single minded on picking on capitalism and not equally condemning communism. That’s what I wanted to convey that Yes capitalists have committed horrible crimes but so have communists. Why then I not see a condemnation for communists?

“Do you think it’s more important to judge the brutality of a government by what they do to their own citizens (the ones they are mandated to govern), than by what they do to the citizens of sovereign nations”

Communists China govt is NOT Mandated. Mandated Governments do NOT govern but SERVE the people who mandated them. First get your basics right.
YES it’s more important to judge the brutality of a government by what they do to their own citizens.

“And don’t try to tell me for a second that this behavior is exclusive to communist governments that’s absolutely ridiculous…”

When did I say that?? Almost all Indians on this blog accept the fact that current Indian govt has been brutal to Kashmiris and has grossly mishandled Kashmir. I would advise you to come out of your habit of presuming too much. Read, Comprehend and then Comment.

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By: brian-decree http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/11/22/al-qaeda-its-branches-and-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-34314 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:28:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6448#comment-34314 Yea pretty sure I read you comment.. and pretty sure it’s sitting right above mine…

You said, “The true horrors of communism (military rule) are beyond anyone’s imagination.”
Which is not true at all… what the Japanese did in China tops anything the Chinese have ever done.. Thousands of Chinese were experimented on with chemical and biological agents and dissected while they were still alive.
Their torture techniques and punishment for any form of dissent was second to none. To this day they hack up dolphins with machetes while they’re still alive.. and support almost the entire black market for endangered species, usually killed and eaten for supposed bizarre medical benefits like sexual aphrodisiac etc…

In capitalist south Vietnam, just before the war, monks used to sit in the city squares and burn themselves alive with petrol to make a statement of how brutal and repressive the government of Diem was.

I can go on forever…

But it’s not me that’s implying anything, I just expect you to follow your own advice when condemning political cultures — “Also try to find out why does China not condemn any of Islamic fundamentalists like AQ, Taliban, etc?”

Why do you not say that the true horrors of capitalism are beyond anyone’s imagination? Do you agree with this?
If yes then we have nothing left to talk about..

PS. Do you think it’s more important to judge the brutality of a government by what they do to their own citizens (the ones they are mandated to govern), than by what they do to the citizens of sovereign nations?
And don’t try to tell me for a second that this behavior is exclusive to communist governments that’s absolutely ridiculous…

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