Comments on: Questions for the Pakistan liveblog http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38116 Wed, 11 May 2011 06:19:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38116 007XXX,

Just a small correction, it is not my theory nor thesis. I thought it was bizarre to start with as I have mentioned. At the same time was curious to see what others thought.

Appreciate your giving an opinion.

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38115 Wed, 11 May 2011 06:16:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38115 Keithz,

I more or less agree with you on everything. Yet it was an intriguing thought. My main opposition to the idea was that if they considered him such a gravy train why would they jeopardise it by something outlandish and expect the same result?

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By: kEiThZ http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38104 Tue, 10 May 2011 22:17:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38104 Dara,

Conspiracy theories abound. I doubt this one is true. Certainly, if they were going to give him up, they wouldn’t have hosted him in a garrison town, near the capital.

And the embarrasment for Pakistan, on him being found where he was, certainly outweighs any credity they get “for giving him up”.

Moreover, all the subsequent statements from US policymakers seeking to apply pressure on Pakistan, indeed, show that this was no US-Pak conspiracy.

And if it was, why take 3 days to issue contradictory statements. If you’ve planned it all, surely your lies must be better.

Conspiracy nutters like to see a bogeyman behind every curtain. In reality, the truth is often quite accurate…and stranger than fiction.

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By: hopeisme http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38101 Tue, 10 May 2011 19:21:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38101 Pakistan cannot afford to be caught sleeping with another Taliban or al Qaeda figurehead, especially in a non-tribal area. There is a history of having arrested taliban, alQaeda topguns from Karachi, Faislabad, Rawalpindi etc. There sure are more such skeletons ‘hiding’ in non-tribal areas. What will be Pakistan’s/ISI’s next move if it has to avoid Abottabad-like embarassment again ?

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38096 Tue, 10 May 2011 18:39:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38096 My question: Is Pakistan, a rogue state, a failed state or a combination of both? I’d go with the combo here!

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By: 007XXX http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38095 Tue, 10 May 2011 16:54:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38095 @DaraIndia

A small but very significant correction in your theory above:
*everybody would be happy [EXCEPT INDIA].

If my point 2 and your thesis is true and US is rogue as much as Pakistan then Indians will have to have borders of stainless steel.

@Myra
How about an article on possibility that Pakistan establishment knew all about OBL operation?

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38092 Tue, 10 May 2011 16:07:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38092 Bozarre as it may be at first reading, there is a theory doing the rounds that actually Pakistan wasted OBL as he had served his purpose. Without getting the limelight on them it made sense for them to finger OBL’s whereabouts killing many birds with but one stone.

Earning points with the US, maintaining the flow of badly needed aid to survive a precarious economic situation and gain a free upper hand in Afghanistan. With OBL gone, the US could declare ‘mission accomplished’ – remember they went into Afghanistan to get Osama, not the Taliban. Having accomplished that the US would feel free to leave with a clear conscience, they would be obliged to Pakistan and more or less give it a free hand in subsequent events in Afghanistan and thereby help achieve its aim of strategic depth or whatever they termed it and everybody would be happy.

The only pre-condition being that Pakistan could not afford, because of internal pressures, to be seen to be openly siding with the US in this operation. So is all this we are seeing now a well planned charade? If not why not? Personally I disagree with the hypothesis but it still is an intriguing one.

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By: 007XXX http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38087 Tue, 10 May 2011 14:02:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38087 All this episode clearly expose one of the two possibilities: 1. Pakistan’s security is EXTREMELY vulnerable and its sovereignty easily violable. 2. Pakistan has been playing a double game with EVERYONE and current action by US has been in full knowledge of Pakistan establishment and since Laden was no more useful to Pakistan so let go off him.

If first is true then such a nuclear armed state is a worry for ALL world given the weakness of both military and civilian government and its people being mad about a religion so much so that Bin Laden is their Hero. If second is true then Pakistan is a grave venomous threat to humanity with US being its master. For it has been US all the way which had supported military over civilian governments in all Muslim countries worldwide as far as it could. So that makes US and Pakistan as “axis of evil”.

All in all, India’s points stands vindicated that Pakistan is a rogue state. And a probable discovery that US is no less rogue.

Would love to know Myra’s views on this.

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By: netizen http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38084 Tue, 10 May 2011 13:57:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38084 Ok…I’ll also ask Ms.McDonald a few questions :-)

1) Paks say they don’t care for US aid money. Then why do they spend several thousand dollars to hire lobbyists in America and beg for aid money?

2)About “soverignty”. Does Pakistan violate the soverignty of other countries by hosting an assortment of global and local terrorists?

3) If Pakistan doesn’t respect the soverignty of other countries why should other countries respect Pakistan’s “soverignty”. (Thanks US of A!)

4)We hear from Paks that China is great friend of theirs. Why don’t we never hear from Chinese they have decided to send 3 billion dollars per year to Pakistan?

Your responses will be appreciated :-)

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2011/05/09/questions-for-the-pakistan-liveblog/comment-page-1/#comment-38080 Tue, 10 May 2011 13:47:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=7324#comment-38080 Was Pakistan complicit or incompetent in its response to the US action that eliminated OBL?

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