Comments on: Reality check: Death penalty is too expensive to make sense http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/ Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:10:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: UrDrighten http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1317 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 00:59:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1317 By the time of Jesus Christ, the Jews had used their Talmud to make the death penalty almost impossible as a punishment due to extreme requirements: at least 2 eyewitnesses, defendant must have announced prior to the murder that he intended to commit the murder AND someone else had to try to talk him out of it (several times – if I recall correctly), the jury had to have at least 1 vote for acquittal, etc, to act on their scriptural mandate of an eye for an eye.

Jesus Christ was recorded to have advocated mercy towards those who commit violence. Turn the other cheek, blessed are the merciful, the standard by which you judge others is same standard you will be judged by (after death). Nowhere in the Christian scriptures do the authors advocate executing anyone at all.

In Islam, the Qur’an says that forgiving a murderer by sparing him from execution (with or without financial compensation for the victim’s family) is an act of great moral merit.

From the viewpoint of conservatives, America is a “Christian nation” with sizable minorities of Jews and Muslims. These conservatives want their beliefs made into the norm for everyone, and yet, they cannot seem to find the mercy that they own religion dictates.

I’ve never voted to execute a criminal, so I think I am morally qualified to “cast the first stone” about this.

It’s a pity that Mr. Salam couldn’t advocate compassion and mercy as a reason to banish the death penalty in this country.

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By: JulsMan http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1316 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 21:29:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1316 HAHA! These idiots think its the cost of the chemicals and delivery methods that make the execution expensive. Bullets and firing squads, that will bring the costs down. LOL. Morons. This absence of thought makes it impossible for any thinking human to be a conservative. New party please!!

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By: agentinsure http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1315 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:10:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1315 Perhaps we could bring back the art of crucifixion as a means to an end.

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By: timebandit http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1314 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:49:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1314 Violent sociopaths and psychopaths are too expensive. The U.S. is 40+ years late coming to the realization that warm milk and a hug at night will fix he enormous numbers of barbaric subhumans constantly casing our streets and public venues for innocents to harm and kill.

Past time for biomedical research science to hone down the known 1000 genetic markers for sociopathic behaviors that are shared by most men in prison for violent crimes. Start testing for it, then pay people who have those markers not to breed. Just as important, a pre-natal test; positive for those markers in utero … outta here. There are 7 billion humans on the planet. If only .5% are violent sociopaths – and the percentage is actually far higher – that’s too many dangerous predators walking around looking to rape and murder children and women.

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By: Nagant http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1313 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:41:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1313 Obtaining lethal injection drugs became overly expensive, with legal processes about making manufacturer names available to the convicts and their lawyers, and all. So why not just going back to hanging? It is (or at least was) quite usual a procedure. And if it was not cruel in the days of founding fathers, why suddenly it became cruel after centuries of successful application? So that, for the constitutionality of hanging.
A rope is cheap, and there’s always someone willing to kick a bench from under the feet of the convict, if only for the kick of it. And lengthy appeals are in fact a violation of the constitutional right to a speedy trial. Not only the criminals have that right, the families of their victims have it, too, as there’s no closure till the justice runs its course. And as a side effect of speeding up the justice, the tax payers will save greatly on legal costs.

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By: Faxplz http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1312 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:50:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1312 USA needs to go to China and the Middle East for some lessons on how to run the death penalty. Smooth and efficient, innocence or not.

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By: Syanis http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1311 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:21:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1311 The death penalty is also a major deterrent as long as used properly. No sitting around in a cush cell for 20-30 years while exhausting appeals. Your found guilty and you get 1 appeal which first goes to a panel of 3 judges to determine if there is any basis for appeal. Only allow appeals of not guilty by innocence, no other reasonings allowed. If heinous criminals were executed one after another it would deter others greatly.

The option of no death penalty needs to reform the prison system greatly. Make these prisoners work doing hard labor again. They can work in coal mines and other mines, quarries, and plenty of other government hard labor projects. Attempt to escape is shot dead on sight. No more TVs, no more exercise gyms, no more taxpayer funded education for convicts. The meals could even be toned down. They can get healthy food but nothing says it has to taste good.

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By: Syanis http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1310 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:14:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1310 From earlier articles and government info. The cost for Lethal Injection is about $150k per inmate. That’s less then 2 years of incarceration and don’t need to worry about more medical expenses when the inmate is very old and dieing.

However yes, the cost is to great. Bullets are far cheaper and less likely to have issues. Firing squad is just fine and we know they will be dead within seconds. Electrocution is also far cheaper.

Do we really want to give a damn about someone feeling pain for a couple seconds or milliseconds when they caused massive pain to those they killed / raped. They caused years of pain to the families and loved ones of their victims. I really don’t give a damn if they feel pain… correction… I would prefer they feel just a fraction of the same pain as they died.

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By: JulsMan http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1309 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 00:01:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1309 Conservatives believe in the death penalty because “it reflects their belief in the importance of individual responsibility” – that is the kindest most gracious, patronizing, a$$ kissing explanation of a Conservative view of the death penalty that I’ve ever heard. That’s like saying, Conservatives believe in a strong military because they believe in defending our homeland. What we omitted is their equally strong belief that the best defense is a good offense … (insert evil laugh as missiles are launched and fighter jets take to the air!). This article is a fail! Reihan’s exhalation of conservative values just got contradicted by every conservative that posted on this article.

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By: DonKrieger http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/2014/06/20/reality-check-death-penalty-is-too-expensive-to-make-sense/#comment-1306 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 14:00:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reihan-salam/?p=829#comment-1306 I favor the use of the guillotine for executions.
It is direct, quite reliable, and simple.
The experience of the French prior to discarding the death penalty was very consistent.

With regards pain, it is absolutely irrational to insist that our penal system function without pain. The line for “cruelty” is a different matter but surely it makes no sense whatever to incarcerate someone for even a few minutes and insist that we do so without pain.

I personally favor retaining the death penalty for 3 reasons: (1) It eliminates the possibility that the criminal who is executed will cause harm in the future. (2) It relieves society of the burden of incarcerating the criminal. (3) It relieves society of responsibility for the unavoidable cruelties which attend long term incarceration.

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