Comments on: Is college worth it? Fri, 05 Dec 2014 11:27:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: Amchoudini10 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:03:25 +0000 I am going to be attending a private university in California. My major is nursing and by the time I am done I will be around 100 to 140 thousand dollars in debt. I know nursing is a great major, but is my debt worth it?

By: lauralopez Tue, 13 Mar 2012 04:54:29 +0000 Not getting a college education because it’s too expensive isn’t really a choice. We all know that a college education has far more advantages and can do far more to make your life financially secure than a high school diploma. Like one guy commented here: both his kids are working today despite the recession only because they hold college degrees. I think online graduate degree programs make a lot of sense in this type of economy. You can work full-time as you study to earn a degree. Many online degrees are well-reputed and as long as you earn a degree through an accredited college, it will hold value as you seek better job prospects for yourself.

By: 0919 Sun, 01 Jan 2012 20:58:47 +0000 Why are you going to college? If your sole or main purpose is to make lots of money, then you need to re-think your plan. The undergraduate years are not vocational or pre-professional; they are for learning about ideas. Elitist? Probably. But that’s why only a small percent of students attending college today should be there in the first place. Learn a skilled trade and you’ll make lots of money. Go to a business school and become a sales rep. You’ll earn a good salary and won’t saddle yourself with debt. Don’t blame college tuition and the fat loan you took out for the fact that you shouldn’t have attended an institution of higher learning when you weren’t interested in what it had to offer in the first place.

By: haveyouseenmy Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:08:03 +0000 Truth is, the whole concept of college has gotten so out of whack. let me see if I get this right… have parents spend years saving hard earned money to pay for a 17 year old kid to travel to some strange city to hang out with other kids that are equally as lost.
I loved my college expereince but I saw WAY TOO MANY kids party their butts off. I remembered at a young age saying to myself I cannot responsible send my kids to a 4 year school without having them learn about the real world first. Besides, college is meant to send you off into life with your business secured.. ya right.. these kids don’t even know what they like yet.
my point is this… if you have a kid who is serious about college and has a good general direction, start them off as an intern. Then see what they think. if it’s a go, then by all means, pay for school if you’re able to do so.

By: PeterMelzer Sun, 25 Sep 2011 01:35:18 +0000 Good public schools deliver most bang for the buck, at least for in-state students.

Read more about the return on investment here: 7/value-of-education-economically.html

By: SGinOR Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:17:49 +0000 My problem isn’t with higher ed – it’s with the business of higher ed. And the fact we’re telling people who choose not to go through the college process that they have no value. I think there is a place for people who just want to learn about something and then go do it. The secret that degree proponents don’t want to talk about is that most people don’t go to college to learn and be better contributors to society. They go to college to make more money – period. Otherwise, all the HS seniors that say they’re going on to be marine biologists or electrical engineers wouldn’t be coming out of college with art history or marketing degrees – and in debt for 6+ figures. And the bazillion coveted MBA’s would be watching out for their economy and their society as well as their personal bank balances. Bottom line is that our charge is to prepare the next crop – not take everything we can get in our pockets. I think college stresses “I got mine – sucks to be you” instead of how can I do what I love to do, take what I need, and contribute at the same time.

By: uniquestar.7 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:26:27 +0000 How come nobody thinks of one thing that really makes sense? Give the students interest-free loans. That will make it much much easier for students to pay them back. Ta-da! Solution!

By: alconnelly Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:50:49 +0000 We have to scrap the idea that everybody should go to college. Some people are simlpy incapable of a real college education. Some have talents that are not suitable for college academics. Examples:
– basketball & football players in effect are trained by colleges at the expense of We The People. If the NBA or NFL wants a training camp let them pay for it
– technical & medical people need advanced education focused on their career choices, they have to suffer through a lot classes that are simply irrelevent.
– Furthermore much of the academic staff has much less than a 100% teaching load. Let’s cut the overhead here and put idling academics to work. — AND CUT COSTS.

By: 7trickpony Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:44:46 +0000 Neither of the Wright brothers had a college degree,yet they designed and built their own wind-tunnel as well as completing the first heavier-than-air powered & piloted aeroplane flight.It occurred little more than a week after Professor Langleys’ 2nd unsucessful attempt.At the time Professor Langley was an internationally renowned scientist and head of the Smithsonian Institute in Washington.The Wright brothers were bicycle mechanics who pursued aeronautics in their spare time.Moral of the story:superior qualifications aren’t always necessary.

By: Adam_S Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:38:24 +0000 The short answer: YES, college is worth it.

The longer answer: YES, but it depends on where you go.

One of my primary tasks at work now is analyzing labor market data, and the numbers don’t lie, people.

Without a college degree, you have few options; you’re more or less relegated to hoping you have enough technical skill to out compete someone who went to college for a job, or doing a sales job. Sales jobs are mostly an unending pressure cooker. Enjoy that one as long as the lining of your stomach lasts.

Beyond just the credential (the direct object), college grads also signal things indirectly to employers. Most of all, it signals ambition and willingness to get ahead. Honestly, when I meet people in my line of work these days without a college degree, I don’t look at them and marvel at their ability to get ahead, though I do think about it. My internal dialogue always begins with “why not?”

College graduates, on average (again, I’m not making this up, it’s data, it’s out there, look for it) earn more money than their peers without college degrees. Such that, it’s well worth the investment you made and debt you went into, ten years down the road. They also, due to whatever is in the water in college, tend to live longer, prosper more, are more socially aware people, are happier, and live what you’d call “fuller” lives.

I’m not saying that everyone needs a 4 year BA, it could be a 2 year tech degree, or 3 year, or 1 year. Point is, the idea that you can ‘make it’ after high school without a college degree is akin to the kid from a small town in rural [state] thinking he’s got a real shot at the NFL because he captained the varsity football team. Yeah, there’s a chance. It’s not pretty. But yeah, it exists.

The problem here is that the labor market obfuscates what it really values regarding college. It values the degree, to some level, basically in that it makes you look like a better candidate than someone who doesn’t have a degree, all other things equal.

What it does not tell you is that there are types of degrees it values more highly than others. There aren’t many of them, most of them involve math, and they are often times boring (be real, how many 19 year olds LOVE accounting when they’re 19?), yet they pay handsome dividends by age 30. It does not tell you this because the labor market expects you’ll be smart enough to figure this out on your own.

Most of us, myself included (Humanities triple major over here), don’t realize this until it’s too late. I toiled for a few years, realized my mistake, and paid handsomely to obtain a graduate degree that included a heavy dose of quantitative training. I now have a job I love, and my debts will be paid off in ten years. Bummer I’ll be 40 then, not 32.

People need to stop thinking, as others have said above me, that a 4 year degree in [major] is going to provide them the pathway to a job. Be real. For nearly all humanities, and many social sciences, there simply aren’t jobs for those of us who only have a BA. Period. They aren’t here now, and they won’t be here in 10 years, so get over it. Study something either as a major or minor with real world applicability.

And, if you’ve got to borrow 50K in total to obtain a BA, you’re at the wrong school. Either go get higher SAT/ACT scores, find a school that will give you more money, or find a cheaper school. Our labor market rewards those with the credential, but is blind to what we go through to get said credential. Be wise. Nobody is going to do it for you.