Comments on: China’s South Asia tour: win-win meets zero sum http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: KINGFISHER http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-35590 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:57:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-35590 India is trying to be nice to avert the pressure created by China on the border by emphasizing on expanding trade commerce and cooperation. It is obvious because the past experience of 1962 war with china on record in battle field does not speak well for India.

And now it will be a catastrophic for India to stand in front of China in battle dress, though lot of war moral boosting movies were produced by India targeting Pakistan to boost up the moral of Indian Population but unfortunately no movie was produced targeting China.

India is in grave tension with China’s unpredictable activities as the veteran Economist PM of the country seems to be sweating inside out more so after the President of China’s US visit wherein HU Jintoa very sweetly brought home his view point to both US government and India about Tibet and Twain.

To any person with intelligence will understand that no amount of trade, commerce, and cooperation would facilitate China to withdraw from its commitment about Tibet and Twain issues may what it comes to accomplish the mission.

India would now realize the agony of enforcing untold miseries on the poor Kashmir people for decades as the Israeli government is doing to the Palestinians. China has yet not imposed its might on India but the impact has already been felt.

So India should realize what would it be if the full weight of China is imposed than what would the Indian’s condition would be particularly where would be the Political party that boasted of Indian might of Hindus and committed genocide. May be they have already forgotten about it but people have not..

The Indian hegemony in the region is indescribable reports the political activists. It is reliably gathered that first India installs a puppet government and then Siphons all economical, commercial, Industrial produces leaving the neighboring country financially crippled. That is what it did to skim and now the same project as is reported ventilates is in practice in another neighboring country having a secret defense pact so that the political opponents cannot protest out of fear of Indian army entering the country with some ominous plea.

Time has come for India to Change its attitude and activities with its neighbors and let the countries run their affairs by themselves and not interfere with ulterior motives to grab land, kill human like birds. In addition, show red eyes to the neighboring government and make them agree to comply with whatever it wants them to do.

In recent reports, it is revealed that Indian intelligence had been working in collusion with Karzia and Iranian government to undermine the war of terror and fighting against the Taliban’s with ulterior motives against Pakistan.

Before, closing the comment it is imperative to mention that in case India hackles with Tibet Issue then India is sure to go on a high jump which none will come to help stop it. Trade, no trade cooperation, or no cooperation of any nature, China would like to do things in peaceful manner and that is to submit to its legitimate demands.

I would refrain from commenting about India Pakistan relationship as after the high jump it will depend on India how it wants the relationship to be. I suppose with certainty that Pakistan will have the courtesy to wait for it and would not hurry to make any change on its own.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-34869 Wed, 29 Dec 2010 17:12:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-34869 The 20th century more or less saw the rise of the USA to a Super power and then due to the folly of its leaders, the strong hold of zionist lobbyists on its foreign policicies and the corruption of its capitalist institutions, the decline began in a dramatic speed becoming the most disliked Nation in its relations woith allies and foes in the world. The 21st century is witnessing the emergence of China as the Super power in the world in a very calculated and controlled manner, avoiding the mistakes of the others, and keeping to their cherished principle of non interfearance in other countries domestic arena. Let us hope that the new Super power would bring more good for the humanity and its socialist ideas would show solidarity with the masses of the world.

Rex Minor

PS I cannot wait to see the removal of the current secretary General and its entirte staff at the UNO.

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-34867 Tue, 28 Dec 2010 06:36:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-34867 @Mortal
Dawn is a Indian influenced newspaper, run by a kaafir, always sides with Indian perspective and never serves to goals of PA, traitor of Islam siding with (supposed)hindu nation. Umair, Belal, Matrixx, other Paki friends…am I correct??

Mortal, why u forget that Pakis did not accept aid from us even in times of disaster then how can they accept a trade treaty with us? These guys are impossible ready to kill themselves out of hatred and warped religious theories but not ready to come out of hatred and make friends.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-34864 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:50:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-34864 An excerpt on China-Pakistan relations from Dawn:

“The umbilical cord that chains Pakistan to China is a mutual suspicion of India. In guarding against real and imagined Indian designs, Pakistan even negotiated away part of Kashmir that it had earlier staked a claim to in the Sino-Pakistan Agreement of 1953. The China-Pakistan alliance made sense during the Cold War, China needed us to put a spanner in India’s ambitions whenever possible while we sought an ally that would, unlike the US, reliably deliver military aid whenever we were at war with our eastern enemy. This was an alliance based on convenience not ideology.

There is evidence that the closeness of the alliance may now be an anachronism. As long as we hew to our traditional anti-India stance, we will always need China to keep Indian ambitions in check. China, though, may not need as close a relationship with Pakistan for much longer. Bilateral trade between China and India is now close to $50 billion, up from below $150 million just 25 years ago. The former – and likely future – rivals are also cooperating on energy and civilian nuclear projects. In that situation, Pakistan is sure to lose out.

While we have significant trade activity with China ourselves, we also need to reconsider its value. Our manufacturing industry is unable to compete in terms of price and quality with China. Despite this, Chinese manufacturers are granted trade benefits, which is leading to the closure of similar small-scale industries in Pakistan. Add to that the massive trade deficit Pakistan has with China and it is reasonable to ask if we couldn’t find a more complementary trading partner – India perhaps, where we could export agricultural products while importing from them the same items we currently get from China”

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-34863 Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:48:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-34863 An excerpt on China-Pakistan relations:

“The umbilical cord that chains Pakistan to China is a mutual suspicion of India. In guarding against real and imagined Indian designs, Pakistan even negotiated away part of Kashmir that it had earlier staked a claim to in the Sino-Pakistan Agreement of 1953. The China-Pakistan alliance made sense during the Cold War, China needed us to put a spanner in India’s ambitions whenever possible while we sought an ally that would, unlike the US, reliably deliver military aid whenever we were at war with our eastern enemy. This was an alliance based on convenience not ideology.

There is evidence that the closeness of the alliance may now be an anachronism. As long as we hew to our traditional anti-India stance, we will always need China to keep Indian ambitions in check. China, though, may not need as close a relationship with Pakistan for much longer. Bilateral trade between China and India is now close to $50 billion, up from below $150 million just 25 years ago. The former – and likely future – rivals are also cooperating on energy and civilian nuclear projects. In that situation, Pakistan is sure to lose out.

While we have significant trade activity with China ourselves, we also need to reconsider its value. Our manufacturing industry is unable to compete in terms of price and quality with China. Despite this, Chinese manufacturers are granted trade benefits, which is leading to the closure of similar small-scale industries in Pakistan. Add to that the massive trade deficit Pakistan has with China and it is reasonable to ask if we couldn’t find a more complementary trading partner – India perhaps, where we could export agricultural products while importing from them the same items we currently get from China.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-34828 Fri, 24 Dec 2010 22:44:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-34828 Mortal1: “I wonder what will happen if China & India become really good friends. Pakistan might commit suicide”

Don’t worry. There are enough yoyos out there who will make sure that India and China never get close. Pakistan can rest easy.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-34812 Fri, 24 Dec 2010 02:22:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-34812 “And China is needed to keep that enemy alive at all costs.” Posted by KPSingh01

I wonder what will happen if China & India become really good friends. Pakistan might commit suicide :)

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-34804 Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:04:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-34804 Mortal1: “One of the things, I find ansolutely amusing, is the love of Pakistanis (who country’s creation & identity is based on religion) for the godless Chinese. Talk about hypocricy!”

There is a big difference between being a friend and being the enemy of the enemy. China falls in the latter category. Pakistan’s identity is based on the existence of a perpetual enemy. It is their life line. If you take that enemy away, they will cease to exist as a cohesive nation. And China is needed to keep that enemy alive at all costs.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-34796 Thu, 23 Dec 2010 02:09:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-34796 One of the things, I find ansolutely amusing, is the love of Pakistanis (who country’s creation & identity is based on religion) for the godless Chinese. Talk about hypocricy!

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By: buntyj http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2010/12/20/chinas-south-asia-tour-win-win-meets-zero-sum/comment-page-1/#comment-34784 Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:28:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6586#comment-34784 ps- a significant inference from china’s side deal on uighur jehadis with the pak army is that it suggests china’s confidence that no terror strike can emanate from pakistan without the blessings of the pak army, especially the isi; contrary to western reports of rogue elements

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