Comments on: On WikiLeaks, India, Pakistan and a partisan media http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: buy fifa 15 coins http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-53362 Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:12:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-53362 manfroni citind analizzati intregul genomes cheap generic viagra online review cycle cialis viagra online canadian instansi cheap viagra real gabi cheap viagra new zealand science canadian viagra sites.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-34510 Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:09:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-34510 777xxx777: “Surprisingly people in Pakistan do not need wheat or rice but only false hatred propaganda to survive.”

I agree entirely. For some reason Pakistan’s leaders have tried to maintain unity of their country by creating virtual monsters out of India – Hindus are out to get Muslims, RAW is behind all turmoils, India poses existential threat to Pakistan, India is bullying etc. This mindset results in unnecessary apprehension and over reaction that make things worse. Lack of progress and continued slide towards radicalism and backwardness has made things even worse. Fear of India has been the uniting factor for Pakistan and its very survival. It is like being on an overdose of steroids. At some point it will destroy things from within. What can we do to change their perspectives? No matter what we tell them, they seem to keep going in the same circle of thought process.

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-34507 Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:01:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-34507 @Rehmat
“Back to the Baluchistan issue, ISI knows that India is not involved at the level they are doing the propaganda.”

I have a few people in my family who retired from Indian Military and I can tell for sure that FEAR of Indian Intelligence is THE BIGGEST BOGEY created by Pakistan EVER. Indian intelligence is anything BUT intelligent. Filled with absolute stupid and fools the RAW and IB are an absolute burden on Indian taxpayers’ money. And Kargil was the proof. Had Indian intelligence been any intelligent then Kargil could and would not have happened, mumbai would not have happened and so many things could have been stopped. And Pakistanis continue to believe in lies of their ISI that RAW is out to cut their country in half. Ha ha ha. That is the height of false propaganda. India is NOT at all involved in any level in Baluchistan. Extreme was when on Sri Lanka cricket team’s tour to Pakistan, the Pakistanis blamed Indian RAW for attacks on Lankan team when video footage clearly showed extreme lack of security on part of Pakistani agencies. Can you beat that?

The current Wikileaks fake emnating from Pakistan is just an addition to the existing ghost stories created by ISI which ofcourse satisfy the hunger of stomachs of ORDINARY people in Pakistan. Surprisingly people in Pakistan do not need wheat or rice but only false hatred propaganda to survive. God knows when will Pakistan stop its hatred campaign.

ISI has successfully INFECTED minds of ordinary Pakistanis with names like RAW and IB. These are nothing but bogeys. All you Pakistanis free your minds of these bogeys and see the light of day.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-34505 Mon, 13 Dec 2010 01:43:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-34505 Rehmat: “I can understand the India-Pak war is not as serious as blasphemy cases but I hope Omar Sheikh is charged with serious charges for provoking Pakistan to shift its defense into offense against India!!! This guy need to go. Gallows are waiting for this guy for a long time, no idea why the delay.”

Omar Sheikh is under protection right now. He is able to make phone calls to the President of Pakistan at will. Why would he go to the gallows? He still has many missions to accomplish on behalf of you know who. Soon, there will be a jail break and Omar Sheikh will disappear. And Pakistan will still be “looking for him”, while keeping him in a safe house.

“I would like to say that we need to be cautious in generalizing anything. We JUST CANNOT do that for Pakistan as a nation nor should Pakistanis do about India. Let us keep our comments to their govt and army and intelligence and NOT nation as a whole. It is counterproductive. I hope you take it positively.”

My impressions arise after reading comments from some Pakistanis here, albeit educated ones. I hope I am wrong. I certainly do have my gripe about Pakistan’s military cartel and its ISI. They definitely have gone rogue.

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By: rehmat http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-34499 Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:18:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-34499 @KPS

I can understand the India-Pak war is not as serious as blasphemy cases but I hope Omar Sheikh is charged with serious charges for provoking Pakistan to shift its defense into offense against India!!! This guy need to go. Gallows are waiting for this guy for a long time, no idea why the delay.

I would like to say that we need to be cautious in generalizing anything. We JUST CANNOT do that for Pakistan as a nation nor should Pakistanis do about India. Let us keep our comments to their govt and army and intelligence and NOT nation as a whole. It is counterproductive. I hope you take it positively.

“Persistent poking from Pakistan has not succeeded in provoking India into a major retaliation yet. India moved its troops, flexed its muscles etc. But that’s about it. It was not the fear of Pak nuclear retaliation. It was more to do with losing all international business overnight.”
***Latter is true if you look at that one travel warning to the Westerners last time Indian troops were moved to the India-Pak border forced them back. I hope nuclear retaliation is also taken into view too for our own sake. Having crackers is not enough if we have not educated the masses about safety. In any case there is no way war can solve anything. Pakistan is a case in point. Kashmir issue has worsened with violence and hardened Indian stance.

Back to the Baluchistan issue, ISI knows that India is not involved at the level they are doing the propaganda.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-34490 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:42:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-34490 Mortal,

You are correct. Thanks for the clarification:

http://www.latestnewsonline.net/india/pr anab-laughs-off-omar-sheikhs-hoax-calls/ 50587.html

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-34489 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:30:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-34489 “Omar Sheikh, the famous killer of Daniel Pearl, simply picked up a phone from his jail cell, called the Indian defense ministry and talked like a Pak general about bombing India”

Actually, I think he called Zardari, pretending to be Indian foreign minister Pranab Mukherji.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-34485 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:05:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-34485 rehmat: “It is desperation on ISI’s part since they lack substantial evidence so far of Indian involvement in Baluchistan. So they did this. Now even after withdrawing people will still continue to believe in the cooked up wikileak.”

When Mumbai attacks happened, Omar Sheikh, the famous killer of Daniel Pearl, simply picked up a phone from his jail cell, called the Indian defense ministry and talked like a Pak general about bombing India. It sent shock waves in the defense circles. How this guy, sitting in his jail cell could make an international call, and knew the exact number of the key people in Indian defense dept is anyone’s guess. Somebody wanted India to react out of emotion and use that to their advantage. Mumbai attacks, Parliament attack etc were run with an aim of provoking India into a war. All that was absent was emotional heads in India.

Now imagine the scenario where things are in the reverse. Let us say for hypothetical purposes, some major terrorist attack happens inside Pakistan. This attack is done in a commando style operation and all leads trace back to some Indian “non-state-actor” group or its intelligence agency. And on top of that, let us say some guy inside India does what Omar Sheikh did. Do you think Pakistan will wait? Based on the influence of Pakileak propaganda, Pakistani generals won’t even think for a minute. Retaliation would have been driven by absolute emotions and they have been itching to try their nukes.

Persistent poking from Pakistan has not succeeded in provoking India into a major retaliation yet. India moved its troops, flexed its muscles etc. But that’s about it. It was not the fear of Pak nuclear retaliation. It was more to do with losing all international business overnight. But any small provocation from the Indian side towards Pakistan or even a false proof like the Pakileaks is good enough to charge these emotionally blind people to react. They are very unstable now. And that is the danger India is facing. This is something that gets no sympathy from anyone else. We are alone in this regard.

I have no idea what the sleeping beauties in Delhi are up to. Are they preparing any counter strategies for all kinds of likely scenarios? We have a mentally sick nation sitting right next to us with nukes ready to go. There are plenty of Rex Minors in Pakistan today who rely on rumors and facts that float in the air to make their claims and justifications.

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By: rehmat http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-34465 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 23:09:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-34465 KPS
“Agency” has learnt well from the CIA. I do not think if the follwing is true:
“Was this done to instigate more violence against India?”

It is desperation on ISI’s part since they lack substantial evidence so far of Indian involvement in Baluchistan. So they did this. Now even after withdrawing people will still continue to believe in the cooked up wikileak.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/10/on-wikileaks-india-pakistan-and-a-partisan-media/comment-page-1/#comment-34436 Fri, 10 Dec 2010 20:39:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6511#comment-34436 rehmat: “Flo$ging is in order for the responsible! Who is behind all this misinformation?”

BBC article points at Pakistan’s ISI. Myra’s next article points at the same. Sometimes misinformation can lead to major disasters. Countries with nuke buttons are dangerous in this regard. They can act without any thinking or analysis. Was this done to instigate more violence against India? Pakistanis seem to have become emotional and unstable of late. Any kind of rumors, misinformation etc can create chaos. Both the newspapers and the ISI need to be condemned harshly for what they are doing.

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