Comments on: England’s failure: an outsider’s view http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/ World Soccer views and news Fri, 5 Sep 2008 05:38:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: English players should get out more - Reuters Soccer Blog http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333557 English players should get out more - Reuters Soccer Blog Sun, 02 Dec 2007 06:27:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333557 [...] colleague Julien Pretot last week offered a brief outsider’s view on England’s failures in the match against Croatia. If you’ll forgive another [...] […] colleague Julien Pretot last week offered a brief outsider’s view on England’s failures in the match against Croatia. If you’ll forgive another […]

]]> By: kev http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333456 kev Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:20:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333456 I think Dean's right. All goalkeepers make mistakes. The key is how they respond and that's a question of character. If Carson has been identified as the best long-term bet it's crucial he gets a long run in the side. Let's see what he's made of. I think Dean’s right. All goalkeepers make mistakes. The key is how they respond and that’s a question of character. If Carson has been identified as the best long-term bet it’s crucial he gets a long run in the side. Let’s see what he’s made of.

]]> By: Dean Morton http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333452 Dean Morton Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:58:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333452 Totally agree with Matija on Carson.Scott Carson in the few games he played for England looked confident and less likely to make a crucial error prior to that game v Croatia.Robinson and James both have had appalling games for England in the past conceding goals through a mixture of poor concentration and nerves.Either of these two could have totally fell apart during that game which i don't believe Carson did. England always needs to use a scapegoat to whitewash bigger shortcomings and in this case it was Scott Carson. It's very easy to cast the blame at a selection in hindsight but i don't for one minute believe the serlection was wrong and Scott Carson i believe will learn from this and grow into one of the finest keepers this country as ever produced. Totally agree with Matija on Carson.Scott Carson in the few games he played for England looked confident and less likely to make a crucial error prior to that game v Croatia.Robinson and James both have had appalling games for England in the past conceding goals through a mixture of poor concentration and nerves.Either of these two could have totally fell apart during that game which i don’t believe Carson did.
England always needs to use a scapegoat to whitewash bigger shortcomings and in this case it was Scott Carson.
It’s very easy to cast the blame at a selection in hindsight but i don’t for one minute believe the serlection was wrong and Scott Carson i believe will learn from this and grow into one of the finest keepers this country as ever produced.

]]> By: rick richardson http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333389 rick richardson Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:45:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333389 I'm a HUGE Chelsea fan, but I would have dropped Lampard and Gerrard, ---started Barry and Hargreaves in midfield-and starting Carson was a joke in such an important match. Start Becks on the right, tried Cole on the left-and for christ's sake -TWO forwards not one up front-probably Crouch and Defoe. McClaren was useless, what did he ever do at M'boro? I’m a HUGE Chelsea fan, but I would have dropped Lampard and Gerrard, —started Barry and Hargreaves in midfield-and starting Carson was a joke in such an important match. Start Becks on the right, tried Cole on the left-and for christ’s sake -TWO forwards not one up front-probably Crouch and Defoe. McClaren was useless, what did he ever do at M’boro?

]]> By: Julien Pretot http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333368 Julien Pretot Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:58:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333368 Indeed Matija, Croatia were the best, no one can argue with that... Indeed Matija, Croatia were the best, no one can argue with that…

]]> By: Matt http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333350 Matt Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:30:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333350 Shock? Surprise? I was neither shocked nor surprised that England failed to qualify - we had a clueless coach who was never up to the job, appointed by men in suits at the FA who should all be sacked. The silver lining is that not qualifying was the only way to get rid of McClaren before the next World Cup, and that, in my opinion, was a price worth paying. Shock? Surprise? I was neither shocked nor surprised that England failed to qualify - we had a clueless coach who was never up to the job, appointed by men in suits at the FA who should all be sacked. The silver lining is that not qualifying was the only way to get rid of McClaren before the next World Cup, and that, in my opinion, was a price worth paying.

]]> By: Matija croat http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333338 Matija croat Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:30:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333338 I just want to say one thing ,I`m from Croatia and I`m happy that we win,the thing is why you all english people can`t at least one time say that croatia was better team not just here on wembley but remember last year in zagreb you also lose so its not Carsnons fault that you lose it in your brain and mind thinking that you will easily beat Croatia but NOOO ,croatia players are playing with heart and for country so we kick your ass.REGARDS FROM CROATIA I just want to say one thing ,I`m from Croatia and I`m happy that we win,the thing is why you all english people can`t at least one time say that croatia was better team not just here on wembley but remember last year in zagreb you also lose so its not Carsnons fault that you lose it in your brain and mind thinking that you will easily beat Croatia but NOOO ,croatia players are playing with heart and for country so we kick your ass.REGARDS FROM CROATIA

]]> By: Simon http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333335 Simon Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:11:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333335 It seems to me that Lescott is getting a bad deal by the media. I look at the blogs and people support him and dont blame him. It is the media for some reason that are doing this. Maybe his face does not fit. As for Carragher, when I remember the derby he could not handle the presence of Lescott and hauled him down or grabbed his shirt at every opportunity. In the England game the first goal was a fault by Carson, The second was a fault by Bridge and the third was just a good goal that Carson maybe could have saved. I am neutral but believe Lescott to be world class but also have other aspects. ie he is one of the top scorers in the premiership even as a defender. He is better than Carragher, and I think Carragher knows that he is past his best. He must know that Clattenburg cant referee England matches. It seems to me that Lescott is getting a bad deal by the media. I look at the blogs and people support him and dont blame him. It is the media for some reason that are doing this. Maybe his face does not fit. As for Carragher, when I remember the derby he could not handle the presence of Lescott and hauled him down or grabbed his shirt at every opportunity. In the England game the first goal was a fault by Carson, The second was a fault by Bridge and the third was just a good goal that Carson maybe could have saved. I am neutral but believe Lescott to be world class but also have other aspects. ie he is one of the top scorers in the premiership even as a defender. He is better than Carragher, and I think Carragher knows that he is past his best. He must know that Clattenburg cant referee England matches.

]]> By: Kevin Fylan http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333329 Kevin Fylan Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:54:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333329 Yeah, Dave's Football Blog. When Mike Collett blogged about the goalkeepers ahead of the match most people seemed to agree that Carson should come in, or at least no one said it was a nutso idea. http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/21/can-mcclaren-afford-to-gamble-on-innocence-of-youth/#comments Yeah, Dave’s Football Blog. When Mike Collett blogged about the goalkeepers ahead of the match most people seemed to agree that Carson should come in, or at least no one said it was a nutso idea.
http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/ 21/can-mcclaren-afford-to-gamble-on-inno cence-of-youth/#comments

]]> By: Dave's Football Blog http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333327 Dave's Football Blog Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:40:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2007/11/23/englands-failure-an-outsiders-view/#comment-333327 How about because EVERYONE IN ENGLAND was telling him to bench Paul Robinson at all costs, and Carson outplayed David James in training? Would everyone have rather seen James or Robinson in goal? Would the result really have been that much different? How about because EVERYONE IN ENGLAND was telling him to bench Paul Robinson at all costs, and Carson outplayed David James in training?

Would everyone have rather seen James or Robinson in goal? Would the result really have been that much different?

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