Comments on: U.S.-Pakistan relations better than they look http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36805 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:05:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36805 We must always diffrentiate between the relation of the American Govt. with foreign Govts and of the American people with the peoples of the world.
It is about time that the American people realise that most Govts in the muslim countries do not represent the expressions of its people, therefore, it is delusion for any american citizen to imagine that the people of the world have love for the footprints of the American military.

Rex Minor

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By: Blackorpheus http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36726 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:29:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36726 I don’t believe it. Pakistan is and has been politically unstable, with a putsch possible virtually at any time. The US is murdering civilians in Western Pakistan in its endless tracking of the Taliban. The US has too much at stake with India to “tilt” (Kissinger’s word) too decisively toward Pakistan. Important factions in Pakistan stand in solidarity with Maghreb and Middle-eastern countries who, with reason, distrust US motives.

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By: punjabiyaar http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36548 Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:11:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36548 Shahid

“A kashmiri told me about some hindu philosophy they occupy Kashmir. It is called chukka niti or something… It has these principles below and it really does remind one of IoK.” Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

Where the hell you get this load of bull crap, I hope its not in Pakistani text book of 5th class.

Are you able to sleep well at night or you see Hindus coming and killing you in your dreams.

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By: black_hawk http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36521 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:52:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36521 i respectfully disagree with the author: US-Pakistan relations are actually worse than they look.

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36512 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:51:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36512 I vote for a new name for this post…..

“Kashmir, Kashmir, Kashmir, Kashmir and Kashmir repeated for the next 60 years.”

So how relevant is it to the topic??

I am sure US _ Pakistan relations will improve even more if representatives from both sides read this blog :)

In a matter of a few weeks this blog has gone from being half way intelligent to comedy for me.

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By: sdub http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36509 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 09:42:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36509 I was so impressed by the quality of the posts here ( across the border) that I am remain a regular reader here for almost last one year and surely gained a lot . However I am really sad to see the level of discussions and language now.
I don’t understand why we Indian have to prove ourselves repeatedly across the forums that we are a democracy and that too to Pakistan!!
I really would like to ensure to my all dear friends across the border about the status of the majority of Muslims in India with very few examples
1) Mr. APJ Abdul Kalam had handled assignments related to the security and intelligence before becoming the President of the country . Just think, security of the India was in the hand of a MUSLIM.
2) When I failed to join Indian Air Force (my childhood dream) It never come across my mind that the main examiner was a MUSLIM. Just think the person deciding the composition of IAF is a MUSLIM
3) There was a special quota in my engineering college for Kashmiri students and many of them were muslims . Just think Kashmiri muslims not only throw stones on Indian army but they study and do jobs in thousands across India.
4) Now often repeated example of Khans in Bollywood. Doesn’t it also show their acceptance by majority HINDU in India . No prejudice because they are MUSLIM
5) BJP not able to rule India by playing HINDU card and Mr. Bal Thackery do not exist politically now.

I would like to add few lines while diverting a little from the topic. Being a son of defense person I have seen the life and plight of people of Kashmir from very close quarters and was pleasantly surprised to see their quality of life which more than 60% Indian can’t dream of .
Best regards
Sanish

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36498 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 03:36:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36498 Ganesh,

Shahid Khan’s diarrhea here basically spills out everything that is projected in the Pakistani psyche:

These guys can switch sides and change their colors at an instant. This the way they have survived for centuries. This guy lists a bunch of raids by the Afghan war lords of the past, without much realization that the victims of those raids were his own ancestors who were not Muslims. But he has taken pride of what has been done to his ancestors.

Then he slowly unravels his inner passion – Kashmir obsession. It is all right if Pakistan demands self determination or whatever for Kashmiri Muslims. But it is not all right for Balochis to demand the same. Kashmir is only considered a bilateral issue between Pakistan and India and the world does not care beyond that. But these guys assume that the world is demanding from India to give up Kashmir. But China’s invasion of Tibet or crushing of Uighurs is all right. That is because they are an enemy of their enemy. So if China violates every norm, they will not condemn any of it. And all Indians are Hindus in their eyes. Everything is looked at from a religious standpoint. Even their nuclear bomb is called Islamic bomb. It is all right for them to stage militant attacks inside India (like the Mumbai attacks). But they do not hesitate to build up stories of RAW running the TTP mission from its zillion consulates in Afghanistan. These guys have nothing. But they demand all the time. And when we counter them with valid references, we become haters of Pakistan.
This cycle keeps on repeating. It is not only in this forum. This war of words continues in other forums as well. I do not know how far these people can live off macho muscle flexing. They are close to eating grass. But macho has not diminished. There is no realization that they are on the path towards self destruction. It is sad to see their minds completely warped and wasted away with wrong perceptions and contemptuous attitude.

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36497 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 03:16:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36497 You notice that your quotes about the Hindu right wing parties are from Hindus themselves. Would this happen if “Hindu India” was a united whole? Yes, there is a hardcore right wing in India, and no one denies that. But your constant attempts to conflate this right wing with all Hindus and the Indian state is dishonest. Once again I ask, if Hindus were such a monolithic bloc and subscribed to the right wing agenda, wouldn’t the BJP be in power in perpetuity?

Why ignore the civil rights people, NGOs, lawyers, journalists and others who worked to expose the truth behind the Gujarat riots? Most of them were Hindu. Dent your theories much?

Perhaps India is more complex, nuanced, multi-faceted and yes, secular than you would like it to be for your purposes?

A bit of balance and honesty would be respected.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36496 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 03:05:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36496 > Ganesh, meri jaan, read my post. those words are written by kashmiris. I am trying to show you kashmiris don’t love indians as you claim. I am not claiming I am kashmiri.

Well, it wasn’t clear that the last paragraph that began with “I know what you guys are thinking but take a breather and listen to me” was also part of the quotes.

If the last bit was also a set of quotes, then I misunderstood and I apologise for that.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/03/03/u-s-pakistan-relations-better-than-they-look/comment-page-1/#comment-36495 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 02:58:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=6933#comment-36495 Shahidkhan123 said:

> We pakistanis are okay with an independent kashmir.

Butter wouldn’t melt in your mouth, would it?

And I see it’s “We Pakistanis” at the beginning of the same post that ends with “us Kashmiris”. Give us a break.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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