Comments on: On U.S.-Taliban talks, look at 2014 and work back http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36624 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:54:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36624 “Mortal1, what you have mentioned is the truth but the problem is that these people “can’t handle the truth” lol.” Posted by black_hawk

If you are reffering to, what I think you are, then NO, I was wrong to have said what I did & regret it. I allowed one unruely character to make me lose my composure & in the process, I offended the followers of a perfectly fine religion (many of whom are good & decent people). I condemn my own words & strongly discourage anyone from repeating them.

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By: black_hawk http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36522 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:56:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36522 Mortal1, what you have mentioned is the truth but the problem is that these people “can’t handle the truth” lol.

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36464 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:26:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36464 Shahidkhan123 said:

> Why is it that ALL the posters here that have repeatedly praised India as an utopian paradise don’t actually LIVE there! This dichotomy was not lost on Ganesh

I did explain why the dichotomy is not a contradiction. And nobody claimed India was a utopian paradise, merely that it has made enormous progress, economically and socially compared to just 20 years ago. Mundane but still remarkable, with the subtext being that Pakistan could also aspire to that sort of future rather than a nuclear-tipped one.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36462 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:10:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36462 > Our boorish, unpredictible machismo and magnetic charm can be understandably irresistible: Sania Mirza, Zeenat Aman, Reena Roy, Sushmita Sen…. you know the list.

Sometimes it doesn’t work that well: http://bit.ly/dUQvd0

Got to love the Internet :-).

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36434 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 04:47:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36434 Ganesh,

I’m cool (actually feel sorry for the guy now). Another misperception amongst Pakistanis, seems to be that a large proportion of Indians have migrated. In reality, less than 2% of Indians live abroad, compared to 2.5% of Japanese, 3% of Chinese & 4% of Pakistanis. Over the last decade, as India has progressed, emigration has slowed down considerably & even reverse migration has been taking place. I know that many of my acquaintainces in India, have passed on the opportunity to move to western countries, in the last 5-10 yrs.

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36427 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 02:16:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36427 Mortal,

He’s pushing your buttons. Try not to get provoked.

(My day job involves dealing with difficult people and negotiating to get things done, so I’ve developed a lot more patience. Plus I’ve also learnt to see things from the other person’s point of view, so I wouldn’t kid myself that I’m always right in an argument. That also helps me be patient when someone says something I disagree with.)

Shahidkhan123 said:

>>> Tell me something. The ‘goody goodies’ are so much in abundance in the paradise that is India that you, bigot and ganesh choose to NOT live there?

Fair question. When I left India in 1995, it was for a materially better life. I also had a couple of brushes with corruption (especially with airport customs when arriving from overseas) that convinced me to stay overseas.

Since then, things have been materially improving in India as well. My parents had just got a phone (land line) in 1995, and their washing machine was also just a couple of years old. Today, the plethora of gadgets and appliances available is unbelievable. Even “poor people” have mobiles, for example.

Today, I’d say what makes me continue to stay overseas are three things:

1. A more relaxed lifestyle. Australia believes in “work/life balance”, which means a strictly 9-5 job with no phone calls after hours or on weekends. I know that in India, your time is not your own, and the office feels free to intrude on your personal space at any time.

2. More respect for human beings as human beings. Contrary to the reports of racist attacks on Indians in Australia, people are actually treated with a great deal of dignity here. I realise this when I visit India and say “thank you” to the waiter or doorman, and people look at me strangely and call me an NRI.

3. More respect for individual freedom and independent thought. I can speak my mind at work or in public. I can challenge my boss’s ideas in an open meeting without repercussions. I will in fact be complimented for my contributions. I have written letters to MPs and even the Prime Minister objecting to policies, and I have received prompt and detailed letters in reply. I don’t have to fear any threat for speaking my mind even on controversial topics. India is still not there in these respects. It’s largely free, but not like in the West. There is also still a tendency for people to make other people’s business their business, such as when Richard Gere kissed Shilpa Shetty and it caused so much offense to some people. I think they need to grow up.

This is not to say that India has not progressed socially. I know that people are more aware of their rights, downtrodden people are more empowered, the Right-to-Information Act has improved transparency and reduced corruption, and so many other things.

So KP is right that India has progressed a lot, not just materially but also in many social aspects, but I’m also happy where I am. No contradiction, really.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36425 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 01:53:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36425 @shahidkhan123
“i understand this is your position but why the redundancy?”

Because despite understanding our position we do not see any reduction in your hatred filled attitude towards India and its citizens.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36419 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 01:14:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36419 Retarded jihadi pig, (shahidkhan123 a.k.a mirza usman a.k.a tupak shakir a.k.a shiqaib bhutto a.k.a ???)

I realize that it must be really tough for you to cope with the reality of being a Pakistani in today’s world. Especially for a rabid India hater like you, it must be very frustrating to see India progress, while your failed, rogue & terrorist state is being systematically flushed down the toilet. My sympathies!

I note that since you are not able to copy-paste your nonsensical spam anymore, you are having trouble putting together sentences & are hence, resorting to your same old dim-witted jokes & personal attacks. tsk tsk, Some more sympathies!

Blown any planes or buildings, lately?

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36417 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 01:10:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36417 @Ganesh: “So we may have to wait till 2020″

2020 is not that bad at all (I had a longer time frame in mind). I hope we can all see those criminals get the retribution, they deserve and avoid future injustices.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/02/19/on-u-s-taliban-talks-look-at-2014-and-work-back/comment-page-4/#comment-36408 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:20:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6916#comment-36408 Shahidkhan123: “The fact that your father papa singh and his father grandpa singh all said the same thing to then baby singh (kp) is humorous. i understand this is your position but why the redundancy?”

Pappa Singh, Grandpa Singh, baby Singh and all other Singhs are for a progressive, secular society. We are seeing the benefits of it. Twenty odd years ago, things looked very different. India had not been exposed to the goodies of economic liberalization, free enterprise, competition, free media etc. Over the two decades, things have begun to set in and gain momentum that shows in the results. And people have begun to realize that one united nation with multiple groups is a great boon. All we have to do is take the progress to the next level and all petty issues will not arise. People are beginning to see what they get to lose if they isolate themselves, run agitations, fight with everyone and drain everything. Life is busy and people want to live well. This kind of progress will slowly eliminate all social issues like caste prejudice, economic disparity, gender discrimination, illiteracy, backwardness etc. There is a clear demonstration to us Indians on how our recent choices will take us to a better future. No one is going to give that pursuit.

In the case of Pakistan, the people may be as enterprising and full of potential as others. But people have lost their importance. All that is left is a military with no specific goal excepting to cling to power, a feudal system where rich landlords have one foot in London and another in Pakistan, Blinding fundamentalism, kidnappings, murder, minority cleansing, floods, economy in utter shambles, Mullahs, Madrasas, terrorist organizations masquerading as charity organizations, war on the Western border, suicide attacks and what not. Coming out this is going to be very difficult. On top of that, your country is tilting against the USA which has been a major benefactor to your economic survival and international stature. Just building nukes all the way to the end of the sky will lead to the nuke tower collapsing and falling on your own heads. Without any realization of any of these issues, you and your “brothers” are busy trying to nit pick on India in retaliation.

Pointing these issues to you is important because one cannot help being cautious when his neighbor’s house is beginning to burn. And we are telling you to stop the party and start putting that fire down. Instead you are pointing at the stove in our kitchen and saying there is fire in our house too. You should realize how stupid you have become.

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