What the Occupy Wall Street crowd should be saying

October 10, 2011

A demonstrator from the Occupy Wall Street campaign stands with a dollar taped over his mouth as he stands in Zucotti Park near the financial district of New York September 30, 2011. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson Are the thousands who have taken to the streets in the “Occupy Wall Street” (OWS) protests a bunch of anarchistic slackers or do they have a point?

If they’re protesting their personal financial situations or prospects for the American Dream, they have plenty to howl about, but the “99 percent” crowds could use some message management.

When I recently visited the Chicago OWS spin-off  in front of the Federal Reserve Bank, they were decrying everything from predator drones to corporations in general.  There were fewer than 100 people there, although their theme was similar to the New York demonstrations.

Instead of yelling at people ensconced behind financial district edifices, though, protesters could be making some more constructive demands. I’d like to humbly offer a few suggestions:

  • Demand that big banks give ordinary citizens the same rates they receive from the Federal Reserve on loans. Borrowers can’t re-negotiate their college loans the way a big corporation or bank can, because they have access to interest rates that are nearly zero. Moreover, students can’t consolidate high-rate private loans with lower-rate federal borrowing, so the plums of high finance are out of their reach. Those who graduated from college may be staring down decades of paying off debt — an average of nearly $23,000 per student; those with professional degrees are wincing at six-figure burdens.
  • Demand that Congress permit regular folks to discharge student debt in bankruptcy. It’s somewhat of a consolation that graduates can get lower payments based on sparse income or employment if they have federal loans, but they still have to repay those loans. If they file for bankruptcy, they can’t discharge those debts, which are like albatrosses. Not so with the megabanks, who not only received a multi-trillion-dollar bailout, but got the U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve to buy their bad debt and toxic securities. There’s a solid reason why the delinquency rate for student loans is almost as high as credit cards.
  • Demand that Congress pass a stimulus plan to create infrastructure, education, research and clean energy jobs instead of investing in two wars that three-quarters of the American electorate thinks are senseless. If the job market were robust, none of these protesters would have to worry. Like previous generations, they could work, pay off their debts and buy things like appliances, furniture and homes. They could afford to have children and provide them decent educations. That was the American Dream. The younger generation is not getting the job opportunities their parents or grandparents had. They are faced with average 15 percent unemployment. It’s much higher for minorities. Even if they can get a job, wages are depressed due to the recession and many are underemployed, working several jobs or are part-timers.
  • Instead of targeting financial districts, focus on specific congressmen and senators blocking financial/bankruptcy reform and job creation.

Unless more people get in the face of politicians, one thing is certain: it will be continue to be a raw deal for the middle class. Now is the time for the protesters to take their demonstrations out of financial districts and into the offices of their elected representatives. All of this reminds me of when Ralph Waldo Emerson visited Henry David Thoreau in jail, who was imprisoned for not paying a poll tax. Emerson asked his friend why he was there. “Why are you not here?” Thoreau replied. Maybe we’re not quite on the streets today in spirit, but most of us were there some time ago in personal financial solidarity — whether we choose to admit it or not.


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does protest participation by politicians and celebrities lessen the substance and credibility of the occupy movement? 

Posted by jenniferp | Report as abusive

Finally, you got it right,..especially on “Student Loans”. I’m 54 and still burdened with over $100,000.00 in student loans, that amount to over $2400. per month. I have chosen to stay in school and take classes at Community colleges every semester to deferr my loans, as they cannot be discharged through bankruptcy. I currently make around $3000.00 per month at a job that is getting ready to do another round of layoffs. Thank God I can deferr my loans through taking classes at a community college which cost me about $300.00 every 4-6 months!!! No jobs out there for Middle to older citizens.

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Posted by rwinston87 | Report as abusive

The student loan burden is the cruelest cut of all. Even if you wanted to launch into a decent career, you’d be embarking on the American Dream with one hand tied behind your back.

Posted by johnwasik | Report as abusive

I don’t know that you are any way near the mark. All of this comes from problems with their origin in “Free Trade”. As I see it, “Free Trade” on the macro level is very similar to outsourcing [off-shoring] on the micro level. If I could sum up what I have seen in industry over the last 15 years or so, I would define outsourcing as a one-time benefit [payoff] that costs one more in the long run than it saves in the short run. Of course through corporate culture and a lack of long-term accountability, outsourcing is often the right decision for the decision makers because they are judged by shareholders on the short-term and not by stake-holders on the long term. The governance model is broken.

With “Free Trade”, it was the same thing, but on the macro level. Sure it had its purpose. Business could reduce cost through labor arbitration by giving your job to some guy in a mud hut somewhere. From a policy perspective, exporting jobs did a lot to help stabilize the world, and gave us some short-term political benefits. In a post-WWII, domino effect world, it all made sense, but now we are simply exporting opportunity we no longer have in surplus. …and the recipients are no longer to some nice men in mud huts. We are building empires who do rightly have their own interests at heart. Do we believe they will be benevolent? What happens when they eventually need a limited resource we have and we can no longer dominate them militarily? Under status quo, that day is coming.

So why is “Free Trade” something that no one is willing to talk about? Trade policy is a viable political tool, and one we could be using use to retain or regain opportunity. Our continued unwillingness to even consider that “Free Trade” isn’t free proves that corporations and foreign countries truly own this government. The government is the referee; the government defines the rules of the game which corporations will always optimize for their own benefit; so at the root of this problem lies the government. Wall Street is not a part of the root problem; Wall Street is a symptom. Fix the problem.

Posted by fodder | Report as abusive

Are you kidding

A certain percentage of the population is content:
with wars “over there”
with 15 trillion debt
with corporate personhood
.001 of 1% that actually dictate policies here and around the world
NAFTA/CAFTA=cause of our immigration issues as well as other global agreements
mediocre education ie. they do not educate us in high school or university they train us for a job and how to be obedient workers
collusion of wall st/lobbyist with our government
fractional banking
socialized losses and privatized profits
with their life

Another percentage is not and more and more people are starting to realize that we only have our collective apathy and consent to blame for these problems. It is up to us what we do about it, because the present model of discourse does not work for the majority of people in the US as well as the world. (Do you see those autocrats/dictators being ousted in the middle east? Yeah, we(us gov) backed those guys to keep their people down and allow multinational corporations into their countries to rape them for profits. I suggest taking a look at what is going on in Africa)

Bottom line is, people will either stay apathetic and watch the status quo or a new model will be created by the people.

It’s not the end of the world. Everything that was once, comes to an end and out of that end will come something new.


Posted by workingforus | Report as abusive

I find it hillarious that this group of anarchists rail against the tea partys peaceful gatherings/rallies, and label them racist and terrorists, and then in an attempt to give credibility to their disruptive and senseless protest without direction, to the Tea Party.

This is what we can look forward to in the leaders of the future. We are paying the price for having a congress full of former hippies and sixties activists. This is what socialism looks like.

Posted by Surfman | Report as abusive

You don’t seem to get it. There are no demands for a very good reason. The real demand is “We want your heads”.

Welcome to the age of instant everything. What is happening now the world over is instant revolution. It’s not just what I think. The cartoons in the papers yesterday show the protesters building a guillotine.

Posted by Tweatyleak | Report as abusive

You can’t legislate human nature and every good economic practice or form of regulatory government will have some measure of a bad affect. Nature hedges its bets by giving birth to many, but it will always reward the few. Every single historical example of a national shift toward full-fledged socialism ended in autocratic oligarchy or despotism. A completely unregulated market would have the same exact result…only it would take a little longer to become apparent. Trying to create utopia and prevent dystopia is like trying to acknowledge “up” while denying “down.”.

Posted by S2art | Report as abusive

A business owner working 140 hours a week, paying the same taxes as everyone else and eventually bringing a service or product to market isn’t a fair share? Heck no, it’s way more than most people ever do. I pay the same tax rate as everyone else but work 3 times more than they do, to give people access to the best and newest products in the world. I have to pay and navigate through costly and time consuming fees, redundant and irrelevent licenses just to generate fees and a dictated labor wage (not what I am able to pay employees but whay some politicians say I have to pay which keeps me from being able to hire employees because they can say what they want if I don’t have that amount of money I can’t hire more people). Making it so only the rich can do business and those without deep pockets never get a fair start. And now I am being told I’m not paying a fair share? That I owe them more! That I owe Barrack Obama, Harry Reid and some spoiled brats who do nothing for anyone else camping out telling me I owe them money? What fair share is Harry Reid talking about? New suits for him and his cronies? Higher wage for Senators? More million dollar buses made in Canada for Obama to campaign around the country?

What about most of the people who are only working 40 hours per week doing only what they are told by a boss and nothing more and collecting their paycheck while paying the same taxes and demanding more more more, never taking a sole burden to bring goods or services to market, and then going out buying houses they can’t afford to sustain a lifestyle they never earned to then demand a bailout by others who still have some of their money left to pay taxes? The same people who do nothing to save anyone else’s jobs, yet when their jobs are on the line they scream to everyone for help and pretend it is an American issue to only support their own union. They say they deserve more, yet aren’t willing to pay other Americans a higher wage by buying more expensive “made in America” goods. I see them all the time shopping at China piggy banks Walmart and Target for the cheaper China knockoffs… yet they rally to raise the prices of labor in this country and won’t pay it when the market reflects their rally call. Yet they continue to want more and more for their own jobs. YOU made the bad judgement call to buy a $75,000 house for $280,000 (I know, I was calling people on it 7 years ago) and now YOU act surprised and want something done about it? You will get drug out of your house kicking and screaming and you will get bad credit or you will pay it. That’s the system you voted for. You voted for politicians to give you higher minimum wages. Time and time again until houses were costing 3 times what they were worth, and bread costs $5 and coffee $5 and now you have a problem and want to hatefully attack others because you got what you wanted? Which anyone with any sense told you all along was going to be a failure? Then you support Bill Clinton forcing banks to merge by taking on risky CRA (Community Reinvetment Act) loans before they could merge and when they all default the entire financial industry implodes?

Reap it. VOTER GREED is what got you where you are now. And all of a sudden you don’t like what you made people give you? There isn’t a thing you can do about it. You are just like the OPEC cartels who can vote to fix prices all they want when times are rolling on manipulative markets but when the economy collapses to the truth there isn’t a thing they can do about falling oil prices. Their time has come to reap what they sew. The greed and the manipulations. Just as now your time has come to reap what you sew. You voted for politicians to lie to you and tell you what you wanted to hear instead of telling you the truth. You hatefully attacked and defamed people who were talking about the truth and you endorsed politicians to manipulate the markets for your greedy benefit. You demanded a higher minimum wage, which then just made all goods and services and houses more expensive. You demanded the housing market be kept artificially high so your home doesn’t return to its real value. But the system can only be manipulated for so long until the truth comes down on top of you and drags you out. You will be foreclosed. You will be dragged out. You will be out of a job. After all, this is what you have been voting for over the last 30 years.

Posted by cjjn | Report as abusive

The lack of “message” as you put it, seems to have fired your imagination to make your own list… Good for you. Your list is nice but not my list…. See how that works? My message includes things like no-bid pentagon contracts, Oil subsidies and tax dollars pouring into offshore Companies (Such as Halliburton in Dubai) that have no responsibility to the United States laws or taxes…

You are mistaken to think that sweetening the student loan situation will stop this… But sure, Promote that… every little bit helps.

Posted by Tracy–lee | Report as abusive

Have you read their doctrine. Obviously not. You might want to educate yourself before you say they need help figuring out what they stand for.

Posted by minipaws | Report as abusive

Questions: Is it the banks fault you took out student loans? A person who decided not to go to college needs to pick up your slack and pay for your bad investment decision?

Posted by DavidS95 | Report as abusive

Writer, you are the 99 % and you just contributed to the discussion. Good job. What seems to be missed by the general public is that the demands are their own. What are your demands? How do you summate the demands of the entire segment that is pretty much everyone except, well…1%. I think the whole point is people are pissed off and their numbers are growing by the day.

Posted by roguetrader11 | Report as abusive

DavidS95 – I’m so sick of people like you telling everyone who falls on hard times and needs a little help that it’s their own fault. Sometimes things just happen. I hope you and everyone like you contracts an incurable testicular cancer, gets dropped by your insurance and loses your job because you don’t have a union rep to go to bat for you so I can turn around and tell you all “Why should I have to pay for your bad decisions?”

Posted by 4ngry4merican | Report as abusive

Next thing you know, they will want Wall Str people to pay all of America’s individual debt out of the pocket…
If a point needs to be made it is not at New York Wall Str area where hard working people spend over 11 hours a days to raise the capital of investors/their banks and burden the stress of losing capital. It is at DC where senators that went to ivy league schools with their daddy’s donations and understand nothing about the world. They make decisions based on what little they know and whatever their party or the lobby that gives financial support asks for.

Posted by Yamdizzle | Report as abusive

DavidS95: It is the banks fault when they get free federal capital and sell them to students at skyhigh rates.

Posted by kasparlau | Report as abusive

I do not think the real nature of these protests all over the world is sinking in yet.
This is not about specific demands, that would be easy, then politicians, the present elite could react, give some peanuts to quiet the protesters, and then everybody goes home, and can continue where we left off.
No these protests and the following ones are about changing the whole system, to start rebuilding humanity and all its institutions from politics to economy, from education to science, etc.
Our present polarized, profit and competition driven system has outlived itself and is unsuitable for the global, mutual, interdependent world we exist in now. This is what these young people feel now, even if they cannot put all this precisely into words.
The question is how long it takes for the present “leaders” to recognize and admit that they have no answers to the growing crisis, and themselves to accept that we need to change the foundations.

Posted by ZGHerm | Report as abusive

You are mistaken. The system will simply absorb and smother the movement. You write, “Now is the time for the protesters to take their demonstrations out of financial districts and into the offices of their elected representatives.” What happens in the offices of our elected representatives is a large part of what these protests are about. In a political system that increasingly serves corporate interests and neglects individual interests a nascent and emotional uprising will be better served trying to incorporate all the angry and disaffected people. A great majority of this country knows they are getting shafted, in whatever way, but lack the means to articulate the impossibility of their various situations.
Looks to me like capitalism is an extremely democratic system while the desires of individual corporations run contrary to both Capitalism and representative Democracy; even as corporations claim to somehow inherently embody both. That’s not funy.

Posted by jtrealfunny | Report as abusive

These sit in protests do not have a cogent message or organized process. The general theme of take from the rich and give to the poor (out of work, or not wanting to work) is more communism(socialist) and removes from the debate any discussion of personal responsibiity. School janitors bought 300K houses and lost them, how could they be surprised? I agree that the banks owe individuals and small businesses the opportinity to have access to capital, better rates, the option to renegotiate loans and such. Instead of protesting Wall Street, why not protest in front of BOA, Mellon Bank, Chase, and the other big boys who are at the heart of the problem and unwilling to help in the solution.

Posted by dragonass | Report as abusive

Anything but take responsibility for your own actions, right John?

The banks didn’t act responsibly, that’s for sure, so why should we? That’s your attitude.

Look where it got the banks.

Look where bank failure and bank subsidy got all the rest of us.

But since what they did wrong, we should all do wrong, according to you. After all, it’s only fair.

When society falls apart because no one is any longer responsible for anything, I guess you will still be playing the blame game and the game of “Hey, you cheated, so I should be able to TOO!”

Have fun.

Posted by NewsLady | Report as abusive

ZGHerm is absolutely right. The fact that the OWS protests do not have narrowly defined demands or goals is arguably their greatest strength, and accounts for why they’ve lasted this long and continue to grow. If they did make specific demands at this point, first many of those protesting might not agree or be disappointed that their particular issue or concern is not being addressed.

Secondly, as ZGHerm states, the politicians and plutocrats who feel threatened by this movement could come together with a strategy to appease and bs the protesters enough to disrupt the momentum of the OWS protests only to find later that nothing much has changed.

No, this protest, this movement, needs this period of inviting all Americans–or at least 99% of them–to voice their grievances. There are just too many different problems that Americans are suffering from. It’s the way the ruling class, the plutocracy, has converted the American system to their advantage, primarily to make themselves wealthy, at the expense of the vast majority of Americans. We know that it’s not only hurting us on a personal or individual level, but that it’s also hurting our country as a whole. They are hurting our America.

Eventually, there will have to be an alchemic process that takes place that defines a direction we want to go in and changes to a system, a vision for America, that would better suit the ideals we want for ourselves and our children. Hopefully, we will take what has worked well for us in the past and meld that with a way forward into the 21 Century where we can compete in the world and have better lives for ourselves.

I think I can confidently say that one thing that will have to change is our political process and the role money plays in determining the laws that are passed or legislation that is snuffed out. I personally believe we’ll have to have public financing of our elections, but thanks to the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Citizens United case, we’ll have to add a new amendment to our Constitution. But this is exactly the kind of thing our Founding Fathers had in mind when they developed that amendment process. I feel confident that they’d approve.

Posted by doggydaddy | Report as abusive

I quote from their doctrine “Corporations should be highly limited in their ability to contribute to political campaigns no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media. This is to ensure that the politicians that are elected are loyal to the people and not to their corporate buyers.” They aren’t asking for freebies – read their doctrine. I am a 51 year old wealthy republican leaning independent and I support “Occupy Wall Street” because their doctrine makes complete sense.

Posted by minipaws | Report as abusive

Occupy Wall Street Tax Manifesto: Tax Speculative Profits at 80%!!

This should be the sole aim of OWS since it is the US short term capital gains, derivative and real estate low tax that are destroying capitalism. Investors, true capitalists, should rally behind these demonstrators and demand that the US tax code makes speculative trading way too expensive to pursue. Put a low tax rates of 28% of 10, 15 year holding periods for long term gains, but for something held under a year, let alone a day tax it at 80%.

You scoff, but look at the daily volume of the NYSE: nearly 80% is programmed trades!! That’s capitalism? Let’s not kid ourselves. It’s speculation.

The overwhelming abundance of derivatives, hedge funds, private equity is draining real investment resources from the US economy – therefore JOBS. Who do you think the banks are lending to these days? Not small businesses, but the hedge funds, quant traders, etc. And trying to regulate away speculation will never work as long as it is so profitable.

That’s why the central theme for Occupy Wall Street should be “TAX SPECULATIVE PROFITS AT 80%”

Posted by Acetracy | Report as abusive

Sorry, but once the movement settles on a particular message, it will provide lawmakers and financiers with a convenient means of ignoring them or attempting to appease them by offering a tenth of what they want. As it it, it’s making them uncomfortable.

The movement has no leaders. Once it does, it will have been co-opted, the way the conservative Republican establishment has co-opted the Tea Party.

This is not to say the movement doesn’t have a specific message. It does: economic injustice is rampant in America. Wall Street, the banks, and the politicians who enabled them tanked our economy. Then the politicians bailed out Wall Street and the banks while millions of ordinary working people were thrown out of work or forced into lower-paying positions even as they were being stuck with the bill. This was a crime.

I cannot speak for everyone in the movement, but I believe everyone has a general sense that the financial sector has too much influence in politics and must be brought to heel. Politicians who take money from them should be thrown out. Leaders who do not answer to the people are not fit to lead. And those who seek to influence government, for their own enrichment, and to the detriment of the common good, are not fit to conduct business in this society.

Posted by Fishrl | Report as abusive

If you think the financial sector has too much influence in politics, why don’t you blame the politicians.

Isn’t that the point of free market capitalism and economics? If the government is able to be bought, why woulnd’t you buy them it makes business sense.

It’s much akin to moving jobs to China or elsewhere, if it makes business sense, of course you’re going to outsource.

These are structural issues. Ge tmoney out of politics, reform tax code, regulatory environment and fix/update our infrastructure.

Make structural changes to make us competitive. Thse protestors have identified the problem, but have no idea of what the solutions are.

Furthermore, the fact they they are protesting against “the banksters” and wall street exemplifies just how blind they are. The banks are the scapegoat for the government. They have diverted blame quite successfully.

Not to mention that some of the counties who grossed the highest campaign contributions for Obama were from these same counties in New York. Obama has his hands tied, which foot does he want to shoot himself in?

Posted by jaham | Report as abusive

To the man pictured…go get a job and you might have more dollar bills to tape to yourself..

Posted by jaham | Report as abusive

John, nice attempt there, but it is clear that you are still stuck thinking in the box that the current power structure has created for you. This has nothing to do with imploring the powers that be to do something for us. Politicians do not represent us citizens and they do not answer to us. Wake up! They will not solve our problems, nor are they capable of throwing off their corporate handlers. We must sever that tie. It is up to us. Asking politicians to do something for us that clearly goes against the best interests of those who install them into office is utterly futile.

Posted by GFawkes | Report as abusive

I read today that they plan to protest at the homes of CEOs. Strange that they don’t protest at the homes of multimillion dollar sports stars or moviestars. Or should I say hypocritical?

Posted by moonhill | Report as abusive

I joined the protest in Occupy D.C. and this article could not be more off the mark.

First off, we’ve drafted statements and resolutions with specific policy demands since day 1. Furthermore, we shouldn’t even have to. It’s not our goddamn job to write the laws and make policy, that’s the policymakers’ job.

Our job is to make our grievances heard.
Our job is to be angry at the right people at the right time.
Our job is to make sure we are not ignored by being the biggest pain in the ass possible, by throwing ourselves upon the gears of the machine until it stops turning.

And the Occupation movement has done just that. The financial sector is correctly identified as the cause of many of our problems, and the impediment to their solutions.

Targeting specific politicians does nothing, it only muddles the message. We don’t care about individual congressmen and committees. The entire system is corrupt.

So here’s a suggestion for the author of this piece… You should be saying VERY, VERY LITTLE about what we should do until you join us in the streets and get to understand what this is all about.

Posted by Kni7es | Report as abusive

Go to law school, become a BK attorney, discharge your tuition, then make millions upon millions churning out BKs by the truck load. Shocking this is what passes as journalism. If you allowed people to file BK for student loans the system would collapse and only those with cash would be able to get a degree. Private lenders can no longer offer student loans per Obama. Talk about a stupid idea.

Posted by Flaguy123 | Report as abusive

The protestors are occupying the wrong street. They should be marching at Washington’s K Street.

Posted by SanPa | Report as abusive

You columnist are point of the 99%. Join the movement!

Posted by pmpcmall | Report as abusive

RE:To the man pictured…go get a job and you might have more dollar bills to tape to yourself..

When we win you’ll have more $$$$ in your pocket! Join us. Right now you’re getting screwed, paying more in taxes than 82 of the 500 richest companies in the world. Effectively defunding social services we all count on to make society more livable.

Posted by pmpcmall | Report as abusive

I wish someone would look into who is feeding all these folks, I don’t have enough money to quit my job and take a month to protest against a faceless “wall street” and “big banks”.

Posted by zotdoc | Report as abusive

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Posted by Robertla | Report as abusive

“Over the past 20 years, thanks in part to the
end of the Cold War and in part to new communications
technologies that fostered an integrated global supply
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Posted by Robertla | Report as abusive

The banks can’t give loans at the same rate as they receive the money from the Fed because they have to account for both the cost of inflation and risk of non-repayment. Although the irony is that they are creating inflation by creating the money out of thin air for the loan they are making.

The government backed student loans which caused huge inflated prices in education, giving students massive future obligations. I agree students should get the option of having their debt should be reduced or allow students to declare a special type of bankruptcy. However this should be on the condition that the federal govt. stops backing student loans, which would cause tuition prices to drop like a rock overnight. Students could then afford college on their own with some parental help and maybe a part time job.

What the protesters really should be asking for, and some of them are, is to abolish the Federal Reserve, end our overseas empire and follow the Constitution. Allow safety nets, but do it at the local or state level.

Posted by EndTheFED11 | Report as abusive

Excellent points, John! I agree with all of them. And they’ll all help considerably if they’re ever enacted.

However, the protests do have INHERENT value as well. For instance, they’ve created a worldwide dialogue; haven’t they?

Things often start, essentially, as street art, and they build from there. One person does interpretive dance as a way of attracting notice, another drills down on potential legislative remedies, another builds a good website, another provides a superb set of soundbites for the cameras, another just holds a sign and chants, another works from the inside, helping to shift the thinking within…”a thousand points of light”. Let them all beam. Together, this is where a difference will be made. A better world is coming.

Posted by JimCap | Report as abusive

“Demand that Congress pass a stimulus plan to create infrastructure, education, research and clean energy jobs instead of investing in two wars that three-quarters of the American electorate thinks are senseless…”

This kind of naive ‘Bureaucrats Can Tax, Borrow and Print Fiat Money’ out of our problem and No-One-Is-Responsible mentality is just typical of writers like Wasik who don’t understand and respect what it takes to produce real capital nor can they account for the constant Stimulus that Federal, State and municipalities have ALREADY been engaging for the last ten years.

It’s an incorrect to say our military misadventures are hogging the federal gov’ts vast revenues when 81% of our present budget is already spent on domestic programs.

The only stimulus that will turn our economy around is when these educated ‘occupiers’ stimulate their own ambition and imagination. The Pakistani guy who operates the food truck around my corner didn’t rely on Congressional Stimulus, get an expensive education or useless degree, or demand that someone give him a job; he gave himself a job.

Posted by PerseusWong | Report as abusive