This guy is not alone. Most Pakistanis seem to be of the same mentality – deny, negate anything that does not agree with their vision. Facts or not, what they believe is only correct. The rest can be recited into deaf ears. This is the sign of a society getting walls closed around it. Ignorance will at some point blind them and they will be pushed into doing the wrong thing because of their own built in paranoia and could justify their actions based on it.

It’s quite clear that this character, deliberately goes out of his way to ignore the facts which refute his ill-informed preconceived notions & expose his “stomach based” nonsense. He simply does not have the moral courage & integrity to challenge his ignorance & bigotry.

People will always be at odds with each other. If it is not this issue, it will be that issue. Most national borders today were defined by colonial regimes of the past. They have created only more problems than any solutions. One thing to look at in the future would be to redefine these borders according to our times and circumstances. This means, a couple of generations later, they will have to be redefined again. It is not worth killing others for the sake of artificial boundaries. The course should be to make artificial borders less significant and allow people to migrate and move around at will based on their needs. Policing would only be required to track criminals and confine them. When great empires existed in the sub-continent and elsewhere in the past, people could move in and out of the borders without any issues. There were no passports, visas and all that kind of nonsense. Empires fought each other for territorial claims, but they left the people out of them. And such claims were exclusively for collecting taxes and getting soldiers for their armies.

In fact, inside a big country like India, there are states with borders. But they are not separate countries. People can move around anywhere based on their needs. They can apply to any college across the whole union and travel anywhere they like. They do not need passports or visas to go across the state borders. Criminals are still there and there is a police system to take care of them. So why not extend this further? Why do countries have to exist with rigidly drawn boundaries, soldiers to protect them, flags to salute, wage wars to defend them and divide people from the same family on either side? Look at North and South Korea? For whose benefit are these entities created? Kim Jong? or the people? Why are 500000 soldiers staring at each other at the Korean border that divides the same people?

You will realize that borders and nations were created for the benefit of a few – those who get to control others and resource movement. The Colonial empires fought each other everywhere to exploit wealth and resources. So they carved out borders to keep their competitors from stepping into their treasure troves. There is no need for those empires now. When resources are shared, artificially created borders lead to conflicts and loss of lives.

We all should work towards a modern world where borders are created merely for administrative purposes like states within a country. Immigration laws, passports, visas etc have been created by Western powers to keep others out of the wealth that they have managed to get ahead of others. The world is bursting at its seam with population that has been confined within artificially created borders for the benefit of a set of small minority groups. If such borders go away, militaries will disappear. Only local police and administrators will be needed. This is the eventual state the world needs to get to in the future. It will happen, much like the world becoming flat today through commercial needs. This planet has to become one nation before humans try their hands on other planets to populate.

In about 500 years, what I have said will become a necessity and reality. What we see today is only a temporary status of adjustment between humans in a rapidly changing environment.

Maybe a better Latin name for Rex Minor would be Mens Claustra (closed mind)…

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

If you have a problem with what I said, be man enough to address it directly to me rather than to Umair, like a gossipy old woman (which I think you actually are).
You commented that most Kashmiris from Pakistan moved to the UK after “India took over their land” & I refuted your lie with the fact that India had nothing to do with and that their migration was due to the building of Mangla dam. The origin of mirpuris was a side lesson for you because (factual) knowledge is something which you seem to be desperately in need of.

Now the zombies are out. We are apparently not talking about 1947 Kashmir, but 1847 Kashmir! Poor Kashmiris, the day for their freedom is not yet there. The Kashmiris who were compelled to save their lives and took refuge in other parts of the world, are no longer regarded Kashmiris by the zombies. Too bad for letting the construction of Mangla Dam and letting their old town go to sleep under water. Mirpur is after all called a Little Britain, and most of the Mirpuris hold dual nationalities, therefore technicaly speaking should’nt their territory be claimed back by the Brits.
not a bad solution, this could enable the kashmiris to get themselves rid of Indian military. This is a novel approach, not different from the novel approach of the Egyptians approach. We are facing turbulance times.

We just have to wait. 2011 is the year for the suppressed muslims to gain their independence and I am prepared to place my bet on this! There is a saying among Arabs that those who believe in God and have been told to pray five times a day, are also promised that GOD will listen to their prayers and their enemy would meet its destruction.

Rex Minor

How many times will you keep twisting facts to support your ill-informed arguments?

FYI, more than half of the Pakistani population in Britain is from Mirpur (in Pakistan occupied Kashmir). These so-called Kasmiris began emigrating from Pakistan after the completion of Mangla Dam in Mirpur in the late 1950s. The completion of the dam led to the destruction of hundreds of villages and stimulated a large wave of migration. Many of Mirpur’s inhabitants left for Britain & they were given legal and financial assistance by the British contractor which had built the dam. I say “so-called Kashmiris” because most ethnic Kashmiris do not consider Mirpuri people to be Kashmiris as Mirpur is a former Punjabi District with an ethnic Punjabi population that had no geographic or historic link to Kashmir until the treaty of Amritsar in 1846.

> perhaps one of these days,I may call on you. Australia is not foreign for me nor are the outskirts of sydney.

That’s good. Perhaps many of these misunderstandings in writing can be sorted out by talking face-to-face.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

Again, I don’t know if you deliberately fail to understand a simple point.

Is either Azad Kashmir or Gilgit-Baltistan an independent country? No.

Who occupies Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan? Pakistan.

If the people of Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan are to be allowed to decide their future, who stands in the way? Pakistan.

So, why do you focus your attention only on Indian-held Kashmir? Can you also direct a question at Pakistan?

Even-handedness and lack of double-standards are all that are being asked for.

Or is the distinction between “believers” and “non-believers” the crucial one?

> Sorry you have shown your biased part too often!

The biases of every poster here are open to all to see, my friend! Throwing stones from inside a glass house isn’t advisable.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

I have looked at the map in Shabir chaudry blog and also read his rhetoic: Can one take this guy seriously?

I was not aware that Kashmiris living in the so called Azad Kashmir or the Inian occupied terrotory could travel on some sort of a Kashmiri document. I was also not aware that Azad Kashmir leaders can just cross over to the other side of Kashmir without any docmets? Is he not aware that most of the so called Pakistanis living in the UK are of Kashmiri origin, the refugees from Kashmr who were granted Pakistani Passports at their requests enabling them to travel to the UK after the indian take over of their country? Do you consider this guy’s writing should be taken seiously?

Does he mean that the Kashmir divide does not apply to kashmiris?

Rex Minor