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		<title>By: pakistan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/06/20/pakistan-is-not-egypt-and-it-hasnt-had-a-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-47155</link>
		<dc:creator>pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non sense, and ignorance pure! The vaccine is a poison itself and carries the risk to childs life without the polio infection. If the children are keot clean then there is a less risk of infection. Besides UNO has proven to be unreliable andperhaps have the intention to collect DNA of Pashtun children? We refused to vaccinate our child at Mexico city airport and were able to convince the Doctor that it is not necessary unless there is an all out epidemic.


Rex Minor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non sense, and ignorance pure! The vaccine is a poison itself and carries the risk to childs life without the polio infection. If the children are keot clean then there is a less risk of infection. Besides UNO has proven to be unreliable andperhaps have the intention to collect DNA of Pashtun children? We refused to vaccinate our child at Mexico city airport and were able to convince the Doctor that it is not necessary unless there is an all out epidemic.</p>
<p>Rex Minor</p>
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		<title>By: prasadgc</title>
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		<dc:creator>prasadgc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 04:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.North said:

&gt; You want to know the future of the country? Look at the education stats. Nothing tells you more about the long term destiny of a country than how it treats and raises its children. Primary participation in Pakistan should tell you all you need to know about where Pakistan will be in 15 years.

Don&#039;t forget the polio menace. The jihadists have begun to oppose polio vaccinations for children in the tribal areas. Within 5 years, the region could see regular polio epidemics that strike down a whole generation of innocent kids. It will ultimately deprive the jihadists of fresh foot-soldiers, and the islamist insurgency will probably end in the most pathetic way imaginable, with the innocents being the victims as always.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad</description>
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<p>> You want to know the future of the country? Look at the education stats. Nothing tells you more about the long term destiny of a country than how it treats and raises its children. Primary participation in Pakistan should tell you all you need to know about where Pakistan will be in 15 years.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the polio menace. The jihadists have begun to oppose polio vaccinations for children in the tribal areas. Within 5 years, the region could see regular polio epidemics that strike down a whole generation of innocent kids. It will ultimately deprive the jihadists of fresh foot-soldiers, and the islamist insurgency will probably end in the most pathetic way imaginable, with the innocents being the victims as always.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Ganesh Prasad</p>
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		<title>By: pakistan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myra,

You are just brilliant; all along moving with your fine intellect to feel the pulse of Pakistan Nation. Bhuttos and Zardari have all along been the pain in the Arsch of the country. Pakistani military groomed them, dethroned them and then groomed them but like a terrier Dog they do not let loose of the country. This time they got into the civilian presidency on account of a shabby deal brokered by the USA administration among Pakistan political ladership and the military converted civilian military dictator, keeping Judiciary and the country&#039;s interests at bay. Hence the Talibans inroads into the country, ready to intervene with full force in the whole of Pakistan. Given the situation Pakistan was faced with, there were not many alternatives. Either the civilian leadership deliver and protect its sovereignty,  prosecute the corrupt and criminal officials currently occupying the highest offices or once again a military take over. The judiciary intervened at the request of the military and civilian leadership and declared Gillani as the illegal occupant of the office after the indictment of &quot;contempt of court&quot;. The Chief Justice could have declared the desolution of the Parliament as well who had earlier refused to withdraw the immunity of Mr Gillani so as to allow Prosecution investigations.

Pakistan political leadershiphas been give a breathing space to sort out the mess they have created within and with their relatons with outsie world including that with the USA. A military intervention is unlikely to be a Deja vu of the past, the young army Turks are going to move with the Iron Fist and to finish the job which in previous coups was left unfinished.

Pakistan desperately needs a revolutionary civilian leadership so as to remove the footprints of the foreigners from Pakistan soil, since their presence is the guarantor of instability in the region.


Rex Minor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myra,</p>
<p>You are just brilliant; all along moving with your fine intellect to feel the pulse of Pakistan Nation. Bhuttos and Zardari have all along been the pain in the Arsch of the country. Pakistani military groomed them, dethroned them and then groomed them but like a terrier Dog they do not let loose of the country. This time they got into the civilian presidency on account of a shabby deal brokered by the USA administration among Pakistan political ladership and the military converted civilian military dictator, keeping Judiciary and the country&#8217;s interests at bay. Hence the Talibans inroads into the country, ready to intervene with full force in the whole of Pakistan. Given the situation Pakistan was faced with, there were not many alternatives. Either the civilian leadership deliver and protect its sovereignty,  prosecute the corrupt and criminal officials currently occupying the highest offices or once again a military take over. The judiciary intervened at the request of the military and civilian leadership and declared Gillani as the illegal occupant of the office after the indictment of &#8220;contempt of court&#8221;. The Chief Justice could have declared the desolution of the Parliament as well who had earlier refused to withdraw the immunity of Mr Gillani so as to allow Prosecution investigations.</p>
<p>Pakistan political leadershiphas been give a breathing space to sort out the mess they have created within and with their relatons with outsie world including that with the USA. A military intervention is unlikely to be a Deja vu of the past, the young army Turks are going to move with the Iron Fist and to finish the job which in previous coups was left unfinished.</p>
<p>Pakistan desperately needs a revolutionary civilian leadership so as to remove the footprints of the foreigners from Pakistan soil, since their presence is the guarantor of instability in the region.</p>
<p>Rex Minor</p>
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		<title>By: ZADAR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/06/20/pakistan-is-not-egypt-and-it-hasnt-had-a-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-42745</link>
		<dc:creator>ZADAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not approving!No courage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not approving!No courage?</p>
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		<title>By: True.North.</title>
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		<dc:creator>True.North.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umair.  This is the state of Pakistan:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/398185/the-real-enemy/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umair.  This is the state of Pakistan:</p>
<p><a href='http://tribune.com.pk/story/398185/the-real-enemy/'>http://tribune.com.pk/story/398185/the-r eal-enemy/</a></p>
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		<title>By: True.North.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/06/20/pakistan-is-not-egypt-and-it-hasnt-had-a-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-42720</link>
		<dc:creator>True.North.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 14:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@umairpk

It&#039;s funny that you think the Army supports the democratic process.  They don&#039;t.  You think they want to let the masses have free reign over their destiny?  That&#039;s cute.

@san-man

I once met Stephen Cohen.  He described Pakistan as a &quot;perpetually failing state&quot;.  Never Somalia.  But never far from becoming Somalia.  A better term than a &quot;successful failed state&quot; I suppose.

50 years ago, one might have looked at India askance.  Today, it&#039;s Pakistan.  You want to know the future of the country?  Look at the education stats.  Nothing tells you more about the long term destiny of a country than how it treats and raises its children.  Primary participation in Pakistan should tell you all you need to know about where Pakistan will be in 15 years.  

The instability we are seeing today is the tip of the iceberg.  You have a massive demographic wave coming, a solid quarter or more of whom are likely to be functionally illiterate.  Combine that with hate spewing mullahs, a mismanaged economy, a massive miltiary sector that sucks the wind out of the economy, and you start to get a picture of where this Titani is heading.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@umairpk</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that you think the Army supports the democratic process.  They don&#8217;t.  You think they want to let the masses have free reign over their destiny?  That&#8217;s cute.</p>
<p>@san-man</p>
<p>I once met Stephen Cohen.  He described Pakistan as a &#8220;perpetually failing state&#8221;.  Never Somalia.  But never far from becoming Somalia.  A better term than a &#8220;successful failed state&#8221; I suppose.</p>
<p>50 years ago, one might have looked at India askance.  Today, it&#8217;s Pakistan.  You want to know the future of the country?  Look at the education stats.  Nothing tells you more about the long term destiny of a country than how it treats and raises its children.  Primary participation in Pakistan should tell you all you need to know about where Pakistan will be in 15 years.  </p>
<p>The instability we are seeing today is the tip of the iceberg.  You have a massive demographic wave coming, a solid quarter or more of whom are likely to be functionally illiterate.  Combine that with hate spewing mullahs, a mismanaged economy, a massive miltiary sector that sucks the wind out of the economy, and you start to get a picture of where this Titani is heading&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ZADAR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/06/20/pakistan-is-not-egypt-and-it-hasnt-had-a-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-42676</link>
		<dc:creator>ZADAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote,
It has an increasingly poor record on human rights and protection of minorities.&quot; 

Well for someone like you who shamelessly defends atrocious use of drone attacks on defenseless women and kids these subjects should not be any of your concerns.

&quot;And comparing it to Egypt, which has only very recently tried to escape from authoritarian rule,  is to set Pakistan back at least 20 years – if indeed the comparison of two such different countries was ever valid&quot;

This one sentence alone is enough to convince me that you actually know very little about any of these country.These 2 countries resemble each other more than any other pair of countries in the world,and in more ways than you can ever imagine.

&quot;Whatever the outcome, compared to previous civilian administrations in Pakistan, the current government is facing the luxury of choice.&quot;

Well the bad news for you is this zardari led NRO tainted PPP government will not only be utterly crushed in next elections,but PPP is almost certainly never going to come back in power in centre again.
So dismal they have been on all fronts.
It will be death of the last remaining Pro-America slavish element in pakistani society.
This is the problem with you because apart from few random English columnist who have no following in general public You seem totally ignorant of ground realities here.
Whichever party will next come in power Whether it,s PMLN or PTI will have to adopt much more anti America stance for their survival,simply because such is there constituency.

And perhaps you will get your wish that why Pakistani army does not shoot down drones.It will be quite an embarrassment for Americans for sure.

Pakistan IS very much Egypt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote,<br />
It has an increasingly poor record on human rights and protection of minorities.&#8221; </p>
<p>Well for someone like you who shamelessly defends atrocious use of drone attacks on defenseless women and kids these subjects should not be any of your concerns.</p>
<p>&#8220;And comparing it to Egypt, which has only very recently tried to escape from authoritarian rule,  is to set Pakistan back at least 20 years – if indeed the comparison of two such different countries was ever valid&#8221;</p>
<p>This one sentence alone is enough to convince me that you actually know very little about any of these country.These 2 countries resemble each other more than any other pair of countries in the world,and in more ways than you can ever imagine.</p>
<p>&#8220;Whatever the outcome, compared to previous civilian administrations in Pakistan, the current government is facing the luxury of choice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well the bad news for you is this zardari led NRO tainted PPP government will not only be utterly crushed in next elections,but PPP is almost certainly never going to come back in power in centre again.<br />
So dismal they have been on all fronts.<br />
It will be death of the last remaining Pro-America slavish element in pakistani society.<br />
This is the problem with you because apart from few random English columnist who have no following in general public You seem totally ignorant of ground realities here.<br />
Whichever party will next come in power Whether it,s PMLN or PTI will have to adopt much more anti America stance for their survival,simply because such is there constituency.</p>
<p>And perhaps you will get your wish that why Pakistani army does not shoot down drones.It will be quite an embarrassment for Americans for sure.</p>
<p>Pakistan IS very much Egypt</p>
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		<title>By: Shers2000</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/06/20/pakistan-is-not-egypt-and-it-hasnt-had-a-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-42382</link>
		<dc:creator>Shers2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A ruling on the missing person case related to the army might clear the position of SC, weather SC is acting on the good intentions of ridding the country from corrupt leaders or acting on the behest of Army, bureaucracy or who ever. An independent judiciary doesnt mean its independent only when making ruling against polititians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A ruling on the missing person case related to the army might clear the position of SC, weather SC is acting on the good intentions of ridding the country from corrupt leaders or acting on the behest of Army, bureaucracy or who ever. An independent judiciary doesnt mean its independent only when making ruling against polititians.</p>
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		<title>By: Umairpk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2012/06/20/pakistan-is-not-egypt-and-it-hasnt-had-a-coup/comment-page-1/#comment-42251</link>
		<dc:creator>Umairpk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pakistani people look towards the judiciary as a ray of hope, rule of law and justice are the pillars of a peaceful, functioning and prospering society. If Pakistan has to succeed as a state it has to ensure justice for all. The devolution of power itself is a good thing, the Army also has to keep supporting the democratic process and interact more with civilian leaders. Only when all the stakeholders stick together and find solutions can Pakistan navigate through the mess it finds itself in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakistani people look towards the judiciary as a ray of hope, rule of law and justice are the pillars of a peaceful, functioning and prospering society. If Pakistan has to succeed as a state it has to ensure justice for all. The devolution of power itself is a good thing, the Army also has to keep supporting the democratic process and interact more with civilian leaders. Only when all the stakeholders stick together and find solutions can Pakistan navigate through the mess it finds itself in.</p>
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		<title>By: san-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>san-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly the army wants to continue ruling Pakistan from the shadows, even though it can&#039;t afford to take power overtly, since Pakistan is in a terminal slide to self-destruction. That&#039;s why even as the courts prosecute Gilani, the military uses its unlimited wiretapping powers and its minions to stir up charges against supreme court justices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly the army wants to continue ruling Pakistan from the shadows, even though it can&#8217;t afford to take power overtly, since Pakistan is in a terminal slide to self-destruction. That&#8217;s why even as the courts prosecute Gilani, the military uses its unlimited wiretapping powers and its minions to stir up charges against supreme court justices.</p>
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