Comments on: Obamacare’s threat to healthcare innovation http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/ Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:10:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: orangutan http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-728 Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:36:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-728 It isn’t until the sixth paragraph that Salam gets around to actually mentioning the “threat” promised in the headline, and it doesn’t turn out to be anything of substance at all. But hey, if you want to hate Obamacare, keep trying.

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By: QuietThinker http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-726 Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:04:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-726 Romneycare=Obamacare is the “disruptive innovation” Salam, Wanamaker, and Bean have it backwards. The health plan offered to the nation by the Republicans for the years that they controlled both houses and the presidency was to do nothing (except protect profiteers) and watch record increase after record increase in costs.

To those who think that they have the best healthcare in the world. You are completely wrong, we rank 51st in life expectancy according to the CIA Factbook. Our healthcare is not the best, just the most expensive.

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By: JL4 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-725 Wed, 02 Oct 2013 02:03:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-725 @OOTS, Please, please, please learn the proper use of quotation marks. I might be inclined to read your posts (I’ve stopped completely) if I thought you had taken a minute to figure out some simple punctuation.

I understand that Reuters doesn’t allow the use of italics, bold, etc., but most readers can, and will, put the emphasis where you want it, if you’ve written it well.

Now getting us to agree with you is another matter entirely.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-723 Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:18:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-723 @tmc,

My choice to continue driving an older car (which I do, and really like) is, in reality, a choice of “the devil I know” over one I don’t. My old car is long paid for.
America today “pays” for those who can not or will not pay for themselves (insurance or otherwise) by counterfeiting…which I would define as printing bills with NO “full faith of the worth and word of the government behind them”. Our government has long ago squandered whatever “faith and worth” was there by merely shoveling much of this money out such that NOTHING of value is pufrchased or returns (even in the long term).

“We have proof it can be paid for by reducing cost and going to a single payer system like Canada, Britain, Australia, etc.” I respectfully disagree. If you have aggressive cancer you can die. Such patients routinely find treatment elusive. Administrators deny and delay necessary approvals such that the progression of the disease is faster than receipt of effective treatment.

And don’t think the ordinary person on such “single payer systems” is going to get the “latest and greatest” available non-generic treatment or medicine. Only “tried and true” treatments and medicines that have been around long enough to have gone generic (and be relatively cheap) are approved. How many offer digital mammograms?

I have long said that “We, the people” must, at some point, come to consensus as to what “needs” available revenue can sustainably support. So long as we do not do this, there is NO limit to the size of our government and it’s hoards of bureacrats and no limit to the percentage of “our” income it will demand to feed itself.

With such consensus, all our “representatives” then need do is prioritize said available revenue and disburse it…that’s the “budget” and the bureaucrat’s responsibility. This process will never be “easy”, but our ancestors managed to do it with MUCH less money, education and gross national product.

How? They understood the difference between aspiration and reality. We have utterly failed in our obligation to teach recent “I WANT IT NOW” generations how to do that.

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By: Des3Maisons http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-721 Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:27:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-721 Mr. Salam forgot to mention that perhaps the new health care law would have been much better without the influence of lobbyists from the healthcare industry spreading around millions in corporate money in the U.S. Congress. Advocates for single payer were not even allowed at the negotiating table. Single payer is coming though. It’s only a matter of time.

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By: Des3Maisons http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-720 Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:15:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-720 “If the exchanges don’t work smoothly, however, they might deter all but the sickest, most vulnerable healthcare consumers from enrolling…”

All?!?! ALL?!?! What an irresponsible thing to say! Anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together knows that big new computer systems always have glitches. Look at the Microsoft operating systems. Every single new version of Windows has always had glitches. With 50 million people with no health insurance in this country I would bet there will be a great many healthy people that will let nothing deter them from enrolling, even in spite of the $400 million negative ad campaign by Republicans, especially by Charles & David Koch, corporate billionaire brothers and Tea Party kings.

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-719 Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:59:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-719 @OOTS, we were already paying for the car, as you put it. We knew that the payments were going to bankrupt us in the near future. We alos couldn’t take the kids for a ride in that car, nor the large dog we already had. So a dealer offered us another car that could do those things for the same price. Now, yes, he’s a slimey car dealer and is probably lying to us, just like the one that sold us the first car (republican congress and Hilary care). I’m thinking it’s a good idea to take the new car that more meets our needs and worry about the financing as the second part of the battle.
How can you not see this? You will stubbornly hold onto that old car until it bankrupts you, your kids leave you cause you can’t take care of then, and your dog starves. But you didn’t fall for it again did you! Or did you? Be smarter than the salesman, take the deal and change the financing.

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By: johnwerneken http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-718 Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:03:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-718 Every single thing Obama does is boneheaded, counter productive, and unpopular. The exception is that until recently most of us kinda liked him personally. Oh well.

The GOOD thing about Obamacare is that it was forced down the people’s throats in a manner only equaled once before in US history, and Abraham Lincoln had to field an army at war for four years to do it. Seriously.

Health care is right up there with education as a totally dysfunctional and corrupt part of the economy and for the same reason: because the people care about their health and their kids, the government got involved. Perhaps with everyone screwed by Obamacare, State regulation of health and of insurance might get abolished so that competition and patient empowerment might come to be.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-717 Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:26:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-717 Correction: Should have read “How consistently immature to NOT consider it important…”

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2013/09/27/obamacares-threat-to-healthcare-innovation/#comment-716 Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:24:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=416#comment-716 @ptiffany,

How consistently immature to consider it important HOW TO PAY for Obamacare and to question what is actually new in it (which NO ONE seems to KNOW) that is better for the productive in America (who pay for EVERYTHING).

You don’t “try a new car” unless you can AFFORD TO BUY ONE!

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