Comments on: Why we are taking heat in Venezuela http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/ Our editors & readers talk Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:50:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Reuters Rues Its Referendum: High Standards and High-Level Hearsay « The New Market Machines http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-333472 Reuters Rues Its Referendum: High Standards and High-Level Hearsay « The New Market Machines Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:20:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-333472 [...] Why we are taking heat in Venezuela: The Web log of the Reuters Editors explains how it, too, called the Venezuelan referendum wrong. [...] […] Why we are taking heat in Venezuela: The Web log of the Reuters Editors explains how it, too, called the Venezuelan referendum wrong. […]

]]> By: Mehregan http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-333448 Mehregan Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:04:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-333448 Dear sir I am translator working for an english newspaper in a non-english speakig country. I rad your article, while I apreciated the conyents of yor analyzes, I was astonished by your style of writting, which is absolutly unique and fantastic. I looked for the idiom of Taking Heat bu never could find a defenition for it in any dictionary. It is of yor kindness to expain me about the title of yor article. Regards mehregan Dear sir

I am translator working for an english newspaper in a non-english speakig country.
I rad your article, while I apreciated the conyents of yor analyzes, I was astonished by your style of writting, which is absolutly unique and fantastic.
I looked for the idiom of Taking Heat bu never could find a defenition for it in any dictionary.
It is of yor kindness to expain me about the title of yor article.
Regards
mehregan

]]> By: Cort Greene http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332688 Cort Greene Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:01:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332688 Reuters is being used as part of the whole plan of "4th generation warfare" against the Bolivarian revolution in Venezuela. Cyberwarfare, media disinformation and such have been going on against Chavez since 1998 and we will find a way to counter act against it soon. Reuters should leave Venezuela along with the rest of the capitalist cabal, while they can. Reuters is being used as part of the whole plan of “4th generation warfare” against the Bolivarian revolution in Venezuela.

Cyberwarfare, media disinformation and such have been going on against Chavez since 1998 and we will find a way to counter act against it soon.

Reuters should leave Venezuela along with the rest of the capitalist cabal, while they can.

]]> By: Chui http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332634 Chui Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:13:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332634 The heat in Venezuela is relative to the hot air that emits from the Bush Administration and the perverse ideology of inequality and rights only of the conservative republican kind and their cohorts with the same modus operandi. The new currency is oil. Venezuela has it and we have to pay the inflated price and the structure of the flawed economical system that we have created. It is there glaring us in the face, but our own dysfunctional mentality ingrained by the rotten to the core politicians and communal denial fails to either admit or see it. The 64 dollar question that non of these gurus wants to answer is that if great system of economic was so good and viable then why all these new theories, formulas, more variable, options, adjustments, rate changes, money controls that the bean counters keep on introducing too often. The basic of credit and debt balance is being ignored. Simple solution is to remove the megalomaniac, compulsive-obsessive, sociopath, with his divine religious mandate and being the messenger of his god the herr Mr. MBA President, responsible for this mess from office for the country and the world to move on. That is a no brainer. The heat in Venezuela is relative to the hot air that emits from the Bush Administration and the perverse ideology of inequality and rights only of the conservative republican kind and their cohorts with the same modus operandi. The new currency is oil. Venezuela has it and we have to pay the inflated price and the structure of the flawed economical system that we have created. It is there glaring us in the face, but our own dysfunctional mentality ingrained by the rotten to the core politicians and communal denial fails to either admit or see it.

The 64 dollar question that non of these gurus wants to answer is that if great system of economic was so good and viable then why all these new theories, formulas, more variable, options, adjustments, rate changes, money controls that the bean counters keep on introducing too often. The basic of credit and debt balance is being ignored.

Simple solution is to remove the megalomaniac, compulsive-obsessive, sociopath, with his divine religious mandate and being the messenger of his god the herr Mr. MBA President, responsible for this mess from office for the country and the world to move on. That is a no brainer.

]]> By: Jaime Requena http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332631 Jaime Requena Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:25:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332631 Little can be said after Ambassador Diego Arria's devastating comments on the highly unethical behavior of Reuters journalists in covering the Constitutional Referendum in Venezuela last week, and the terrible consequences that our society could had faced with the active aid of Reuters news falsification. A remake of a score well known down here. Reuters journalists must have been aware that in the presidential elections of 2006 a poorly reputed news service (TeleSUR) had done exactly the same. For jumping the gun they were highly criticized and if the journalist for such illegal action did not end in jail, it was, precisely, because they were on the government payroll. It is very difficult to think that experienced journalists forgot that and but worst, that they can be so easily mislead. Did them not know that all polls and political signs indicated that almost surely the government was going to be defeated that day? I urge the editors to act beyond the simple sorry of Sean Maguire and reveal the true nature of what happened that day. It is necessary to preserve ethical values to inquire, to look more closely into the matter and give the reader a more credible explanation. Otherwise, I am afraid that on the eyes of the Venezuelan readers, your credibility will be null in the future. Little can be said after Ambassador Diego Arria’s devastating comments on the highly unethical behavior of Reuters journalists in covering the Constitutional Referendum in Venezuela last week, and the terrible consequences that our society could had faced with the active aid of Reuters news falsification. A remake of a score well known down here. Reuters journalists must have been aware that in the presidential elections of 2006 a poorly reputed news service (TeleSUR) had done exactly the same. For jumping the gun they were highly criticized and if the journalist for such illegal action did not end in jail, it was, precisely, because they were on the government payroll. It is very difficult to think that experienced journalists forgot that and but worst, that they can be so easily mislead. Did them not know that all polls and political signs indicated that almost surely the government was going to be defeated that day? I urge the editors to act beyond the simple sorry of Sean Maguire and reveal the true nature of what happened that day. It is necessary to preserve ethical values to inquire, to look more closely into the matter and give the reader a more credible explanation. Otherwise, I am afraid that on the eyes of the Venezuelan readers, your credibility will be null in the future.

]]> By: Jean-Marc http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332629 Jean-Marc Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:31:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332629 The Reuters blunder wrt the Venezuelan Referendum raises a broader concern; who are the journalists responsible for shaping the world's public opinion? what is their level of academic credentials? their personal political inclinations ? how versed are they into the local politics and issues? how much history do they know? how many are we talking about? My personal experience tells me that the US public opinion on Venezuela is based on the reports of no more than a handful reporters and regular contributors. Is this sufficient to give the public a fair unbiased opinion? what happens when some of these unfortunately biased reports are circulated in more than one news outlet (i.e. NYT + NPR)? What processes can be put in place that will ensure that the goals of balance and fairness is met without interfering with the freedom of speech? The Reuters blunder wrt the Venezuelan Referendum raises a broader concern; who are the journalists responsible for shaping the world’s public opinion? what is their level of academic credentials? their personal political inclinations ? how versed are they into the local politics and issues? how much history do they know? how many are we talking about?

My personal experience tells me that the US public opinion on Venezuela is based on the reports of no more than a handful reporters and regular contributors. Is this sufficient to give the public a fair unbiased opinion? what happens when some of these unfortunately biased reports are circulated in more than one news outlet (i.e. NYT + NPR)?

What processes can be put in place that will ensure that the goals of balance and fairness is met without interfering with the freedom of speech?

]]> By: Maigualida Lopez http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332628 Maigualida Lopez Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:14:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332628 I just could not believe what Reuters were doing. Your explanation about these facts is irrelevant, I thought you are a very serious news agency who verify the sources and ponder situations mpre resposibly. Next time I will not search Reuters as a reliable source of news. I just could not believe what Reuters were doing.
Your explanation about these facts is irrelevant, I thought you are a very serious news agency who verify the sources and ponder situations mpre resposibly.
Next time I will not search Reuters as a reliable source of news.

]]> By: Manuel Castillo http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332624 Manuel Castillo Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:30:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332624 These two facts make a great statement: 1) "...sources were impeccable, including three cabinet ministers who had been correct in the past and who cited exit polls and early returns" 2) "We also made strenuous efforts to get the opposition’s point of view. But for a couple of hours we were unable to get them to comment" If you didn't have comments from the opposition side, how and why did Reuters decide to publish the story as it was? Basically, the "excuse" is that the government sources were important and reliable, but the opposition's were not. Otherwise, Reuters would wait. This shows no ethics and professionalism, only the need to broadcast "breaking news" that never happened, and collect the money. I could see this coming from Chavez's media, not Reuters. These two facts make a great statement:

1) “…sources were impeccable, including three cabinet ministers who had been correct in the past and who cited exit polls and early returns”

2) “We also made strenuous efforts to get the opposition’s point of view. But for a couple of hours we were unable to get them to comment”

If you didn’t have comments from the opposition side, how and why did Reuters decide to publish the story as it was? Basically, the “excuse” is that the government sources were important and reliable, but the opposition’s were not. Otherwise, Reuters would wait.

This shows no ethics and professionalism, only the need to broadcast “breaking news” that never happened, and collect the money.

I could see this coming from Chavez’s media, not Reuters.

]]> By: Carlos Roman Chalbaud http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332623 Carlos Roman Chalbaud Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:25:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332623 Thank you for contacting Reuters. Your query has been received and is being processed by our team of Webmasters. If you would like to update your query, please do so by replying to this e-mail. Question Reference #071203-000040 --------------------------------------------------------------- Summary: Shameless mistake of you Guys!...Venezuelan referendum Product Level 1: Editorial and News Product Level 2: Corrections Date Created: 03 12 2007 01:31 AM Last Updated: 03 12 2007 01:31 AM Status: Escalated Country: Other Discussion Thread --------------------------------------------------------------- Customer - 03 12 2007 01:31 AM How much money the Venezuela govt pay you guys to keep a huge lie from 1800 Venezuelan time until now about Chavez winning the referendum in my country? Shame on you! Carlos R Chalbaud Venezuelan Journalist p.s. the correct headline is TO CLOSE TO CALL! Auto-Response - 03 12 2007 01:31 AM Dear Reader, Thank you for contacting Reuters with your comments and feedback. Your comments have been passed on to our editorial team. Thank you for contacting Reuters. Your query has been received and is
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Question Reference #071203-000040
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Summary: Shameless mistake of you Guys!…Venezuelan
referendum
Product Level 1: Editorial and News
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Date Created: 03 12 2007 01:31 AM
Last Updated: 03 12 2007 01:31 AM
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Customer - 03 12 2007 01:31 AM
How much money the Venezuela govt pay you guys to keep a huge lie from 1800 Venezuelan time until now about Chavez winning the referendum in my country?
Shame on you!
Carlos R Chalbaud
Venezuelan Journalist

p.s. the correct headline is TO CLOSE TO CALL!

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]]> By: Carlos Roman Chalbaud http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332622 Carlos Roman Chalbaud Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:24:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-editors/2007/12/05/why-we-are-taking-heat-in-venezuela/#comment-332622 Question Reference #071202-000054 --------------------------------------------------------------- Summary: Bias Headline Venezuela Referendum Urgent Correction Product Level 1: Editorial and News Product Level 2: Corrections Date Created: 02 12 2007 11:14 PM Last Updated: 02 12 2007 11:14 PM Status: Escalated Country: Other Discussion Thread --------------------------------------------------------------- Customer - 02 12 2007 11:14 PM Sirs at Reuters: Seems that you are confirming that Mr Chavez have won the referendum today. The exit polls that your are using for your history have been used by the goverment to portrait their position. Please you should refrase your headline and add in the first paragraph that oposition is contending those numbers Try no to portrait a result that does not exist yet Auto-Response - 02 12 2007 11:14 PM Dear Reader, Thank you for contacting Reuters with your comments and feedback. Your comments have been passed on to our editorial team. We appreciate reader feedback, and all e-mails to Reuters.com are read by a senior editor. Please note that due to the huge volume of e-mails sent to the Editors daily, we may be unable to provide a personal response. However, we take your compliments, comments and criticisms very seriously, and we invite you to see what some readers are thinking on our Reader Feedback Page. We appreciate your feedback and we hope that you continue to use and enjoy the Reuters website. Kind regards Reuters Editors Question Reference #071202-000054
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Summary: Bias Headline Venezuela Referendum Urgent
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Customer - 02 12 2007 11:14 PM
Sirs at Reuters: Seems that you are confirming that Mr Chavez have won the referendum today. The exit polls that your are using for your history have been used by the goverment to portrait their position.
Please you should refrase your headline and add in the first paragraph that oposition is contending those numbers

Try no to portrait a result that does not exist yet

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