Comments on: Immigrants: the new, high-tech entrepreneurs http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/ Grow your own Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:32:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: brokeamerican http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-2020 Wed, 09 Jun 2010 01:47:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-2020 I am an American citizen and I can’t even get a small business loan. How dare immigrants complain about this!!! Then have the audacity to wine about the fees paid for visas, what do you expect??? How would you like it if Americans came over to your country and took your religion and jobs from you??? NO I AM NOT PREJUDICE, but I find it to be sickening that my children are no longer able to use the word GOD in the pledge of elegance at school, nor are they allowed to speak of GOD! The government took religion out of our schools because it is not acceptable and offensive to some immigrants. That boggles my mind and disgusts me. This country was founded on Christianity, so get over it, practice your religion and shut your hole! I understand that it is terrible to have to live in poor countries that you have no rights in, but don’t come over here and complain and take American rights like religion in PUBLIC schools away!!!!!!!!

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By: bharat http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-413 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:37:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-413 Hugh
My children mingle with all colors, do sleepovers and have fun and go to Hollywood movies like any other american kid whole nine yards. ….Not all is gloom and doom. We the Parents learn american accent from our kids more than from our colleagues.(in turn we teach them vocabulary!).Up front I want to say I have loads of good words for USA. (Responding to some posts, here, I am likely to look otherwise.)

The first generation immigrants pay a lot in living the ordeal of becoming perm residents as amply explained by others. They simply lost the ability to mingle beyond a point and worse, they forgot to enjoy life in general. They don’t know skiing, foot ball or the partying culture. I must say, almost all of them encourage their children to join their school mates without any insulation. No parent tells children that whites, blacks and Hispanics are bad. There are some practical issues which may impede the spirit of assimilation. Places of worship, movies / cultural events and a overall soft corner one harbors for ones nation of origin binds the first generation immigrants on a social level. I have a Russian friend, doing fine here, but misses Russia deep down he complains. Another first generation case.
Some bloggers with typical indian screen name accused of( indias) bias. Either they just forgot to see the ground reality or simply they refuse to realize the truth about contemporary India. Iam sure, they don’t even know the prime minister of India or sonias background or her son in laws faith.Mayawati and Narendra Modi and half a dozen other chief ministers belong to the deprived castes. Aandhra (Tirupati), tamil nadu and rajastan states s have made people of all castes (including dalits) train as Pujaris thru their respective universities and placed them in temples. Not watching news? Shocked? Yeah well. Its not a walk in the park back in India.
USA is lagging behind India in its ability to implement affirmative action to its minorities. BY excluding all the Asian kids across the board they have deprived all minority religions to enjoy benefits of the policy. Iam given to understand that only Hispanics and African americans get to enroll in the affirmative action plan (if am I wrong-please tell me so).
Agree a careful evaluation of immigration policy will be supported by all, including trimming the influx, provided all bias is eradicated. A national debate is welcome.

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By: Debasish http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-408 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:18:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-408 People who are under the impression that H1B workers are driving unemployment rates up have their facts messed up. Do you know that h1B workers amount to 0.28% of the workforce? We are none different than any American Citizen. The only difference being that we can’t vote. We pay our taxes, abide by the same rules. I have been in this country for the past 15 years, & I consider this my home. It would be tragic if I have to head back home since I’m so used to the American way of life & I love it. The immigration policies are another matter :)

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By: Pete Murphy http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-406 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:55:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-406 Rampant population growth threatens our economy and quality of life. Immigration, both legal and illegal, are fueling this growth. I’m not talking about environmental degradation or resource depletion. I’m talking about the effect upon rising unemployment and poverty in America.

I should introduce myself. I am the author of a book titled “Five Short Blasts: A New Economic Theory Exposes The Fatal Flaw in Globalization and Its Consequences for America.” To make a long story short, my theory is that, as population density rises beyond some optimum level, per capita consumption of products begins to decline out of the need to conserve space. People who live in crowded conditions simply don’t have enough space to use and store many products. This declining per capita consumption, in the face of rising productivity (per capita output, which always rises), inevitably yields rising unemployment and poverty.

This theory has huge implications for U.S. policy toward population management, especially immigration policy. Our policies of encouraging high rates of immigration are rooted in the belief of economists that population growth is a good thing, fueling economic growth. Through most of human history, the interests of the common good and business (corporations) were both well-served by continuing population growth. For the common good, we needed more workers to man our factories, producing the goods needed for a high standard of living. This population growth translated into sales volume growth for corporations. Both were happy.

But, once an optimum population density is breached, their interests diverge. It is in the best interest of the common good to stabilize the population, avoiding an erosion of our quality of life through high unemployment and poverty. However, it is still in the interest of corporations to fuel population growth because, even though per capita consumption goes into decline, total consumption still increases. We now find ourselves in the position of having corporations and economists influencing public policy in a direction that is not in the best interest of the common good.

The U.N. ranks the U.S. with eight third world countries – India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Bangladesh, Uganda, Ethiopia and China – as accounting for fully half of the world’s population growth by 2050. It’s absolutely imperative that our population be stabilized, and that’s impossible without dramatically reining in immigration, both legal and illegal.

If you’re interested in learning more about this important new economic theory, I invite you to visit my web site at OpenWindowPublishingCo.com where you can read the preface, join in my blog discussion and, of course, purchase the book if you like. (It’s also available at Amazon.com.)

Please forgive the somewhat spammish nature of the previous paragraph. I just don’t know how else to inject this new perspective into the immigration debate without drawing attention to the book that explains the theory.

Pete Murphy
Author, “Five Short Blasts”

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By: ConcernedCitizen http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-405 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:48:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-405 America stop being a push over. It’s time that we give more rights to your OWN citizens…yes American Citizens for a change. Americans need jobs…stop listening that we need more guest workers (most of all they are not IMMIGRANTS). We were doing quite well without the guest worker visas…our economy was soaring, we were able to send a man to the moon. When the guest workers started working, our economy and standard of living have really gone down.

The only economy guest workers help is Walmart and Costco (they buy all their clothes there).

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By: YD http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-401 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:06:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-401 I disagree with SHIVA. Indians dont lie or cheat. Infact if you look at H1B people in USA. They pay all taxes on time. They work extra hours , on fridays you will find indian people sitting in office and working late hours. Sometimes they get paid sometime not for extra hours.
Indians pay SSN taxes although they know they will never get it back. Indians will never utilize Healthcare facilities other than annual checkup , fever , cold. But still they will buy insurance with high premium best coverage.
When any tech project ends, H1B people get rolled off before US Citizen employees as H1B are contractors and highly paid. H1B employees are skilled workers with high pay.

I see SHIVA as confused person and talking irrelevant to topic of “Immigrants: the new, high-tech entrepreneurs”. This was answer to SHIVA.

My thoughts about Immigrants and Entrepreneurs, one of my friend who has got 25 yrs of experience as CEO of good firm in India wanted to start business in USA. So he came here on Business visa, invested huge and started software product firm which deals with Mobile phones. His business was picking up and in first few months it reached to few millions. Then he got L1 visa to get transfer he got it for 6 months. 2nd year his business picked up and had good growth and in six months he has to go back as his L1 extension got delayed. This was due to myth that Indian people are trying to take away jobs. Now its almost 6 months he is not in USA. If he would have been here , USA might have got taxes and he would have hired few US Citizens as his major area was marketing Mobile Software and he will always need US Citizen to do marketing. I feel sorry for USA. Now he is doing business at Europe and South Africa. Europe govt and South Africa govt are getting benefit of it by Taxes he is paying there.

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By: Big C http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-400 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:47:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-400 I personally think reform is needed. As a U.S citizen not too far removed from school I’ve seen the issues of my non U.S. friends in college dealing with the whole VISA situation. The schools charge crazy fees for international students, and the gov’t give them a year of OPT. H1 Visas, always seem like a goal too far away in some cases. I personally think that reform should start with rewarding those at the top of their class, or who rise above the rest with another way to work and become a citizen in the states. Personally if a company is interested in a qualified immigrant, there should be some terms regarding a long time employment including a measure of time after the immigrant receives their papers. What bothers me is the clamor about immigrants who come and don’t work..when there’s so many who come here, who become qualified educationally and skill-wise. But still do not get hired.

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By: Rajesh http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-399 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:05:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-399 we are giving green cards (GC) on lottery every year. We are ready to give citizenship to illegal immigrants but we are shying away to give green cards to individuals who have been living here for years legally and paying taxes. The signal that we are sending is that you will get GC easily, become citizen easily if you belong to particular country or if you are illegal. If you are leagal immigrant and pay taxes, create jobs, work hard, you are exploited by your employer and USCIS because of visa issues, you cannot get promotions because that can lead to your GC process in jeopardy, you keep on living in uncertainty, get the blame of cheap labor even when your client is paying much more money for your work than US workers but you are getting less because of middle man and visa restrictions and on top of it wait for GC for years.

Why do we even have employment based immigration? may be because this gives businesses, who can hire lobbyists and pay hefty donations to people that matter, right to exploit immigrants. We can have a law where if an individual or family has lived in US as legal immigrant for more that 5 years, paid taxes and does not have any criminal proceeding against him/her/them then they can apply for GC as individuals and there is no need of employer involvement.

Lets hope we get this kind of system and this will make sure that immigrants are not explloited. Immigrants will know that they will give GC if they are here for more than 5 years and they can plan for their future. USCIS can predict based on number of leagal immigrants entered 5 years ago to decide how many GCs are to be given etc. Win-Win situation for all.

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By: Sam http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-398 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:40:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-398 Shiva, what in the world are you talking about?

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By: amulya http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/2009/07/22/immigrants-the-new-high-tech-entrepreneurs/comment-page-1/#comment-397 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:29:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business/?p=850#comment-397 relax immigration policies let high tech immigrants stay here and keep US in position to lead if they have to leave the country the tech power will shift to other parts of world very easily

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