Comments on: Let’s take ‘deliberately’ out of the handball law

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Handball » Islandia - Łotwa — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:21:43 +0000

[...] Let’s take ‘deliberately’ out of the handball law - Reuters BlogsI have a suggestion on how to clear up inconsistencies with handballs. Law 12 states that “a direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player…handles the ball deliberately [...]

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By: brian

brian — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:40:24 +0000

the problem with your suggestion is that “advantage” could play out over the course of seconds or even minutes, leading to the necessity of retroactive calls. the example you gave shows the flaw in your own premise. IF the ball had gone to the feet of a torino attacker, then there would have been no foul under your ruling. but what if it hadn’t? then the ref would have to call a retroactive foul, something abhorrent to and essentially unheardof in football. let the ruling stand, i say.

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Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:59:04 +0000

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By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:07:43 +0000

Thanks Braveswin. In the case you describe it would not be a foul because if the hands had not been there, the ball would have struck the ‘family jewels’ and rebounded away anyway.
In the unlikely case where the ball would have deflected in a different way by striking the hands than the body behind them, it would be a tough judgement call and so the ref should err on the side of caution and not give a penalty.
The idea isnt perfect but neither is the current situation

By: BravesWin

BravesWin — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:01:16 +0000

>> In this case under my new rule it would not be a foul, yet currently it would be a foul if the player lifted their hands to quite understandably shield their face.

What’s the ruling if an offensive player in the wall has the free kick go off his hands while he’s protecting the jewels and it subsequently rebounds to a teammate who shoots it into the goal?

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Handball » Meine Handball-Show — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:55:47 +0000

By: Kevin Fylan

Kevin Fylan — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:40:31 +0000

It’s a long time since I heard the euphemism “family jewels” so special thanks for that, juan!

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:05:36 +0000

Thanks for your observations Juan. In the cases you describe above, where the ball would have gone on to hit the face or body if the hands weren’t there, I dont think you can say the player gained an advantage from handling it as the ball would deflect away in the same manner as it would have done anyway.
In this case under my new rule it would not be a foul, yet currently it would be a foul if the player lifted their hands to quite understandably shield their face.

By: Juan

Juan — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:45:38 +0000

I am not sure that I agree with you. There can be situations, when a handball occurs only to protect yourself or when your arm is not stretch out away from the body. Defenders will always cover their heads and ‘family jewels’ during freekicks, and is allowed.