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	<title>Comments on: Graphic images &#8212; how far is too far?</title>
	<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/</link>
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		<title>By: Marcella Griffin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-333477</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcella Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-333477</guid>
		<description>thank you very much, your article will help me a whole lot on my paper for school. Recently we read a selection from our book that was about a war and described many horrifying events that lead to the death of many prisoners.  Yes, it was very, very graphic and this was just something I READ!!!! Im with you Mr. Clarke I believe you and your company should not have to explain yourselves and the decision yall make in regards to editing information. Put it out there! People in this country are educated enough to where we can make our own decisions about the images we see and yeah are entitled to their beliefs, but if you don't like what you see turn the channel there is always something else that you can watch.  This is a war and this kind of stuff needs attention because IT IS REALLY HAPPENING!! Its shows the inhumanity surrounding the world and all the hate surrounding it as well. If people don't want to see it, than learn to respect others and their opinion, religion, beliefs, disabilities, and go help the ones in need.  Too bad we don't live in a perfect world where everybody can learn to get along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you very much, your article will help me a whole lot on my paper for school. Recently we read a selection from our book that was about a war and described many horrifying events that lead to the death of many prisoners.  Yes, it was very, very graphic and this was just something I READ!!!! Im with you Mr. Clarke I believe you and your company should not have to explain yourselves and the decision yall make in regards to editing information. Put it out there! People in this country are educated enough to where we can make our own decisions about the images we see and yeah are entitled to their beliefs, but if you don&#8217;t like what you see turn the channel there is always something else that you can watch.  This is a war and this kind of stuff needs attention because IT IS REALLY HAPPENING!! Its shows the inhumanity surrounding the world and all the hate surrounding it as well. If people don&#8217;t want to see it, than learn to respect others and their opinion, religion, beliefs, disabilities, and go help the ones in need.  Too bad we don&#8217;t live in a perfect world where everybody can learn to get along.</p>
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		<title>By: Jobitems</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-110600</link>
		<dc:creator>Jobitems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-110600</guid>
		<description>Images and videos showing someone's death, like this one, in your article are far beyond far :(</description>
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		<title>By: Thor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-95410</link>
		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-95410</guid>
		<description>Mr.Clarke,

The incident you mentioned in Sri Lanka about dismembered buddhist monks is not exactly correct(Though it's not the focus of the article).

The killing was done by Tamil Tigers(LTTE) and the monks were hacked to death and it was not due to any "religious violence". So I think it was incorrect to say "blown up in religious violence"

Thank You



"One gruesome story I recall from my days as a producer was the dismembered remains of a group of Buddhist monks blown up in religious violence in Sri Lanka. I chose to run the temple, blood, bodies from a slightly longer distance, but not close-up shots of piles of dismembered limbs being swept up."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Clarke,</p>
<p>The incident you mentioned in Sri Lanka about dismembered buddhist monks is not exactly correct(Though it&#8217;s not the focus of the article).</p>
<p>The killing was done by Tamil Tigers(LTTE) and the monks were hacked to death and it was not due to any &#8220;religious violence&#8221;. So I think it was incorrect to say &#8220;blown up in religious violence&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank You</p>
<p>&#8220;One gruesome story I recall from my days as a producer was the dismembered remains of a group of Buddhist monks blown up in religious violence in Sri Lanka. I chose to run the temple, blood, bodies from a slightly longer distance, but not close-up shots of piles of dismembered limbs being swept up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-94245</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-94245</guid>
		<description>What's important to remember, Reuters, is that your job is to REPORT the news, not MAKE/FABRICATE the news.  When your photographers photoshop, edit, or otherwise stage photographs in order to score political points or to make the picture more interesting/shocking/whatever, you are doing a disservice to the tens of thousands of men and women who have sworn to fight and die for your right to report without censorship.  I find it unbelievable that Reuters so often expresses sympathy for the very side which (were it in power in the West) would shut you down in a second unless you slavishly reported IT'S version of "truth".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s important to remember, Reuters, is that your job is to REPORT the news, not MAKE/FABRICATE the news.  When your photographers photoshop, edit, or otherwise stage photographs in order to score political points or to make the picture more interesting/shocking/whatever, you are doing a disservice to the tens of thousands of men and women who have sworn to fight and die for your right to report without censorship.  I find it unbelievable that Reuters so often expresses sympathy for the very side which (were it in power in the West) would shut you down in a second unless you slavishly reported IT&#8217;S version of &#8220;truth&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Sam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91470</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91470</guid>
		<description>A while ago, I learned the difference between a "News Agency" like Reuters (and Associated Press) and "Broadcasting Channels" like CNN (and ABC).
News agencies actually gather facts about an event and are chartered to portray the facts of such event using the best medium possible (i.e., videos) at a premium.
On the other hand, broadcasting channels digest your factual news and spinned them to service the audience and network they represent (i.e., liberal or conservative sector). That's why TV channels news anchors start their sales pitch by saying "According to Reuters..." and eventually you hear/see something like "This message was brought to you by..." (their sponsors and special interest groups).
Therefore, if you still consider Reuters a "News Agency" capable of gathering real-life events to sell them as "facts" you must deliver your news in raw format in the best medium possible (i.e, web, video).  That's your role, that's your market, that's what Reuters has been chartered with, your audience demands it, and Reuters is protected by the First Ammendmend.
If Reuters has become a broadcasting channel, then you must catter to your sponsors (i.e., political parties, special interest groups) and should not be afraid to twist the truth and sugar coat the facts to satisfied your audience.
Nobody,including Reuters, can serve two masters though. You tell me what role Reuters represents (News Agency/Broadcasting channel) and I will tell you how you should portray reality because your focus determines your reality. 
For the record, Reuters has historically been one the best news agencies on the planet.  Thank you for your good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while ago, I learned the difference between a &#8220;News Agency&#8221; like Reuters (and Associated Press) and &#8220;Broadcasting Channels&#8221; like CNN (and ABC).<br />
News agencies actually gather facts about an event and are chartered to portray the facts of such event using the best medium possible (i.e., videos) at a premium.<br />
On the other hand, broadcasting channels digest your factual news and spinned them to service the audience and network they represent (i.e., liberal or conservative sector). That&#8217;s why TV channels news anchors start their sales pitch by saying &#8220;According to Reuters&#8230;&#8221; and eventually you hear/see something like &#8220;This message was brought to you by&#8230;&#8221; (their sponsors and special interest groups).<br />
Therefore, if you still consider Reuters a &#8220;News Agency&#8221; capable of gathering real-life events to sell them as &#8220;facts&#8221; you must deliver your news in raw format in the best medium possible (i.e, web, video).  That&#8217;s your role, that&#8217;s your market, that&#8217;s what Reuters has been chartered with, your audience demands it, and Reuters is protected by the First Ammendmend.<br />
If Reuters has become a broadcasting channel, then you must catter to your sponsors (i.e., political parties, special interest groups) and should not be afraid to twist the truth and sugar coat the facts to satisfied your audience.<br />
Nobody,including Reuters, can serve two masters though. You tell me what role Reuters represents (News Agency/Broadcasting channel) and I will tell you how you should portray reality because your focus determines your reality.<br />
For the record, Reuters has historically been one the best news agencies on the planet.  Thank you for your good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Anderson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91421</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91421</guid>
		<description>Brutality and violence have sadly been a part of human behavior for thousands of years.  There's an old saying; "misery loves company".  Some people seem to need to be assured that there are people worse off then them.  In Roman times, there was Circus Maximus, and in the thirties during the depression, there were six day bicycle races and marathon dances.  Consider the 78% increase in profits in the horror movie industry just last year.  The censors have lost the battle for any "socially redeeming qualities" in movies.  The movie industry now freely churns out graphic scenes of torture and mayhem to an increasingly jaded audience.  Regarding graphic photos in the news, let your readers search for these, instead of posting them on the front page.  Consider the sad case of the Texas boy who hung himself because he saw a photo of Saddam at the gallows.  As the saying in the news industry goes, "if it bleeds, it reads".  I vote for a little more discretion in the posting of graphic material in the news.  Thanks for your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brutality and violence have sadly been a part of human behavior for thousands of years.  There&#8217;s an old saying; &#8220;misery loves company&#8221;.  Some people seem to need to be assured that there are people worse off then them.  In Roman times, there was Circus Maximus, and in the thirties during the depression, there were six day bicycle races and marathon dances.  Consider the 78% increase in profits in the horror movie industry just last year.  The censors have lost the battle for any &#8220;socially redeeming qualities&#8221; in movies.  The movie industry now freely churns out graphic scenes of torture and mayhem to an increasingly jaded audience.  Regarding graphic photos in the news, let your readers search for these, instead of posting them on the front page.  Consider the sad case of the Texas boy who hung himself because he saw a photo of Saddam at the gallows.  As the saying in the news industry goes, &#8220;if it bleeds, it reads&#8221;.  I vote for a little more discretion in the posting of graphic material in the news.  Thanks for your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: john clarke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91408</link>
		<dc:creator>john clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91408</guid>
		<description>All,

 

Thank you for all your responsesthere are too many for me to reply to each individually, but I should correct a couple of possible misconceptions.

A number of respondents seem to have confused CNN and Reuters, criticising Reuters on the basis of what CNN has put to air. We are completely separate organisations (although CNN is a client of Reuters and uses large amounts of our international news video). Reuters is also not an American news organisation, nor in fact, a news organisation tied to any one country  it is an independent, international newsgathering organisation with an international staff and global client base, committed to impartial and independent reporting.

Reuters supplies thousands of news companies around the world, and apart from our own consumer-facing properties such as this website, it is up to those subscribers what to use of our material and what they say about it. I understand that many of the responses to my first posting were about how the media generally does/doesnt or should/shouldnt treat graphic imagery, rather than direct comments on Reuters policy, but Reuters is no more the media than any other news organisation is.

As one respondent correctly pointed out, the internet has resulted in an explosion of different outlets for news-linked material (including war and related video). If long-established and dare I say it, respected news companies like Reuters ever did act as something of gatekeeper of standards and ethics for what the public sees, we no longer could be that even if we wanted tothere are far too many other news outlets for people to choose from and the internet has (rightly) ensured that no single news organisation can or should dominate the pipes of distribution (and therefore content) in a democracy.

That doesnt mean that we at Reuters should abandon all concepts of taste and ethics, and adopt a free-for-all mentality. There is an equally strong argument that in the anything-goes culture of the internet, a company like Reuters is needed more than ever before to provide a trusted and reliable source amid a media sea where the provenance of information is often difficult to be sure of.

Reuters will probably always be accused in equal part of being pro- and anti- the same country by different viewers/readers at the same time, with a variety of ulterior motives attributed to us by various sections of the community. Whether or not Saddam was a bad man is not particularly relevant to how we approach coverage of the occupation and insurgency since his capture (which is to cover it objectively and as best we can within the dangers and logistical challenges of the situation, because democracies, unlike Saddams dictatorship, are supposed to be open to scrutiny). I can understand however the view expressed by a couple of respondents that if the US media was prepared to show the sniper killings of US soldiers, then why not the execution of Saddam? (Unlike with the beheadings cases, we did not have a lot of television news editors around the world demanding we show the instant of Saddam's death, as verification was not the major issue).

Generally however, your comments have reinforced to me that we should wherever possible, provide all the relevant material we can to viewers (with warnings where necessary about graphic content), leaving it to their judgment as to what to conclude from it. That by necessity means sailing very close to what some would see the line of taste and decency, and maybe across it on occasion too (although it is also clear there is no one line or one correct decision in these matters). I would rather occasionally however put out material that is disquieting, because war and war imagery by definition is disquieting, than be too willing to edit something out and therefore deny potentially important information to the public.

John Clarke
News Editor
Reuters Television</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All,</p>
<p>Thank you for all your responsesthere are too many for me to reply to each individually, but I should correct a couple of possible misconceptions.</p>
<p>A number of respondents seem to have confused CNN and Reuters, criticising Reuters on the basis of what CNN has put to air. We are completely separate organisations (although CNN is a client of Reuters and uses large amounts of our international news video). Reuters is also not an American news organisation, nor in fact, a news organisation tied to any one country  it is an independent, international newsgathering organisation with an international staff and global client base, committed to impartial and independent reporting.</p>
<p>Reuters supplies thousands of news companies around the world, and apart from our own consumer-facing properties such as this website, it is up to those subscribers what to use of our material and what they say about it. I understand that many of the responses to my first posting were about how the media generally does/doesnt or should/shouldnt treat graphic imagery, rather than direct comments on Reuters policy, but Reuters is no more the media than any other news organisation is.</p>
<p>As one respondent correctly pointed out, the internet has resulted in an explosion of different outlets for news-linked material (including war and related video). If long-established and dare I say it, respected news companies like Reuters ever did act as something of gatekeeper of standards and ethics for what the public sees, we no longer could be that even if we wanted tothere are far too many other news outlets for people to choose from and the internet has (rightly) ensured that no single news organisation can or should dominate the pipes of distribution (and therefore content) in a democracy.</p>
<p>That doesnt mean that we at Reuters should abandon all concepts of taste and ethics, and adopt a free-for-all mentality. There is an equally strong argument that in the anything-goes culture of the internet, a company like Reuters is needed more than ever before to provide a trusted and reliable source amid a media sea where the provenance of information is often difficult to be sure of.</p>
<p>Reuters will probably always be accused in equal part of being pro- and anti- the same country by different viewers/readers at the same time, with a variety of ulterior motives attributed to us by various sections of the community. Whether or not Saddam was a bad man is not particularly relevant to how we approach coverage of the occupation and insurgency since his capture (which is to cover it objectively and as best we can within the dangers and logistical challenges of the situation, because democracies, unlike Saddams dictatorship, are supposed to be open to scrutiny). I can understand however the view expressed by a couple of respondents that if the US media was prepared to show the sniper killings of US soldiers, then why not the execution of Saddam? (Unlike with the beheadings cases, we did not have a lot of television news editors around the world demanding we show the instant of Saddam&#8217;s death, as verification was not the major issue).</p>
<p>Generally however, your comments have reinforced to me that we should wherever possible, provide all the relevant material we can to viewers (with warnings where necessary about graphic content), leaving it to their judgment as to what to conclude from it. That by necessity means sailing very close to what some would see the line of taste and decency, and maybe across it on occasion too (although it is also clear there is no one line or one correct decision in these matters). I would rather occasionally however put out material that is disquieting, because war and war imagery by definition is disquieting, than be too willing to edit something out and therefore deny potentially important information to the public.</p>
<p>John Clarke<br />
News Editor<br />
Reuters Television</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91404</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91404</guid>
		<description>I think media should not be censored.  I believe that as a journalist your job and obligation to society is to deliver news with as little bias as possible so that the public can derive their own truth.  Media has become so censored and bias it is hard for an educated person who knows this to even keep up.  I don't think anyone wants to read/watch the news so that the station or its sponsors can influence their opinions on us.  It is supposed to be informative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think media should not be censored.  I believe that as a journalist your job and obligation to society is to deliver news with as little bias as possible so that the public can derive their own truth.  Media has become so censored and bias it is hard for an educated person who knows this to even keep up.  I don&#8217;t think anyone wants to read/watch the news so that the station or its sponsors can influence their opinions on us.  It is supposed to be informative.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Francois</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91397</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91397</guid>
		<description>Editing is censorship in my opinion. However, as you well mention in your article, editing graphic imagery after verification (ex. "are there indeed civilian casualties?"), should be left to the reporter's good taste and discretion, as long as it does not take away from the truth. 
It is important to report the truth. We the public are and have been continuously lied to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editing is censorship in my opinion. However, as you well mention in your article, editing graphic imagery after verification (ex. &#8220;are there indeed civilian casualties?&#8221;), should be left to the reporter&#8217;s good taste and discretion, as long as it does not take away from the truth.<br />
It is important to report the truth. We the public are and have been continuously lied to.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91287</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 06:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/01/11/graphic-images-how-far-is-too-far/#comment-91287</guid>
		<description>Fox News posted a link to the unedited execution on their website. Conservatives went crazy with outrage when Janet Jackson bared her breast on national television, but an execution is apparently OK for all to see. That's American puritan logic for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox News posted a link to the unedited execution on their website. Conservatives went crazy with outrage when Janet Jackson bared her breast on national television, but an execution is apparently OK for all to see. That&#8217;s American puritan logic for you.</p>
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