Comments on: FA needs more common sense after Aliadiere affair http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/ World Soccer views and news Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:58:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: winning-is-everything http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-337100 winning-is-everything Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:27:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-337100 The same happened to Burnley this season, they challenged a decision and the ban was extended from 3 to 4 games. Now Owen Coyle won't attempt to challenge bans to the fear of they'll be called “frivolous” and the ban gets extended! The same happened to Burnley this season, they challenged a decision and the ban was extended from 3 to 4 games. Now Owen Coyle won’t attempt to challenge bans to the fear of they’ll be called “frivolous” and the ban gets extended!

]]> By: Peter Digney http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-337055 Peter Digney Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:26:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-337055 I feel that the FA are completely out of touch. The week before an Arsenal player Kicked Nani of Manchester United, FA's decision "NO action to be taken" The liverpool game. A Liverpool player grabs the face of an Aston Villa player, the Villa Player retaliates by appearing to slap the liverpool player. " IF it was a red card BOTH players should have walked" Somebody should actually CHARGE the FA with " Bringing the game into disrepute" When are we going to get rid of the geriatric committees in the FA and have forward thinking younger people. I feel that the FA are completely out of touch.
The week before an Arsenal player Kicked Nani of Manchester United, FA’s decision “NO action to be taken”
The liverpool game. A Liverpool player grabs the face of an Aston Villa player, the Villa Player retaliates by appearing to slap the liverpool player. ” IF it was a red card BOTH players should have walked”
Somebody should actually CHARGE the FA with
” Bringing the game into disrepute”
When are we going to get rid of the geriatric committees in the FA and have forward thinking younger people.

]]> By: Bryan http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336995 Bryan Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:37:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336995 Padraic I do agree with you on the point that the FA could use more common sense. This is one of many situations where they have cocked up what should have been a simple situation. Unfortunately for fans of smaller clubs like Middlesbrough, Gibson lacks the proper Scottish accent that seems to draw a response out of the FA. Padraic

I do agree with you on the point that the FA could use more common sense. This is one of many situations where they have cocked up what should have been a simple situation. Unfortunately for fans of smaller clubs like Middlesbrough, Gibson lacks the proper Scottish accent that seems to draw a response out of the FA.

]]> By: JohnST http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336972 JohnST Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:54:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336972 I am okay with the punishment meted out to Aliadiere but there is a double standard in dealing with appeals. In most cases, clubs will not expect appeals to work as a large number of successful appeals will undermine the authority and judgments of referees. The appeal could just be a matter of principle and to register some unhappiness. Lengthening the ban in this case is ridiculous. The FA should not use such a tactic to discourage appeals. I am okay with the punishment meted out to Aliadiere but there is a double standard in dealing with appeals.

In most cases, clubs will not expect appeals to work as a large number of successful appeals will undermine the authority and judgments of referees. The appeal could just be a matter of principle and to register some unhappiness.

Lengthening the ban in this case is ridiculous. The FA should not use such a tactic to discourage appeals.

]]> By: Padraic Halpin http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336968 Padraic Halpin Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:55:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336968 Bryan, looking back it does read like I overlooked that fact and my gripe with the lack of consistency lies - like you say - in the fact that Aliadiere got a yellow, but Mascherano did not. I still do think that common sense should be used in disciplinary procedures but thanks for the clarifying post. Bryan, looking back it does read like I overlooked that fact and my gripe with the lack of consistency lies - like you say - in the fact that Aliadiere got a yellow, but Mascherano did not. I still do think that common sense should be used in disciplinary procedures but thanks for the clarifying post.

]]> By: Neil http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336961 Neil Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:08:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336961 The letter of the law should not always be exercised to the extreme. Common sense should be applied in my view. With regards to the Alliadiere incident, as he had already been booked the referee was left with no alternative but to send him off. What I would say is that in other games, people have been shown a straight red for a similar action - handbags are apart of football. As for the additional ban, that is ridiculous. It was hardly a savage attack! The letter of the law should not always be exercised to the extreme. Common sense should be applied in my view. With regards to the Alliadiere incident, as he had already been booked the referee was left with no alternative but to send him off. What I would say is that in other games, people have been shown a straight red for a similar action - handbags are apart of football.

As for the additional ban, that is ridiculous. It was hardly a savage attack!

]]> By: Mark Meadows http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336957 Mark Meadows Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:31:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336957 I havent seen the incident unfortunatley but if Aliadiere put his hands up, under the rules it is violent conduct so it has to be a straight red. You could maybe give a yellow for unsporting behaviour but it is a grey area. Maybe, as Padraic says with the rugby example, refs should not show any card for an incident like that if it is just basic handbags with no malice, when they both did it to each other I havent seen the incident unfortunatley but if Aliadiere put his hands up, under the rules it is violent conduct so it has to be a straight red.
You could maybe give a yellow for unsporting behaviour but it is a grey area. Maybe, as Padraic says with the rugby example, refs should not show any card for an incident like that if it is just basic handbags with no malice, when they both did it to each other

]]> By: Bryan http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336956 Bryan Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:11:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336956 You seem to fail to realize an important difference between the red card Taylor received and the one Aliadiere received. Aliadiere was sent off for a second yellow card offense, as opposed to a straight red card. He played 60 minutes with that yellow card, and amidst a Middlesbrough team that has the worst disciplinary record of any team in the Premier League. Perhaps the extension wasn't deserved, but there can be little doubt that both yellows were deserved given the letter of the law. Mascherano also should have received a yellow card at least though. You seem to fail to realize an important difference between the red card Taylor received and the one Aliadiere received. Aliadiere was sent off for a second yellow card offense, as opposed to a straight red card. He played 60 minutes with that yellow card, and amidst a Middlesbrough team that has the worst disciplinary record of any team in the Premier League. Perhaps the extension wasn’t deserved, but there can be little doubt that both yellows were deserved given the letter of the law. Mascherano also should have received a yellow card at least though.

]]> By: Mark Meadows http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336948 Mark Meadows Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:05:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/soccer/2008/02/27/fa-needs-more-common-sense-after-aliadiere-affair/#comment-336948 I don't think we have had a day in sport with two such great quotes.Gibson calling the FA 'silly little men' and Aussie cricketer Matthew Hayden labelling India's Harbhajan Singh an 'obnoxious weed'. Gibson probably has a point in this instance, I have no idea about Hayden. I don’t think we have had a day in sport with two such great quotes.Gibson calling the FA ’silly little men’ and Aussie cricketer Matthew Hayden labelling India’s Harbhajan Singh an ‘obnoxious weed’.
Gibson probably has a point in this instance, I have no idea about Hayden.

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