Comments on: The future of Hispanic identity http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/ Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:10:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: mischling2nd http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-482 Thu, 16 May 2013 04:27:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-482 When Hispanics and their allies want to “prove” they are not a “race.” they point out that Hispanics come in “all colors” and phenotypes. American “blacks” claim that THEY come in “all colors” and are a “race.” It’s politically incorrect to point out that both can’t be right.

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By: rikfre http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-480 Fri, 10 May 2013 17:25:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-480 voy aprender Ingles…..

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By: KyleDexter http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-479 Thu, 09 May 2013 14:40:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-479 @TheAntagonist, very well said! Spot on!

@PseudoTurtle, I did actually post that about John Lloyds article. What I find offensive about your original comments are that Mexico is a third world country. Actually it is a developing country, and has been doing quite well. As for the violence, why look at the drug cartel. Look at our gun violence here. We have more children dying here from gun violence than many parts of the world! And as for being religious, this part really makes me laugh. You must be so delusional to think that we are not a religious country ourselves. Look at most Republican voters. Most think Obama is the Anti-Christ!!

So just as I told John Lloyd, get off your ivory tower of American ‘exceptionalism’, and realize that there is nothing exceptional about us. Nobody is exceptional. We are county with alot of problems but with the rule of law, some really good technology and a few good people.

And remember, there is good and bad in every country of the world….

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-478 Wed, 08 May 2013 23:32:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-478 @theAntagonist,

You’re doing just fine in English. Well said!

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By: AZreb http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-477 Wed, 08 May 2013 13:34:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-477 In order to get our government to give in to their “demands”, they WILL identify themselves as hispanics!

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By: theAntagonist http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-474 Wed, 08 May 2013 10:25:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-474 @PseudoTurtle

Dear Sir,

I’ve been reading your comments for quite some while now and was hoping to interact.

You seem to percieve that you have an absolute monopoly on the one true opinion, and that everyone who disagrees with you is an enemy with the intent on destroying the way of life you’ve grown common with. I find this not only slightly disturbing, but also somewhat offensive. But please, that is my personal opinion.

You have claimed that you are an educated individual with economical experience. Somewhere along those lines you must have missed out the effect of a nuanced opinion. You claim to know things better than others, and if they question you, you feel as if they must be truely insane. How this was ever effective in an economic, managerial or any leading function baffles me. Please, try reading others opinions emphatically and remain civilized, that is the only thing I ask of you.

As for your anti-internationalism, I too find that the ‘disappearance’of borders throughout the world is troublesome. The worlds conflict revolve around this for a large share and I see no decreasing trend.
However, what would the solution be? We cannot and should not reverse our development. Development in the technological sense, makes our world smaller. Development in the social and cultural sense creates the global challenge of co-existance.
I percieve that if we reinstate a strong sense of nationalism, and isolation of ethnical proportions would be required. How do you think that process will come to effect? I do not feel a modern-era exodus would benefit mankind.

Furthermore, I feel like some of your arguments are flawed. Sometime they are stained by the unusual agression in your way of writing, sometimes I feel there is a limited argumentation.

“The reason I don’t care is that BIGOTS (look it up) are not the exclusively white, but come in a variety of races, creeds and colors.

You bigots are all alike. If you don’t like what someone says, then they MUST be narrow minded, racist and self-righteous.

Therefore, attacking my character — mainly because you lack the ability to understand what I am saying, but feel it is somehow deeply offensive — is an appropriate response. Right? Wrong!”

This comment in particular I find a certain pot, kettle situation. You claim that the article above is liberal propaganda especially targeted on bringing your (not my, I’m no US citizen!) nation to the ground and further promoting higher profits for large companies.
When others try to argue against you you automatically feel “you lack the ability to understand what I am saying”. This in my sense is the arguementation of a bigot.

What I am trying to say sir, for the benefit for the discussion, please reflect on your method of thinking and open your mind to debate, instead of simply ranting.

P.S. English is not my native languange, please excuse any flaws in my writing and grammar.

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By: THEAKINET http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-473 Wed, 08 May 2013 01:48:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-473 “It appears, according to Duncan and Trejo, that the educational attainment of Mexican-Americans who don’t identify as Mexican is higher than for those who do.”

So the losers id as mexican to get affirmative action, but the winners id as white to prove they’re not losers.

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By: ReaderAtSunrise http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-472 Tue, 07 May 2013 23:42:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-472 @PseudoTurtle
I was not referring to the Pilgrims.
I meant the entire immigration from Europe lead by the English in the north, and the Spanish conquistadors in the south. We can both agree that the relations between the colonists and their descendants with the Natives in North America did not, in general terms, not go well. As you mention there were atrocities that modern law today would not permit. Indeed, you said that the British Empire caused alot of problems that we are seeing now. All I was saying was that colonists for whatever reason messed with the lives of the Natives who settled in the Americas millenia before the Europeans.Thank you very much for your time and response.

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By: PseudoTurtle http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-471 Tue, 07 May 2013 21:41:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-471 @ KyleDexter —

Hey, Kyle, don’t look now but someone is using your login to make sense. You may be deeply offended by your alter ego, who is making you sound like you have some intelligence. Doesn’t that just make your guts churn with anger? Go get ’em, tiger!

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Another elitist article by John Lloyd. What about America’s problems?? What about our ballonning deficits and national debt? What about our permanently unemployed?

But the nerve that Mr. Lloyd has about mentioning Syria!!! We, the USA, are the worlds biggest state sponser of terrorism. We are supporting terrorists in Syria, even as some in the UN are finding out that our beloved ‘rebels’ used sarin gas. And we support Isreal in every single Palestinian child killed there.

So Mr. Lloyd, if you want to see who is in trouble, look straight outside the window of your Ivory Tower.
Posted by KyleDexter

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By: PseudoTurtle http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/05/06/the-future-of-hispanic-identity/#comment-470 Tue, 07 May 2013 20:39:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=217#comment-470 @ KyleDexter —

Apparently, you object to something I have said, but also seem unable to form even so much as a coherent reponse beyond calling me a “racist and self-righteous”.

My race is none of your business, nor do I particularly care what yours is, although I would assume you are white yourself from your name. I may be mistaken, but I really don’t care since it doesn’t matter to me anyhow.

The reason I don’t care is that BIGOTS (look it up) are not the exclusively white, but come in a variety of races, creeds and colors.

You bigots are all alike. If you don’t like what someone says, then they MUST be narrow minded, racist and self-righteous.

Therefore, attacking my character — mainly because you lack the ability to understand what I am saying, but feel it is somehow deeply offensive — is an appropriate response. Right? Wrong!

Yours is the gut-level reaction of an ill-educated buffoon (fool, to save you looking it up, since I doubt if you could understand an English dicitonary, much less anything greater in scope).

Clearly, if you had any degree of education you could think up better insults than the tired old hakneyed (look it up yourself) equivalent of “up yours”.

As I clearly pointed out above NO ONE is native to this continent. That is a proven scientific fact. The American Indians arrived here across a land bridge from Siberia during the last ice age.

So, to make it abuntantly clear, hopefully to even someone as dense as you are, but somehow I doubt it — THERE ARE NO NATIVE AMERICANS.

Since there are no Native Americans, claims based on that staus are false and easily disproved. Look it up, yourself. I don’t intend to give you the education you obviously slept through. No doubt you are a product of the “finest educational system in the world”, if you want to believe the wealthy class. “Ownership” of this land is not a matter of who got here first, but who has managed to retain possession. Clearly, as I said if you bothered to read what I said above, that would be the English, beginning around the early 1600s.

NOTHING I have said in my comments could be construed as racist, unless of course you choose to take them that way. That is your problem, not mine.

There is also a question as to the existence of “God” or “Karma” for philosphical reasons I cannot possibly explain to someone as ignorant as you. Clearly, by using them in this context you understand nothing of what either of them might mean.

Thanks for responding to my comment!

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