Guest contribution-Will Pakistan go the Middle East way?

By Guest Contributor
April 20, 2011

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(The following is a guest contribution. Reuters is not responsible for the content and the views expressed are the author’s alone. The writer is Pakistan’s High Commissioner to the UK)

WILL PAKISTAN GO THE MIDDLE EAST WAY?

By Wajid Shamsul Hasan

Some of our analysts are drawing a parallel between the ongoing wave for democracy across the Middle East and hoping that Pakistan might follow suit. In fact they are talking of an impending revolution in Pakistan as well.

In doing so, these doomsayers conveniently ignore differences between the political culture of Pakistan and the Middle East. They forget about the long struggle waged by our political forces against military dictators for decades which was missing in the Middle East. Similarly, the unprecedented role of the media and civil society in helping shape political life in Pakistan has not been taken into account.

Without being judgmental in drawing comparisons, we can safely say that today’s Pakistan is way ahead in political development than say during the past one decade or even the political culture which we followed during the nineties.

First, there is a visibly steeled resolve amongst the major political parties to keep the armed forces away from politics. This is why, despite noisy opposition, these parties have been resolving their disputes through dialogue and consensus with the objective of consolidating national reconciliation. The unanimous adoptions of the 18th and 19th Amendments to the constitution, and the NFC (National Finance Commission) Awards are examples of this maturity.  This phenomenon was missing in the nineties.

Second, there is a consensus to tackle the scourge of terrorism and extremism with an iron hand. This unanimity was missing during General Musharraf’s time.

Third, all political parties agree that the rising cost of living, growing unemployment and law and order are problems which should be tackled by the government on a top priority basis. At the same time the major political parties also agree that priorities set by the government are correct and that it will take time to address the socio-economic problems. No magic wand can do away with the problems of monstrous proportions inherited from the past decade of misrule and economic mismanagement. However, through collective wisdom, primarily through the parliament, all major issues could be resolved to the satisfaction of the people.

Fourth, the government’s external policies enjoy broader consensus whether it concerns relations with neighbours or with big powers. This consensus was missing during the dictatorial regimes of General Zia and General Musharraf although both dictators became darlings of the West due to the Afghanistan crisis. While these dictators sought external allies to keep themselves alive politically, democratically elected governments do not need external crutches to acquire legitimacy.

Patience should be the name of the game if political stability is to be achieved across the board. In politics stability comes through institutions. Unfortunately, during the six decades of our independent existence there have been so many extra-constitutional interventions – Praetorian-instigated and backed by the civil and judicial bureaucracy – that the democratic and liberal sense of direction chosen for us by our founding fathers was waylaid.

What is regrettable is that despite there being extra-constitutional odds against them, our political parties have been most of the time at daggers drawn. Many among them have been in cahoots with Praetorian powers and settled for a rent-a-politician role in order to sustain their existence as a second fiddle in national affairs. They lacked wisdom to bring about stability in the country and play their rightful role in national life. Since our political institutions are still fragile and political workers are learning the ropes we easily get swayed by half-baked analyses, especially on the electronic media.

Those who talk about revolution are either naïve about the term or aim to mesmerise their audiences. We all know that revolutions in the 20th Century failed because of lack of support from the masses. Whether theocratic or secular, such revolutions tend to muzzle dissent and freedom of choice. And the brains behind such revolutions became the first victims of it. This is what we witnessed in the French revolution, and in the former Soviet Union.

What we need is evolution which may be slow but provides stability to the political system and inculcates a sense of belonging in the wider sections of the society. Fortunately, Pakistani society is blessed with all those ingredients which are necessary for a durable evolutionary process. We have an independent judiciary, a ferociously free media and a vibrant civil society – all kept together by a sovereign Parliament. Our political parties are gaining maturity with a view to sustaining the present political order for stability and progress in the country. So let us build on the evolutionary spirit and make Pakistan a stable, moderate and progressive country.

Comments

Sounds good.

> Second, there is a consensus to tackle the scourge of terrorism and extremism with an iron hand.

The jury is out on that. Let’s check back on progress in a few months. The important point is that there are no good terrorists and bad terrorists. Does the Pakistani establishment understand that now, or is there still a fond hope of controlling non-state actors against perceived enemies?

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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There are some factual errors and logical fallacies in this fluffy piece.

Pak lawyers who are supposed to uphold the law, celebrate murder of a public figure. Paks like to exploit bad things in pluralistic societies, but lawyers advocating murder and celebrating it cannot be called “evolution”.

Also, Paks are opposed to terrorism inside Pakistan but are very much in favor of terrorism in neighboring countries and elsewhere. The civilians are in cahoots with PA/ISI in this strategy. Posing to fight terrorism, while simultaneously sponsoring it and milking aid money is the business strategy.

Indians have been saying these things for so long, yankees wouldn’t listen. After spilling blood thousands of Americans, and wasting bilions of dollars, they have discovered the true nature of pakistani aggression.

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Forget about whether ordinary Pak civilians support terrorism. It is useful here to review here the positions of Mr.Wajid Shamsul Hasan himself:

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2 009/01/indias_mumbai_eviden.php

India’s Mumbai evidence ‘could be fabricated,’ says Pakistani diplomat
By Bill Roggio
January 30, 2009

Pakistan’s high commissioner to Britain said the November 2008 terror assault in Mumbai, India, was planned outside of his country and said India may have “fabricated” the dossier of evidence presented earlier this month.

“Pakistani territory was not used so far as the investigators have made their conclusions,” High Commissionaer Wajid Shamsul Hasan told NDTV. “It could have been some other place.”

When asked about the validity of the Indian dossier of evidence, Hasan suggested India may have manufactured the information. The Indian dossier of evidence contained proof of calls made between the Mumbai terrorists and their handlers inside Pakistan as the attacks were ongoing, including transcripts of the handlers ordering the terrorists to murder the civilians then cheering over the phone.

Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2 009/01/indias_mumbai_eviden.php#ixzz1KA8 YsDri

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Ganesh: “The important point is that there are no good terrorists and bad terrorists.”

Why point at Pakistan alone? Its sponsor, the US does the same. When they say “terrorists” they do not have a global meaning. Those who are against them are terrorists and those who do not affect them are irrelevant or can be called as freedom fighters. Imagine in a war against drugs, a country chooses to chase only those who grow marijuana and ignore those who make drugs out of opium or a different substance. So long as there is a selective policy, both countries are going to be chasing each other’s tail. Pakistan has invested heavily into Jihadi infrastructure. Most of them are aligned with Pak military’s goals. Some of those are against the US and the US wants Pak military to help destroy them. Pak military is worried because such an operation will turn the others against them. It only wants to focus on those which are against its interests and the US does not care about those groups because they are irrelevant to them. The two should sit together and list all the different groups and discuss about which groups are common enemies to both. I don’t think they will find one.

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Pakistan’s democracy, flawed and noisy as it maybe still is delivering. Better than the middle east dictators clinging to power for decades and denying civil liberties to their people. On February 2013, roughly two years from now, history will be made, first time in the history of Pakistan a civilian government will complete its tenure, hold fair elections and carry out peaceful transition of power. Positive side is that the Armed Forces have rather stood by the political and democratic forces this time around, President Zardari could never have remained in office without approval of Gen. Tariq Majid, now retired chairman JCSC. It is upto the democratic forces in Pakistan to prove themselves and mature. The Army cannot be the babysitter, the civilians have to take charge and ownership of strategic challenges facing Pakistan.

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The good thing is Americans are being more explicit and vocal now. But indulging in hair splitting and making distinctions between Haqqani terrorists and LeT and other PA/ISI trained terrorists is futile.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news  /politics/nation/us-accuses-isi-of-havi ng-ties-with-terrorists/articleshow/8062 162.cms

23 Apr, 2011, 02.22AM IST,ET Bureau
US accuses ISI of having ties with terrorists

NEW DELHI: In a clear indication of the Obama administration’s scepticism about Pakistan’s anti-terror efforts, the highest ranking officer in the United States armed forces has accused Islamabad’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency of having ties with terrorists.

The US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman, Admiral Mike Mullen, told a Pakistan TV channel that ” ISI has a long standing relationship with the Haqqani network”. He said he was going to raise this issue with Pakistan Army chief General Ashfaq Kayani and other leaders.

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If at all any revolution is going to take place in Pakistan, it might be against the US, like it happened in Iran. Finally the US has reached a point where a spade has to be called a spade. I am sure they knew what the truth was all along. They now must understand what India has been dealing with. If I were an American in Pakistan, I will get the hell out. It is only a matter of time before brothers launch against Americans and British. The army might be left in a quandary wondering whom to support.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

Posted by netizen | Report as abusive
 

There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

Posted by netizen | Report as abusive
 

There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

Posted by netizen | Report as abusive
 

There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

Posted by netizen | Report as abusive
 

There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.
Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect
(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.
(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.
This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.
Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA  anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …
Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.
Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect
(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.
(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, being spit upon, kicked and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.
This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.
Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA  anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …
Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, kicked around and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

Posted by netizen | Report as abusive
 

There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, kicked around and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, kicked around and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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There are some crucial differences between Iran and Pakistan.

Iranians have TWO things that Paks don’t have:
(1)Oil and (2)Self-respect

(1) Oil- There is no viable financial plan for Pakistan. The bill is still footed by the Americans/West. Paks don’t have the educational, human development to make money in the global knowledge economy either.

(2) Self-respect- Iranians use hotile language against Israel, still their existence is not about being anti-Israel alone. Paks are willing to get into rags, kicked around and humiliated as long as they are able to give some trouble to India.

This second aspect is important because completely antagonizing USA has a serious down side to Paks in their obsessive anti-India hostility.

Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon. Indians also share this folly prtending we are superpowers. America has land, natural resources, educational infrastructures that China and India can only dream about …forever.

Because of these limitations Paks haven’t launched anti-American revolution. Otherwise it would have happened a while ago.

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Netizen:
“Due to their delusional thinking, Paks have started talking as if America is down and out and China is going to be masters of the world. American power may weaken, but China is in no place to match USA anytime soon.”

-Its not what Paks think, no nation can sustain expensive wars for decades, US maybe a strong nation, but the limits have been tested with a 10 year war and the one in Iraq? no nation can sustain such wars for ever, there are certainly limitations involved. You are delusional, rather, if you think US can sustain these wars for ever.

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Umairpk wrote
“go lick the balls of Iranians,it will give you more satisfaction.”

Got on your nerves Umair LOL :-)

I think you can do better than that, but on the topic of licking balls, you pakis make a living just by doing that. Over the years all you have been doing is licking a variety of balls- Saudi, American (mostly) and Chinese :-)

Every one knows about your lack of self-respect.

I think you misunderstood what I said about paks switching masters. Afer being slaves to Americans for 63 years, now you want to switch to Chinese masters. I do not deny weakening of America, just your delusional part refers to thinking Chinese masters will replace American masters and will help your delusional agenda.

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Umair,
I thought you will like this news item. You don’t know how much amusement this causes to Indians. We are so full of hate, we have been saying these for decades :-)

Yankees are slow and are reinventing the wheel.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr  /25/guantanamo-files-isi-inter-services -intelligence

Guantánamo Bay files: Pakistan’s ISI spy service listed as terrorist groupAnyone linked to Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate should be treated like al-Qaida or Taliban, interrogators told

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ISI and its mentor CIA are rogue criminal organizations masquerading as government agencies. Both need to have their activities curtailed to espionage only. CIA is waging clandestine wars. And ISI is waging proxy wars. Espionage agencies should not be conducting such activities. If they declare ISI as a terrorist organization, they should also call the CIA the same.

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Here is a very nice article that describes the US-Pakistan tug of war vividly:

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/art icle1770654.ece?homepage=true

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KPSingh
Thanks for providing the liked article. I more or less agree with the author.
Reading between the lines, the Americans would like to use India to put pressure on Pakistan but Pakistan has offered India economic access in return for supporting a peace settlement in Afghanistan. This should become obvious by fall.

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