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		<title>By: jerry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1796</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it said banks or gloden--s were in so..lvency, suddenly, all banks started making money, is there anything wrong, I am really happy someone else knows more than I do..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it said banks or gloden&#8211;s were in so..lvency, suddenly, all banks started making money, is there anything wrong, I am really happy someone else knows more than I do..</p>
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		<title>By: brewcrew</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1785</link>
		<dc:creator>brewcrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey Skilling and Andy Fastow must be livid right now. These two are in jail for the exact same accounting shenanigans that are being allowed by the current administration. Ken Lay is spinning in his grave. Is it too late to hire Arthur Andersen as auditors of all this? I only fear that this will all end (again) someday in spectacular failure, with the little people being out their 401(k)&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey Skilling and Andy Fastow must be livid right now. These two are in jail for the exact same accounting shenanigans that are being allowed by the current administration. Ken Lay is spinning in his grave. Is it too late to hire Arthur Andersen as auditors of all this? I only fear that this will all end (again) someday in spectacular failure, with the little people being out their 401(k)&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1774</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but bringing assets back on balance sheet will have a meaningful impact.&quot;It will only have its _proper_ impact if they bring those assets back to the balance sheet at their real values instead of the government approved imaginary values now used to hide the fact that most of them are technically insolvent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but bringing assets back on balance sheet will have a meaningful impact.&#8221;It will only have its _proper_ impact if they bring those assets back to the balance sheet at their real values instead of the government approved imaginary values now used to hide the fact that most of them are technically insolvent.</p>
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		<title>By: Casper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1769</link>
		<dc:creator>Casper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad somebody understands this, because I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad somebody understands this, because I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: fresno dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1768</link>
		<dc:creator>fresno dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with &quot;eyekew&quot;I hate to confess such ignorance, but what is the rationale or philosophy for &quot;off balance&quot; sheet accounting?does anyone have a link to a site or article that defends &quot;off balance&quot; sheet accounting?  Seriously - I would be interested in the pros and cons of this idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with &#8220;eyekew&#8221;I hate to confess such ignorance, but what is the rationale or philosophy for &#8220;off balance&#8221; sheet accounting?does anyone have a link to a site or article that defends &#8220;off balance&#8221; sheet accounting?  Seriously &#8211; I would be interested in the pros and cons of this idea.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinfo</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveinfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Housing boosters have forecast turnarounds repeatedly since the market peaked in 2006, only to be proven wrong by plunging prices. And skeptics say they’re wrong again now.They argue that a deeply indebted consumer, a weak job market, expiring incentives and rising foreclosures spell a quick end to any housing rebound.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.housingnewslive.com/us-housing-news-articles.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.housingnewslive.com/us-housing-news-articles.php&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Housing boosters have forecast turnarounds repeatedly since the market peaked in 2006, only to be proven wrong by plunging prices. And skeptics say they’re wrong again now.They argue that a deeply indebted consumer, a weak job market, expiring incentives and rising foreclosures spell a quick end to any housing rebound.<a href='http://www.housingnewslive.com/us-housing-news-articles.php'>http://www.housingnewslive.com/u s-housing-news-articles.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t a bunch of guys at Enron go to prison for this type of thing?  Where is the Justice Dept?  Where is the outrage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t a bunch of guys at Enron go to prison for this type of thing?  Where is the Justice Dept?  Where is the outrage?</p>
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		<title>By: Jas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>Jas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now! This is ridiculous, the banks have had two years now. With TARP it&#039;s been what 9 months? They don&#039;t need another year, especially &quot;TARP for life&quot; BofA. Come clean now before the economy falls further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now! This is ridiculous, the banks have had two years now. With TARP it&#8217;s been what 9 months? They don&#8217;t need another year, especially &#8220;TARP for life&#8221; BofA. Come clean now before the economy falls further.</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though it may be a year off, this is the best news I&#039;ve read in quite a while and gives me a reason to look forward to the future!However, there&#039;s many a lobbyist &#039;twixt proposals and implementation. But, what the heck, I&#039;m going to try being an optimist as it has been a trying two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though it may be a year off, this is the best news I&#8217;ve read in quite a while and gives me a reason to look forward to the future!However, there&#8217;s many a lobbyist &#8216;twixt proposals and implementation. But, what the heck, I&#8217;m going to try being an optimist as it has been a trying two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1741</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This seems foolish. With equity markets nice and bubbly again, it’s not very difficult for banks to sell stock. If regulators make clear that additional capital will be required soon, banks may act pre-emptively to raise it now.&lt;/i&gt;Haha, well, Rolfe, if they sell stock, then the existing stockholders get devalued and then how do the CEOs and CFOs collect fat bonuses if the stockholders take a hit? Banks don&#039;t want to raise capital because it exposes just how bad their businesses are being run, and then the old boy network of board members and executive officers might be fired... that might be good for the company but it has long since stopped being about what&#039;s good for the company... its now about what&#039;s good for the people in charge... and what&#039;s good for them right now is to keep this green-shoots charade going as long as possible, preferably with tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems foolish. With equity markets nice and bubbly again, it’s not very difficult for banks to sell stock. If regulators make clear that additional capital will be required soon, banks may act pre-emptively to raise it now.Haha, well, Rolfe, if they sell stock, then the existing stockholders get devalued and then how do the CEOs and CFOs collect fat bonuses if the stockholders take a hit? Banks don&#8217;t want to raise capital because it exposes just how bad their businesses are being run, and then the old boy network of board members and executive officers might be fired&#8230; that might be good for the company but it has long since stopped being about what&#8217;s good for the company&#8230; its now about what&#8217;s good for the people in charge&#8230; and what&#8217;s good for them right now is to keep this green-shoots charade going as long as possible, preferably with tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: VK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1735</link>
		<dc:creator>VK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fed Flow of Funds report has shown Total Debt decrease for the first time since the 30&#039;s I believe even with Govt spending.Also the biggest private sector contraction ever according to my reading of the data. Quite horrible, horrible figures. The economy is imploding and it appears we will reach a tipping point soon that will cascade us downwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fed Flow of Funds report has shown Total Debt decrease for the first time since the 30&#8242;s I believe even with Govt spending.Also the biggest private sector contraction ever according to my reading of the data. Quite horrible, horrible figures. The economy is imploding and it appears we will reach a tipping point soon that will cascade us downwards.</p>
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		<title>By: eyekew</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1732</link>
		<dc:creator>eyekew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please explain to me why ANYTHING legitimate should be off balance sheet.</description>
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		<title>By: Arlene Duncan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/rolfe-winkler/2009/09/17/ending-the-off-balance-sheet-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-1731</link>
		<dc:creator>Arlene Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The banks should not be given time to ammend anything. After receiving bailout money they proceeded to buy smaller banks and small credit card companies and raise interest rates for no reason except GREED. This has not helped the everyday people by stimulating the economy, which was the purpose of the bailout as I recall. They used the time they Knew they had before rules on credit changed.  The rules  put puny limits on their ability to raise rates at their whim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The banks should not be given time to ammend anything. After receiving bailout money they proceeded to buy smaller banks and small credit card companies and raise interest rates for no reason except GREED. This has not helped the everyday people by stimulating the economy, which was the purpose of the bailout as I recall. They used the time they Knew they had before rules on credit changed.  The rules  put puny limits on their ability to raise rates at their whim.</p>
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