Pakistan: Now or Never?
Perspectives on Pakistan
from Afghan Journal:
Challenging the myths of Pakistan’s turbulent northwest
Reuters' journalist Myra Macdonald travelled to Pakistan's northwest on the border with Afghanistan to find that some of the Kiplingesque images of xenophobic Pasthuns and ungovernable lands may be a bit off the mark especially now when the Pakistani army has taken the battle to the Islamist militants. Here's her account :
By Myra MacDonald
KHAR, Pakistan - I had not expected Pakistan's tribal areas to be so neat and so prosperous.
These are meant to be the badlands, mythologised as no-go areas by Kiplingesque images of xenophobic Pashtuns, jezail musket in hand, defying British troops from rugged clifftops.
They are the "ungovernable" lands where al Qaeda took sanctuary after the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan; the bastion of Islamist militants said to threaten the entire world.
Yet to fly by helicopter for the first time into Bajaur tribal agency is to challenge the more wildly imagined cliches about this little-visited region on the Pakistan-Afghan border.
Pakistan’s Swat deal under microscope again, after attack
President Asif Ali Zardari has said that an agreement signed last month to allow Islamic law in the troubled Swat Valley in return for a ceasefire was made with religious clerics, and not the Taliban. The Pakistani state had not negotiated with the Taliban and other extremist elements, and nor will it ever do so, Zardari wrote in an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal.
But some people are questioning the distinction that Zardari is drawing between the “traditional local clerics” and the Swat Taliban militants who effectively control what was once an idyllic holiday destination. In the light of the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore, the first major strike on international sport since the Munich Olympic massacre of 1972, the debate over the deal has acquired a sharper edge as some see it as having emboldened the militants in the first place.
Bill Roggio, writing in the The Weekly Standard blog, says Sufi Mohammad, the cleric who negotiated the ceasefire in Swat with the government of the North West Frontier Province, has been a long-time Taliban supporter praising them as recently last month just days before the accord was signed.
He quotes Mohammad as saying in a recent interview that he believed the Taliban regime in Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001 was “ideal.”
“From the very beginning, I have viewed democracy as a system imposed on us by the infidels. Islam does not allow democracy or elections,” Mohammad told Deutsche Presse-Agentur just days before the latest agreement was signed. “I believe the Taliban government formed a complete Islamic state, which was an ideal example for other Muslim countries.”
In 1990s, Mohammed ran an armed campaign to force the introduction of sharia in the region and in 2001 led his supporters to Afghanistan to fight alongside the Taliban against U.S.-led coalition forces as this Reuters story says. He was arrested upon his return and released in 2007 after he said he was giving up violence.
Peace,
Please take a pill to care yourself down.
What proof do you have that India is funding Taliban in Swat? None. If this was the case Pakistan and India would be at war already. Its all in your head. You call yourself a patriotic Pakistani, well good for you. However, do not let your patriotism cloud your thinking to make rash judgements. You mention RAW today; next week you will state CIA, MI5, MI6 or your great satan…MOSSAD!!!!
Isn’t it disheartening enough to see the Sri Lankan players get attacked on their way to the stadium? They were promised ‘presidential security’. Where was it? No country will come to Pakistan to play international cricket for a long time. The ICC will drop Pakistan as host of the 2011 Cricket World Cup, but India and Bangladesh will lose out in this too. For all I know South Africa will host in 2011.
Pakistan has suffered and will continue to suffer, which is why its been:
(1) Asking Saudi Arabia for defferment in oil payments.
(2) Asking the USA for ‘money on the table’ no questions asked and no strings attached.
(3) Asking China for a loan (soft or otherwise) and getting rebuffed.
(4) Forming this ‘Friends Of Democratic Pakistan’ group to help steer Pakistan through tough times. This was a real desperate attempt to get as many countries together and show how friendly Pakistan is.
(5) Going to the IMF for a loan and meeting having to meet the IMF guys in Dubai because of secuity concerns in Pakistan.
No tourists will visit Pakistan; no international sports events will be hosted by Pakistan because foreign teams will not want to travel there. No investments will come into the country because of these incidents, but also there is a worldwide recession.
Compromise in Swat: is the Pakistan army up to fighting insurgency?
Pakistan’s military has ordered troops to hold fire in the Swat valley following the deal between the provincial government and Taliban militants to enforce Islamic law.
The truce comes after nearly two years of fighting in which the Taliban have extended their control of the alpine region barely 130 km (80 km) northwest of Islamabad, destroyed the police force, established a shadow government and implemented an austere form of Islamic law.
So the question being asked in the aftermath of the deal is: has the Pakistan army backed off from a debilitating war? Second, and more important from the standpoint of the bigger battles ahead especially in the tribal areas, does it really have the stomach for counter-insurgency operations ?
Jauhar Ismail in a post on All Things Pakistan says in an ideal world he would have hoped that the Pakistan army gained the upper hand in Swat to allow the authorities to negotiate from a position of strength. But that didn’t turn out to be the case, partly because of bad strategy and also because of the nature of guerrilla warfare.
Ultimately, the author argues the Pakistan army was never trained to fight a counter-insurgency. All its training, indeed most of its weapons, are focussed on the threat from India, existential or otherwise. Using helicopter gunships and artillery barrages to pummel your own people into submission is almost a sure-fire way to lose the war.
The Indian army, by contrast, has had greater experience in guerrilla warfare, beginning with the dozens of insurgencies in the northeast, to the Sikh revolt in the Punjab in the 1980s and the Kashmir revolt in 1989. And if the Indian army finds itself still engaged in both Kashmir and the northeast (Punjab was a success, though) after decades of operations, you can imagine what the Pakistanis are up against in such a short time period.
@mauryan
It is good you admit India trained terrorists in neighboring countries and used them for Indian political objectives. That means you have no right to accuse Pakistan of doing the same to you.
U.S. Predator strikes cripple al Qaeda in Pakistan?
America’s ramped-up Predator drone campaign against al Qaeda in Pakistan’s northwest is starting to pay off, according to U.S. and Pakistani intelligence authorities quoted in a clutch of media reports.
Eleven of the group’s top 20 “high value targets” along the Afghan border have been eliminated in the past six months Newsweek magazine reports, citing Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).
The strikes by the unmanned drones circling high above Pakistan’s rugged tribal areas have been so pin-pointed that in one case a missile fired at a hideout in North Waziristan didn’t just hit the right house, but the room in which Mustafa al-Misri (“Mustafa the Egyptian”) and several other Qaeda operatives were holed up. the magazine reports, quoting a Taliban sub-commander.
A U.S. counter-terrorism official goes so far as to suggest that the CIA-directed strikes have been so successful that it was possible to foresee a “complete al Qaeda defeat” in the mountainous region , according to this report in America’s National Public Radio.
Is that stretching the gains, a bit too triumphalist a picture?
Al Qaeda’s leadership cadre had been “decimated” with up to a dozen senior and mid-level operatives killed as a result of the strikes and the remaining leaders reeling from the attacks, U.S. officials say in the NPR report, adding achievements of the past several months should not be under-stated.
Al Qaeda is a worthwhile target. It must be eliminated.
However as these attacks are on Pakistan territory, as a good ally U>S. needs to give full info to Pakistan’s ISI and then withy their permission conduct these attacks. ISI should not give permission if it thinks that innocents would be killed.
However as Al Qaeda is sheltring in Pashtoon areas where their supporters house them….not each individual civilan, woman or child around them is a real terrorist and their presence there is simply b/c their family heads (males) have given permission to Al Qaeda…..a Drone attack would kill these innocent too……..therefore a much humane strategy would be to use ground spies and then elite commandoes (Pakistanis preferably) who go in discguidec properly and target kill al qaeda fugitives thus avoiding loss of innocent lives.
I would suggest Muslim armies (commandos) from Jordan, saudia Arabia, Yemen and egypt should also be brought in to attack and tsarget kill these terrorist. These countroes have a responsibility towards their citizens…who are terrorists and thus their security forces should be asked to financially and logistically and man power wise contribute in this war against Al qaeda…Why just US, NATO and Pakistan.
U.S. missile strikes on Pakistan : more of the same under Obama or worse to come?
The first U.S. missiles have struck Pakistan since U.S. President Barack Obama took office, dispelling any possibility that he might relent on these raids that have so angered Pakistanis, many of whom think it only engenders reprisal attacks from militants on their cities.
Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari protested to the U.S. ambassador over Friday’s twin raids in South and North Waziristan and newspaper editorialists and commentators are worried this is just a foretaste of things to come. The strikes, the first since Jan 2, have led the Dawn newspaper to recall Obama’s statements during the presidential camapaign when he repeatedly said he would “take out high value terrorist targets” inside Pakistan if it was unable or unwilling to do so.
“Three days into Obama’s presidency, we have the first evidence of how his promise will translate into action. Drone attacks in South and North Waziristan have killed at least 14 people, including what the media now routinely refers to as ‘foreign militants’, ” the newspaper said.
Early signs from Washington suggest that it will continue military action on Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), considered to be place where al Qaeda has reconstituted itself, the newspaper said. At the same time it will demand that Pakistan do more against the militants, tying aid to the armed forces with achieving concrete results.
The News wrote that the ‘rather optimistic assurance” given by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani earlier on that the Predator drone attacks would stop once Obama took charge had been dashed. And it added that it wasn’t clear why or how Gilani made such a statement when he was in no position to issue a guarantee on behalf of the Americans.
Pakistanis would have indeed been grateful, had the Americans hit the enemies of Pakistan i.e Baitullah Mehsud and other terrorists.
With 15,000 fighters in Pakistan’s FATA, who is in control?
The governor of Pakistan’s North West Frontier Province has been quoted as saying that there are 15,000 militants in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA).
The fighters, who would very nearly constitute a small army division, “have no dearth of rations, ammunition, equipment, even anti-tank mines,” Owais Ahmad Ghani told a team from the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan led by Asma Jahangir, according to newspaper reports. A militant or a foot soldier earned between 6,000 ($75) to 8000 rupees a month while commanders took home 20,000 rupees to 30,000 rupees, the governor said. With 15,000 armed fighters, give or take a few thousand, you would have to wonder who is control of the area, them or the security forces?
Some people are already asking that question as the writ of the state, always very tenous in the FATA, has been forefully challenged in the nearby areas of the North West Frontier Province, especially in the scenic Swat valley. Once popular with tourists, the alpine valley has become a battleground between the Pakistani Taliban determined to impose their strict interpretation of Islam as they push deeper into Pakistan on the one hand, and security forces trying to regain their grip.
The Taliban have imposed a ban on female education across Swat, saying it was “un-Islamic.” This week they blew up four schools after a government minister vowed to ensure that the schools re-opened in March after the winter break.
The Daily Times in an editorial headlined “The fall of Swat” said “after a year of military operations in Swat, the territory controlled by the terrorists has reportedly increased from 25 percent to 75 percent.”
Teachers in Swat say they can return to work only if the government restores peace and shuts down the militants’ radio over which they they make their threats, or if the militants themselves ask them to resume teaching.
@ RajeevI cant deny your findings. I admit.But that was years ago. The world has changed a lot after 9/11 and Mr. Musharraf. The jihadi organizations have been banned all over Pakistan and their assets have been frozen.Tell me something, do you know how many soldiers Pakistan has sacrificed for USA in the tribal areas in the name of this war against terrorism?? +1600! More than what US has sacrificed in Afghanistan!Pakistan has been fully committed to the war against terrorism and has infact handed over +600 Pakistanis’ to the CIA n FBI for their alleged affiliations to al qaeda and taliban. Those ppl then landed in Gunatanamo Bay!ISI is part of the Pakistan Army. So its wrong to suggest that it has helped the taliban which is tentamount to saying dat ISI has itself been involved in killing its soldiers which is a total lie.
Pakistan and its nuclear weapons loom large over Obama administration
Pakistan and its nuclear weapons are back in the centre of the U.S. foreign policy frame as a steady stream of reports from think tanks and newspapers build the case for President-elect Barack Obama to recognise and act urgently with regard to the potential threat from the troubled state.
The New York Times Magazine in an extensive article headlined Obama’s Worst Pakistan Nighmare says the biggest fear is not Islamist militants taking control of the border regions. It’s what happens if the country’s nuclear arsenal falls into the wrong hands. And it then takes a trip to the Chaklala garrison where the headquarters of Strategic Plans Division, the branch of the Pakistani government charged with protecting its growing arsenal of nuclear weapons, are located and led by Khalid Kidwai, a former army general.
“In the second nuclear age, what happens or fails to happen in Kidwai’s modest compound may prove far more likely to save or lose an American city than the billions of dollars the United States spends each year maintaining a nuclear arsenal that will almost certainly never be used, or the thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars we have spent in Iraq and Afghanistan to close down sanctuaries for terrorists,” writes David E. Sanger, author of a forthcoming book: “The Inheritance: The World Obama Confronts and the Challenges to American Power”.
The article quotes a Bush administration official as saying there were two ways Pakistan’s weapons could fall into the wrong hands. One was when the Pakistani military was moving its tactical weapons closer to the frontlines when it could be much more vulnerable to seizure by militants. A time of heightened tensions with India, as is the situation now following the attacks in Mumbai, would be a top reason for Pakistan to begin moving its weapons. Could that be one of the objectives of the Mumbai attacks, the New York Times asks.
A second route for al Qaeda would be to infiltrate Pakistan’s nuclear labs, put in sleeper cells and then squirrel away the material.
“It is relatively easy to teach Kidwai’s security personnel how to lock down warheads and store them separately from trigger devices and missiles, training that the United States has conducted, largely in secret, at a cost of almost $100 million.”
is nuclear terrorism possible in the indian sub continent if so what p[reventive measures should ind govt take?
Pakistani kids vote for Obama, hope he won’t rain missiles
A group of Pakistani kids have voted with their wallets (including Eid savings) for U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama, hoping he would resolve the conflict raging in their troubled northwest corner of the country through peaceful means.
The children in Peshawar, capital of the North-West Frontier Province which along with the Federally Administered Tribal Areas has become the central front in the battle against al Qaeda and the Taliban, had collected $261 for “Uncle Obama’s election campaign,” The News reports.
The children, aged 10 and 13, gathered outside the Press Club in Peshawar, accompanied by their parents and teachers, holding placards highlighting the cycle of violence they were trapped in, the newspaper said.
“We hear Obama speaking in television debates and addressing public meetings about a safe and prosperous future for the American children and people. And this is what we desire for ourselves,” one of the boys said.
The idea behind the small donation to the Obama campaign, made out of pocket money and Eid gifts, was to draw the world’s attention to the dangers the children faced in the NWFP and tribal areas, they said. (more…)
I sincerely hope Obabma’s party people get to know of this gesture, and give some serious thought to the requests of these innocent children. Ideally they should respond to the children via the same press.
If US truly wishes to eradicate the influence of Pakistan it needs to help invest in schools and vocational instituitions so that the young have futures and think twice before allowing themselves to be brainwashed by the taliban. Its the lack of education and options in life that lead the children to be recruited by Taliban, who do not represent Islam in any form.
Fears grow of U.S. attack on Pakistan
Some people have begun to voice what has been for some time an unspoken fear in Pakistan - that of a U.S. attack.
What would happen if there were to be another big attack on the United States that is traced back to militants holed up in Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas on the Afghan border?
“Such an attack would immediately trigger massive bombing and an invasion of Pakistan by the U.S. and NATO,” says Riaz Haq in his blog Haq’s musings. “It could also result in the removal of the democratically elected government and installation of a new military regime in Pakistan,” he writes. “In addition to unparalleled death and destruction, such a scenario could turn Pakistan into a failed state with widespread unrest, homelessness, poverty, hunger and disease.”
Within the United States, he says, it would mean the election of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
A top adviser to McCain appeared to corroborate that bit at least when he was quoted as telling Fortune magazine that a Sept.11-type attack before the November election would benefit McCain. Charlie Black has since apologised for his remarks following widespread criticism.
Haq is the not the only one worrying about the months ahead. Pakistani blogger Farrukh Khan Pitafi goes as far as to say : “Accept it or not, Pakistan is the next target of the U.S. invasion.” Over-reaction ? Paranoia ?
@Sanjeev,
I started reading with Raj’s comment and then went back to the beginning…. lol
Tell me the truth, didn’t you laughed once by reading so many truth posted?
@Raj
I trust you buddy, if you have laughed really, then believe me I laughed a loud @ 3:00 am and got my dad shouting @ me
To all my Pakistani friends,
Let’s pray the war doesn’t break off on your nations, cos if it does, please believe in Kabura’s words by looking at the current “War on Terror” you are supporting with USA. The thing is if Afghan is free from Taliban, then US will surely ask Kazari to send Afghans to support War on Pakistan, and take my work they will come with all vengeance and revenge to help USA by thinking of the support that your Army and ISI did to these Terrorists to take refuge in Aghan and spoil their nation for decades.
As far China is concerned I think they will support you just like your army is supporting War on Terror.
As far other Arabs are concerned they are busy in thinking about Oil prices gone so low, and worried about their living. They will not come to your help as you already being an ally with USA who is a foe of Arabs.
As far Israel is concerned, they damn care for UNSC etc, all they know is to strike at once. Remember Israel’s Nuclear is not yet known to anyone, they are very secretive, and they have full support from US (who always discloses other nations’ nuclear installations and tests”, so in case of Israel, they wouldn’t or didn’t. BTW they are very irritated on the word “Jihad”.
As far India is concerned, although they have a good relationship/friendship/ties with Russia, India really don’t depend on Russia as Pakistan depends on China. And I’m sure whole world knows India has edge over Pakistan in past wars and will have in future too. Note if you have an access to UNSC sites, you can see UNSC charters & archives.
As far Russia is concerned, a word of caution don’t wake up the Monster by mistake. Neither China nor Pakistan can do anything to them. In fact despite all enmity, disputes even US and China couldn’t make a move on them. Also don’t forget they were the key in WWI and WWII when Pakistan was just an infant. I must also pity because they are a good ally to India.
@Kabur, Irna
I appreciate you words, it makes to me agree with you to much extent.
Pakistan-U.S. alliance scarred
A New York Times report about Pakistan threatening to postpone or cancel an American programme to train a paramilitary force because of last week’s U.S. air strikes has been widely picked up in the Pakistani media.
Eleven soldiers from the Frontier Corps died in those air strikes in the Mohmand agency in circumstances that remain unclear. But the U..S.-Pakistan alliance forged after the September 11 attacks has been deeply scarred as a result, says the report. It quotes former Pakistan Army chief General Jehangir Karamat as saying that the United States deliberately targeted Pakistani forces and that there had not been a statement from the United States that this was friendly fire and that the intention was not to attack Pakistani forces.
The Frontier Corps is the very paramilitary force that Washington had begun spending $400 million to train in counter-insurgency techniques.
Such is the anger in Pakistan, inflamed further by Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s threat to send troops in to Pakistan to stop cross border attacks, that defence expert Shireen M Mazari questioned whether America was a “dubious ally or an outright enemy.”
Air strikes are blunt instruments and rarely win hearts and minds, says writer Eric Margolis. Attacks by U.S. aircraft, Predator hunter-killer drones, U.S. special forces and CIA teams have been rising steadily inside Pakistan’s FATA, and instead of intimidating the Taliban, they have ignited a firestorm of anti-western fury among the tribesmen, he writes.
But the United States says cross border attacks into Afghanistan have been increasing – there were 50 percent more in April than the year before- attributing it to lack of pressure on the militants on the other side of the border.
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The Brirs. or the forefathers of Ncdonalds stayed there for almost one hundred years and sent similar commentary to their homeland. Yes a lot has changed since those days. Many non Pashtoon folks from other part of the country have taken residence there somewhat similar to millions who are now living in the United Kingdom as UK citizens. In fact it is Scotland now which is seeking indepemdence from the the UK. But this is another story. I have a question, does Myra speaks or understand Pashto. The journalist who report on “France 24″ cable net work go to the same territory with the Taliban guides and that tells the world a different story. Inccidently General Warburton did speak some Pashto and understood the language as well. Perhaps Myra should read his book and next time accompany the local tribe’s man to report the story and not that is insinuated by the occupation army. Myra Macdonald could have also ask the army spokesman if they are still paying a monthly toll to the tribal elders in the area?