Comments on: Was the Afghan war wrong from the start? Perspectives on Pakistan Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:31:05 +0000 hourly 1 By: malachite Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:19:38 +0000 Of course it was a mistake. Invading Afghanistan and then Iraq were both acts of hubris & stupidity. At the time of the neocons reckless & wasteful (of people, of lives) invasion of Afghanistan, there was mention of a Dept. of State study of the pros & cons of doing so and the consensus was definitely con.

Why should the US have been better able to invade and occupy/change a nation or collection of tribes that the Soviet Union and/or Great Britain at the height of its powers could not? Why would anyone but very hubristic reckles people want to commit their nation’s resources in the attempt unless there was a far better reason then the US had for doing so. The TALIBAN didn’t send those hijackers, nor did the Afghani people. Most of the hijackers were Saudi nationals and I believe Osama Bin-Laden originally came from SA as well.

It was clear to me that the neocons had little interesting in “winning” (whatever that meant to them, another problem was that the neocons seem to have had no realistic or measurable goals in either Afghanistan or Iraq. It does help to have a realistic Plan A and Plan B if Plan A doesn’t work, and w/luck a Plan C. All of them realistic and w/measurable goals. The neocons clearly didn’t and as a result, the US spent over trillion, just about destroyed Iraq (certainly didn’t “reconstruct” it as was allegedly part of the neocon “plan”).

Cost the US people over a trillion and counting. Has led to what Congress and the Executive branch seem to see as a permanent suspension of most of the civil rights listed in the Constitution, and more trillions estimated for health care costs for US veterans from both stupid stupid reckless invasions. Invasions and flawed and failed occupations. Is either nation better off? Does anyone think that the women in Afghanistan will be educated (except perhaps for a small minority) after the US leaves? The numbers are probably dwindling already–and that was the progress that Laura Bush bragged of.

And no way should the US have relied on Pakistan.

Again, it’s the hubris of the neocons that caused this mess. And yet Congress refuses to impeach & convict Bush II and Cheney and charge the DOJ w/prosecuting the rest of them for war crimes.

By: kEiThZ Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:22:22 +0000 An American counterpart of mine once had a simple retort when I brought up the same question. “We bombed the wrong country.”

You can’t win a counter-insurgency without going after the safe havens. And nobody imagined at the time that the Pakistanis would turn out to be as duplicitous as they did. Least of all the naive Americans who had considered that Pakistan value their longstanding alliance.

The US is now reassessing that relationship. And this entire episode has shown the US who its real friends are in the region. I expect Pakistan will only get a lukewarm reception in Western capitals from here on in.

And that’s how this war will be viewed in the end (at least in the West). A strategic blunder compounded by the treachery of one so-called ally.

By: khurramamalik Tue, 02 Apr 2013 08:40:00 +0000 USA is not as cute & gullible as you sound like in this article

By: Swstk Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:23:41 +0000 I strongly feel that the war in “Afghanistan” has dealt a severe injury to this heterogenous afghan/pushtun tribal confederacies, headed undoubtedly by remnants of the mongol claimants who utilized the tool of religion to overcome and had traveled via into old India.

Emphasis should be placed on reminders of individual lineages and recolonization.