Comments on: Do you think Afghanistan hasn’t changed since 1842? http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/03/20/do-you-think-afghanistan-hasnt-changed-since-1842/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/03/20/do-you-think-afghanistan-hasnt-changed-since-1842/comment-page-1/#comment-40517 Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:26:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8544#comment-40517 One thing that proved advantageous to the Afghan tribes is the harsh terrain with steep mountains and valleys. It is extremely difficult to stage a ground based war in such a terrain. Similarly in an extremely dense jungle territory it is difficult to stage combat. The US encountered it in Vietnam. In Afghanistan, a different type of harsh terrain made it difficult for them to chase and contain the enemies. There is nothing great about Pashtuns or anyone else as some three eyed, horn headed monsters who cannot be defeated. They were run over by the Mughals and ruled over three centuries before the British came into the picture. I would not equate the Taliban with the traditional Pashtuns. Though Taliban is made up of Pashtuns, these groups were made up mostly of refugees who grew up in the refugee camps in Pakistan. They are highly radicalized as the US, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan’s ISI pumped money into the Madrasas to fuel Islamic radicalism. Taliban mostly lack the generosity and trustworthiness of the normal Pashtuns. Taliban is more Pakistanized. The US did not lose to Afghans. Afghans have welcomed the US. It lost to Pakistan which deceived them by earning their trust and then repeatedly bilked them until they ran out of options. Taliban and its supporters are claiming victory without offering a fight. They ran away from Afghanistan and hid themselves under the pants of the ISI until patience ran out for the Americans. I would not call it a victory for some valient and brave people. These are cowards to the core who write history made up of lies and celebrate defeats as victories. The less said about them, the better.

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By: True.North. http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/03/20/do-you-think-afghanistan-hasnt-changed-since-1842/comment-page-1/#comment-40486 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 03:39:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8544#comment-40486 Excellent article Myra. It’s unfortunate how often context is lost when studying these matters. And more unfortunate how often simple conceptions of the region and its inhabitants drive very poor policy.

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By: 12356 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/03/20/do-you-think-afghanistan-hasnt-changed-since-1842/comment-page-1/#comment-40485 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:52:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8544#comment-40485 “….operating on a system of values vastly different than ours.”… ??? Luv to know what ‘values’ though though possess (if any)

Anup

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/03/20/do-you-think-afghanistan-hasnt-changed-since-1842/comment-page-1/#comment-40484 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:20:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8544#comment-40484 Afghanistan is a Pashtun territory, others such as Tajiks, uzbeks and Hazara are also the citiens of current Afghanistan territory. The Pashtuns domain spreads across the so called durand line into today’s Pakhtunkhwa as well as Baluchistan. They are estimated to be over 50 million people, the largest tribesmen in the world. They are cauasians, a white race and are allergic to any influence of foreigners. It matters not what the foreigners throughout history had been beavering their plans about them; for the Afghans any one not speaking the Pashto language is a foreigner, including those from India and Pakistan, and is a foreigner in individual tribes if he is not conversant with the spoken dialect of the tribe.
Apart from their family and tribal codes they submit to no one; they elect and nominate the man who sits in Kabul and are not subject to any mlitary conscripton, whereas non Pashtuns are. Hence their army is more of a symbolic nature rather than a military force.

RexMinor

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By: HaqsMusings http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/03/20/do-you-think-afghanistan-hasnt-changed-since-1842/comment-page-1/#comment-40483 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 05:46:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8544#comment-40483 Although no foreign power has been able to gain and keep control of Afghanistan for any significant length of time, it has not stopped them from trying to increase their influence via proxies. During the British Raj in India, for example, both Britain and Russia fiercely competed for influence in the country. The last several decades have seen the India-Pakistan rivalries played out in the resource-rich landlocked nation. Others, including China, have an interest in Afghanistan, as demonstrated by the Chinese contract for a multi-billion dollar Aynak copper mining project.

http://www.riazhaq.com/2009/12/facts-and -myths-in-afghanistan-debate.html

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/03/20/do-you-think-afghanistan-hasnt-changed-since-1842/comment-page-1/#comment-40482 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:34:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8544#comment-40482 @Myra
It is a nice story that you have written,with the exception to outline how the Afghans are organised and live their life. This is their secret which made them invincible and have kept their enemies at arms legnth. The Brits never managed to overpower them or exercise any control over them, quite the contrary, it was them who controlled the Brits., allowed them to build roads through their territory against a fixed rental fee, which incidently is paid todate, and let them set up a number of cantonments, to house their military. as a land locked country this was necessary, and likewis they allowed the Russians to construct roads in the northern part so that they were linked to cenral Asian countries and Iran.

Rex Minor

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