Comments on: India, Pakistan detente: don’t trust, verify every step http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/ Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: True.North. http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-41463 Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:31:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-41463 Calling somebody an Islamofascist is racist? Really? Point me to the part of German law that specifically labels that as racism.

I don’t buy that you’re caucasian at all. Nobody here does.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-41354 Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:19:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-41354 @True Nort
In the west your remarks amount to racism! The Reuters Blog prohibit it and in Germany you will have to sit in Prison for this remark! Infidel is not an abuse nor contain any malice, but simply the english translation for a non believer. Knowledge is a virtue and if you have not the knowledge of the real time, then stop critising the events which are perceived by others and just ignore them and move on. Ask Joe klein or your fellow countryman Zakari, they somehow get the clue and even write a column or two in Times and could answer your interrogatory rhetoric. Just improve your hindsight! But if you cannot, do not worry about it, the leader of the USA did not have it either, otherwise he would not have fired 4 star General Macchrystal and instead sent home General Patros, and avoided the debacle. Watch the report of CNN, the self proclaimed news leader, which show you the Amerian merchandise rotting on pakistan highways. A tip for you as well, I am a caucasian and an anti-war. And regard those who wage war against civiliians fellow humans as lunatics.

Rex minor

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By: True.North. http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-41346 Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:35:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-41346 Calling you out for the Islamofascist that you are is not in violation of Reuters policy. No more so than you constantly referring to me as an “infidel” and “non-believer”. This despite not knowing my race (hint: I’m not white.), my ethnicity or my religious background. Being as ignorant as you are, you automatically draw conclusions simply because of where I’m from.

At the very minimum, you certainly are racist and a Pashtun supremacist who for some reason supports murder and mayhem. And maybe even genocide (given your comments about Indians).

The rest of what you say is utter tosh. You have zero evidence to back it up other than what the voices in your head tell you. Show us a single link with actual pictures of 100 000 stranded marines (there aren’t that many combat troops in the USMC to begin with…).

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-41239 Thu, 31 May 2012 12:20:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-41239 True North

If you cannot abide by the rules of Reuters, then choose for your kind a hole to unload your trash. You are a non-believer, an infidel in English, and therefore a skeptic by nature. The Talibans are in Pakistan and ISI nd Pakistan military is coming to terms with them. One usualy compromises with the crockodile when one lives in a River! It is upto India how their famous military stops them, once they have sorted out the mess and destabilisation within their ownterritory. They arecertainly going to take a lesser period than the Vietnamese.

And who are we, the Indian non believer whois now American, like Freed zakari, the Indian who is now regularly using the word ‘We’. These We’s went back to vietnam as well as traders and tourists.
The Vietnam 2 has already begun, all along the Pakistan highway the American equipment is lying scattered all over and the Americans have not got the mettle to rescue it nor the money to pay for it. Infact they are pursuading Paistan military to buy the scrap for their own use. They must make their apology as well as further deals with Pakistan Govt. transparent so that nincompup people of your sort can learn about how deep the yanks are now in after their despecable behaviour wih their Ally?
What Pakistan current political leaders are doing on the diplomatic front, it matters a little. Let Indians try to hide their lolypops and let the Yanks take their troops safely out of the valleys of death.

Let us await the wikileak whistle blower, before one makes a final judgement on the death of the person in Abbotabad. I am no a skeptic but not a blind believer either. he man who supposedly helped the CIA has been sent to prison for association with a terrorist organisation and this we should believe it?

Rex Minor

PS The reality is that the yanks have never in their history won a war on their own and the Pashtuns, now called Taliban Pashtuns have never been defeated in their history by a foreign force. Both of hem are keeping to their record.

Rex Minor

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By: True.North. http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-41233 Thu, 31 May 2012 01:59:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-41233 @Rex Minor

Keep your Islamofascist fantasies. They’ll never come to pass. The Taliban will destabilize and destroy Pakistan itself before they do any serious damage to India.

The Indians know that. It’s exactly why they won’t budge. Pakistan’s desperation is showing. Now that they can’t afford the conflict, they want to make a sort of temporary ceasefire. Why would the Indian government ever concede to that?

As for Vietnam 2…please bookmark this thread. We can come back 3 years from now and take a look at it. I’ll bet my next paycheque, there won’t be a “Vietnam 2″. A gradual draw down with the absolute worst case scenario being a domestic civil war between the Taliban and the old Northern Alliance. I fail to see how that’s a “Vietnam 2″ rather than a return to status quo ante.

Also, it must really grate you that the Americans actually accomplished their mission and killed Bin Laden. You never, ever seem to admit to that little tidbit in your constant effort to cast this mission as “Vietnam 2″. In the end, the US and NATO has absolutely achieved its objective in the region (smashing Al Qaeda). This business with the Taliban comes as a result of pointless mission creep. Giving it up is scarcely “Vietnam 2″. The only way this mission is a strategic failure is if Al Qaeda magically resurrects itself to the same threat level as it held pre-9/11. Not happening.

As for the supply routes, nobody needs the Pakistani routes anyway. NATO’s been running fine without them for months. The only value of the Pakistani routes is price. The Northern route and airlifting supplies is more expensive. Absolutely speaking. They are not required. The last few months have proved that. Arguably, though, the Pakistanis need those fees more than NATO needs those routes. So they try to play hard to get with their negotiations….all the while forgetting that those on the other side are losing interest day by day.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-41195 Mon, 28 May 2012 12:30:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-41195 Sanjeev,

A well articulated article which is based on common sense, mutual benefits and a course for detente. Dr Manmohan Singh is man of several ideas to go for peace with its neighbours, but his hindsight is not strong enough to pull out his military from Kashmir territory. His projects are good to take the heat out, but the undrlying factors for a nuclear confrontation is more real today than yesterday. Many clever ones have left India to save their skin, incase and left the country to the COMMON MAN, who according to one smart Alec needs a roti in his plate annd a roof over his head, the main needs of non believers. The believers know how to cater for their needs, by hook or crook as long as they show compassion and solidarity with the UMMah.
Once the Taliban forces rid themselves of the gringos, they are not going to return to their bunkers, but march straight towards Kashmir and pay a visit their kin. Let India then try to hide their Nukes if they can and utilise the American experience. The Americans are already stuck with theirs in Afghanistan and without Pakistan giving them access to the escape route, the world is going to watch Vietnam 2, and this should guarantee the reelection of the incumbent President.

Rex Minor

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By: kEiThZ http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-41128 Fri, 25 May 2012 20:49:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-41128 Ahhh Chotu Malik.

You are truly coming unhinged. The Chinese are going to dump nearly a trillion in US treasuries? Are you serious? The moment they sell the first few, the crash will start and they’ll devalue their own assets…by tens or even hundreds of billions. The Chinese buying US Treasuries has created an economic suicide pact between the two countries.

As for this rubbish about “capitalists non believers” and their supposed preference for “greed” over “compassion”, you should ask the common man on the street whether he’d rather have a thriving economy guaranteeing roti in his plate and a roof over his head or the “compassion” of “believers”.

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By: pakistan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-41047 Wed, 23 May 2012 20:21:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-41047 Trade, trade and trade is the slogan of the capitalists non believers, who prefer greed in place of compassion, are selfish and not social, show no love for the next one nor care for the havenots.

Rex Minor

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By: kEiThZ http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-41036 Wed, 23 May 2012 18:18:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-41036 “The difference here though is that unlike ties with China which have always seemed distant beyond the Himalayan border, India’s relationship with Pakistan has long been emotional, swinging from extreme hostility to exuberance and bonhomie between two long-lost brothers.”

No. The difference is that the Chinese value trade and economic stability over irredentism. Pakistanis have no such qualms.

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By: JustAnotherMan http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/04/28/india-pakistan-detente-dont-trust-verify-every-step/comment-page-1/#comment-40794 Fri, 11 May 2012 14:01:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/?p=8734#comment-40794 The only way the Kashmir dispute can be resolved is for India to have a powerful Muslim prime minister. This will fatally hurt the two-nation theory and ideological basis with which Pakistan seems to approach every bilateral issue. India has more muslims than Pakistan. They are empowered. They are free. They love their country. The Kashmiris have as many, perhaps more, brethren in India as they have in Pakistan. Why then, the Pakistani brothers think that their Indian counterparts cannot look after their Kashmiri brothers? The 1947 partition was unnecessary. It hasn’t divided the subcontinent on religious basis contrary to popular perception. Islam still is one of the mainstream Indian religions. Even though the general populations don’t seem to understand it, and possibly this will never happen, an undivided south asia that makes Kashmir, Punjab and Bengal whole again and provides defensible borders on all sides for the whole subcontinent, and brings back the lost brothers together is the ultimate resolution for all disputes. Wishful thinking, may be. But I don’t believe anyone can argue against the benefits such an integration will bring for all the people of subcontinent as well the world as a whole by taking away a nuclear flashpoint that concerns every human being on the planet.

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