Comments on: The Republicans’ urban problem http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/ Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:10:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Leftcoastrocky http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-221 Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:41:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-221 so what are republicans left with — rural whites, primarily the elderly and the evangelicals

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By: kmtierney http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-158 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:56:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-158 @PCScipio

Actually, Walker was never really in danger of losing his job. He increased his share of the vote. What a few readers of DailyKos told themselves didn’t really imapct on reality. If anything, Walker’s reforms have proven quite popular. Why? Because they were centered around improving quality of education for kids, keeping teachers hired, and the savings from bloated contracts was able to be used to help keep the state portion of Medicare solvent. Outside of the dailykos crowd and teachers unions (normally the same people), the left didn’t want to fight Walker on this. There’s a reason Obama stayed away.

I also find the views of the “tolerant” liberals commenting here quite amusing.

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By: KingKongJunior http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-157 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:35:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-157 I’m an Asian American voter and I agree with most of the above: GOP went too extreme and even though I do not completely agree with Democrat, I vote for them most of the time this time.

To me there is something more important than paying a couple more percentage in tax: my children’s future education. I also do not think their “them against us” mentality on all things immigration is helping them.

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By: AlkalineState http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-156 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:03:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-156 “What is it about life in America’s densest, most productive, and most economically stratified metropolitan areas that persuades voters to back Democrats?”

They are less responsive to right wing paranoia and the anti-intellectual appeals of today’s republican party. Follow the camo. When you’re out and about on any given day, if less than one in five hats is camouflage, that district is voting Democrat.

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By: sarkozyrocks http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-155 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:15:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-155 It should be clear why Republicans don’t want the places they live to become like the places most Democrats live. See “The Best and Worst Run States in America”: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-best-a nd-worst-run-states-in-america-150415625 .html The top of the list is entirely Red state. The bottom of the list is entirely Blue state (with exception of Arizona). A demographically-driven election result where the poorly run states win and try to force their policies will absolutely not cause people in well run Red states to modify their positions without serious conflict…a recipe for major social conflict. Disintegration of the Union??? We live in interesting times no doubt…

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By: sarkozyrocks http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-154 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:56:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-154 White flight must be understood. These people leave urban areas in large part because they do not want to integrate with urbanites (for whatever reasons…which can’t be denied…it exists). They don’t want to integrate politically, culturally, etc…etc…; i.e. they don’t want the place they live to become more like the places urbanites live…and you cannot force them to…even through an election outcome where the urbanite majority wins, and the urbanites enact laws which try to confiscate their property to balance the scales as they see fit. Highly educated black flight from the ghetto is also a reality…for similar reasons. These people will eventually, over a period of time, end up cloistered in “fortress communities” / “fortress states”, and fight for “state’s rights” / local self-determination. Most Republicans will never move to many of the urbanite positions under any circumstances whatsoever. To think they will is to misunderstand the divide in our country.

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By: Sanity-Monger http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-153 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:51:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-153 Cites are monuments to what government can provide to a society. Republicans seems to think that government’s role is to transfer wealth to the less deserving. But in cities, local governments provide infrastructure from sanitary sewers to public transit to building code enforcement. The result is a vibrant place, full of cultural as well as economic opportunities that make life much richer. And it really can’t work without a strong government presence. And that requires that folks pay taxes.

How in the world can Republicans make their case in such an environment without fundamentally changing what they stand for?

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By: Foxdrake_360 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-152 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 04:18:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-152 @jswain23

It’s because he’s never really suffered. Either that or he’s a bit of a whore willing to sell himself for a bit of a pay-check. I’m guessing both.

That said, writing this dribble certainly beats working for a living.

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By: jswain23 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-151 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:47:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-151 Elitist views. Elitist opinions. It never fails to amuse me that you, a man of “color” can be so blinded to what the party of YOUR choice would do to you and those like you without a strong group of socially conscious and committed liberals that risk everything to protect your right to choose you political beliefs.

Too bad you can’t do the same for women and their reproductive rights (and at its most basic, CONTROL OF THEIR BODIES), and for our society as a whole. Instead you choose to take sides with those that want full entitlement to everything without paying ANYTHING.

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By: QuietThinker http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2012/11/27/the-republicans-urban-problem/#comment-150 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:14:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=83#comment-150 Paul Ryan’s comment is meant to reinforce the notion that Obama was the candidate of “those people” and “those people” alone. It isn’t about future strategy so much as continuing the idea that you are either with “us” or you are one of “those people” (non-whites of the inner city or Romney’s 47%). You are supposed to accept the entire ideological agenda as a whole without question or independent thought or be called a traitor to your kind (RINO or liberal). Keep a simple choice between the extremes without any consideration of gray areas, compromises, or complexities of the real world and Republicans should win.

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