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Soccer scores and the power of the pub

September 25, 2009

Let’s be honest here, people, predicting the English football scores has proved to be a lot trickier than many of us imagined.

You’d have thought that the frankly obsessive interest most of us here at Reuters Soccer Blog Heights take in football would see us approach this competition with the pitiless, sweeping brilliance of Celta Vigo in their ‘EuroCelta‘ heydey of 1998-2000*.

But no. It turns out we’re strictly second division, rather like Celta now, in fact, when it comes to predicting the scores. Still, at least we now know why.

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger puts his success in football down to being brought up in the Croix d’Or bistro in Duttlenheim. Wenger said:

“I even learned about tactics and selection from the people talking about football in the pub… who plays on the left wing and who should be in the team.”

This is good news for me, as my dad was brought up in a pub so I’m going to get him to do my predictions this week. Expect great things.

To recap, briefly, you get one point for predicting the right result, and make that five points if you get the score spot on. This week there are double points, and possible forfeits, for Stoke v Manchester United, and there are always bonus points available, but I’m afraid they are entirely on my whim. Here’s how things stand at the moment:

Reuters Soccer Blog: Simon Evans 46, Kevin Fylan 42, Paul Radford 41, Patrick Johnston 40, Justin Palmer 35, Miles Evans 35, Mitch Phillips 35, Mike Collett 28, Neil Maidment 26, Julien Pretot 25, Mark Meadows 16, Asia Sports Desk 15

Rest of the World: Maid leads with a whopping 63, Chipking is second on 54 and UTV got a mighty 15 on debut.

How are the rest of you doing? Remember, the scoring has been so poor that you can still join in at any time and expect to overtake most of us within a couple of weeks. Look at UTV: another week like last week and she’ll be in mid-table security.

So, here are this week’s games. I’ll add in our predictions as they come in from around the Reuter Soccer Blogosphere. And please, give us yours in the comments section.

Portsmouth v Everton: Simon Evans: 1-1; Terry Fylan: 0-2; Paul Radford: 0-0; Patrick Johnston:1-2 ; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 2-2; Mitch Phillips:1-0; Mike Collett: 0-2 ; Neil Maidment: 0-2; Julien Pretot : 2-1; Mark Meadows: 0-1; Asia Sports Desk: 1-1

Birmingham City v Bolton Wanderers: Simon Evans: 2-1; Terry Fylan: 1-0; Paul Radford: 2-1; Patrick Johnston: 1-0 ; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 2-1; Mitch Phillips:1-1; Mike Collett: 1-0 ; Neil Maidment: 1-1; Julien Pretot : 1-0; Mark Meadows: 2-1; Asia Sports Desk: 1-1

Blackburn Rovers v Aston Villa: Simon Evans: 1-2; Terry Fylan: 1-2; Paul Radford: 0-1; Patrick Johnston: 0-2; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 1-3; Mitch Phillips: 1-0; Mike Collett: 0-2; Neil Maidment: 1-3; Julien Pretot : 1-1; Mark Meadows: 0-2; Asia Sports Desk: 0-1

Liverpool v Hull City: Simon Evans: 2-0; Terry Fylan: 6-0; Paul Radford: 6-0; Patrick Johnston: 5-0 ; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 2-1; Mitch Phillips: 1-1; Mike Collett: 5-0; Neil Maidment: 4-0; Julien Pretot : 4-0; Mark Meadows: 2-0; Asia Sports Desk: 3-0

Stoke City v Manchester United: Simon Evans: 0-2; Terry Fylan: 0-2; Paul Radford: 0-0; Patrick Johnston: 1-2 ; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 1-1; Mitch Phillips: 0-2; Mike Collett: 0-2; Neil Maidment: 1-2; Julien Pretot : 1-3; Mark Meadows: 0-1; Asia Sports Desk: 0-2

Tottenham Hotspur v Burnley: Simon Evans: 1-1; Terry Fylan: 3-1; Paul Radford: 3-1; Patrick Johnston: 4-1 ; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 3-2; Mitch Phillips: 2-0; Mike Collett: 3-1; Neil Maidment: 3-0; Julien Pretot : 3-1; Mark Meadows: 2-0; Asia Sports Desk: 2-1

Wigan Athletic v Chelsea: Simon Evans: 0-2; Terry Fylan: 0-3; Paul Radford: 0-3; Patrick Johnston: 0-2 ; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 0-2; Mitch Phillips:1-1; Mike Collett: 0-4; Neil Maidment: 0-3; Julien Pretot : 0-2; Mark Meadows: 1-4; Asia Sports Desk: 0-3

Fulham v Arsenal: Simon Evans: 1-1; Terry Fylan: 2-2; Paul Radford: 1-2; Patrick Johnston: 0-2 ; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 1-4; Mitch Phillips: 0-1; Mike Collett: 1-3; Neil Maidment: 1-3; Julien Pretot : 1-3; Mark Meadows: 1-1; Asia Sports Desk: 1-3

Playing on Sunday:

Sunderland v Wolverhampton Wanderers: Simon Evans: 2-1; Terry Fylan: 0-0; Paul Radford: 2-1; Patrick Johnston: 3-0 ; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 1-1; Mitch Phillips:0-0; Mike Collett: 1-1; Neil Maidment: 2-1; Julien Pretot : 1-0; Mark Meadows: 0-0; Asia Sports Desk: 0-0

Playing on Monday:

Manchester City v West Ham United: Simon Evans: 3-0; Terry Fylan: 4-1; Paul Radford: 3-0; Patrick Johnston: 2-1; Justin Palmer: ; Miles Evans: 2-2; Mitch Phillips: 0-1; Mike Collett: 3-0; Neil Maidment : 3-0; Julien Pretot : 3-0; Mark Meadows: 3-1; Asia Sports Desk: 3-0

* They really were good, as well. Lubo Penev, Valery Karpin, “After You” Claude Makelele, Alexander Mostovoi, Mazinho… (And sorry to any fans of Aston Villa, Liverpool, Benfica or Juventus for bringing back unpleasant memories).

PHOTO: Michael Owen gets a rude awakening from Mazinho as Alexander Mostovoi looks on during their UEFA Cup third round first leg match at Balaidos, November 24, 1998. Celta won 3-1. REUTERS/Sergio Perez

Comments

brum 0 – 1 bolton
b’burn 2 – 1 villa
fulham 0 – 2 arsenal
l’pool 3 – 0 hull
city 3 – 1 west ham
pompey 1 – 2 everton
stoke 0 – 1 united
sund 2 – 0 wolves
spurs 3 – 0 burnley
wigan 0 – 2 chelsea

cant see anything but the favourites winning this week, with the possible exception of blackburn beating villa, but being a fulham fan i really hope im wrong and we can turn around last weeks shocking result away to wolves

Posted by maid | Report as abusive
 

I would love another run like last week but I suspect that it was beginner’s luck. Anyway, here this week’s predictions:
Portsmouth v Everton 1-2
Birmingham City v Bolton Wanderers 2-1
Blackburn Rovers v Aston Villa 1-3
Liverpool v Hull City 3-0
Stoke City v Manchester United 0-3
Tottenham Hotspur v Burnley 2-2
Wigan Athletic v Chelsea 0-1
Fulham v Arsenal 1-3
Sunderland v Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-0
Manchester City v West Ham United 2-0

And finally, I’m a guy though if your whims decree giving bonus points to women, I can stay on as a ‘she’ for this contest.

Posted by UTV | Report as abusive
 

Oops. Sorry, UTV. I’ll apologise in the shape of one extra point… consider yourself on 16!

Posted by Kevin Fylan | Report as abusive
 

that looks pretty good, maid. think from now on i might wait to see your scores before putting in my own.

Posted by Kevin Fylan | Report as abusive
 

My dad has owned two pubs in his time, shall i ask him for his thoughts

Posted by Patrick | Report as abusive
 

Patrick, I shall expect a perferct 55 points from you this week. And two pints of Landlord, please.

Posted by Kevin Fylan | Report as abusive
 

Here goes feeling quite confident about these predictions(but not sure if its confidence or that it could be the lunchtime alcohol tlking im not too sure) but time will tell i guess, need another 19 pointer to take me ahead of maid!
Birmingham v Bolton, 1-1
Blackburn v Aston Villa,0-2
Fulham v Arsenal, 1-3
Liverpool v Hull, 5-0
Man City v West Ham 3-0
Portsmouth v Everton, 0-2
Stoke v Man Utd, 0-1
Sunderland v Wolverhampton 2-0
Tottenham v Burnley 3-1
Wigan v Chelsea, 15:00 0-3

Posted by Chipking | Report as abusive
 

Very interesting prediction for Wigan-Chelsea Chipking, Wigan to score 15,000 goals to Chelseas three hey?

Posted by Patrick | Report as abusive
 

I’ll have the two pints of Landlord!

My predictions are at soccerforesight.com

 

Do you remember Splodgenessabounds? I’ll have two pints of lager and a packet of crisps please…

Posted by Kevin Fylan | Report as abusive
 

Portsmouth v Everton: 0:2
Birmingham City v Bolton Wanderers: 1:0
Blackburn Rovers v Aston Villa: 1-3
Liverpool v Hull City: 3-1
Stoke City v Manchester United: 0-2
Tottenham Hotspur v Burnley: 3-1
Wigan Athletic v Chelsea: 0-2
Fulham v Arsenal: 1-3
Sunderland v Wolverhampton Wanderers: 1-0
Manchester City v West Ham United: 2-1

first week so here goes

Posted by ivan | Report as abusive
 

Birmingham 2 Bolton 1
Blackburn 0 Villa 1
Fulham 0 Arsenal 2
Liverpool 3 Hull 0
Man City 2 West Ham 1
Portsmouth 1 Everton 2
Stoke 0 Man United 2
Sunderland 3 Wolves 1
Tottenham 4 Burnley 1
Wigan 0 Chelsea 2

Posted by Red Devil | Report as abusive
 

portsmouth vs everton === 2-3
birmingham vs bolton === 1-2
blackburn vs villa === 1-2
liverpool vs hull === 3-1
stoke vs man u === 1-4
tottenham vs burnley === 4-2
wigan vs chelsea === 0-3
fulham vs arsenal === 1-4
sunderland vs wolves === 1-1
mancity vs westham === 3-1

i foresee alot of goals this weekend

Posted by meddy | Report as abusive
 

brum 1 – 1 bolton
b’burn 0 – 1 villa
fulham 1 – 2 arsenal
l’pool 3 – 0 hull
city 2 – 0 west ham
pompey 1 – 2 everton
stoke 0 – 3 united
sund 1 – 0 wolves
spurs 2 – 0 burnley
wigan 0 – 2 chelsea

Posted by sean | Report as abusive
 

WOW massive score could you even imagine how that would work it would be a goal every 0.36 seconds madness!! 0-3 is what i meant to put down. Stuck at work today so will be having live scores on refresh every chance i get as am trying to will the 20 pointer barrier to be broken for the first time!!

Posted by Chipking | Report as abusive
 

After chipking constantly telling me to do my predictions on here I finally remembered so here goes and hopefully i’ll get a decent score…
Birmingham v Bolton, 1-1
Blackburn v Aston Villa, 0-2
Fulham v Arsenal, 1-2
Liverpool v Hull, 3-0
Man City v West Ham, 2-0
Portsmouth v Everton, 0-2
Stoke v Man Utd, 0-2
Sunderland v Wolverhampton, 1-0
Tottenham v Burnley, 2-0
Wigan v Chelsea, 0-2

Posted by Flip | Report as abusive
 

Thanks for those late entries, chaps … particularly from the newbies. All arrived in time, I think. And chipking, don’t worry. We knew what you menat. It was just Patrick being awkward.

Posted by Kevin Fylan | Report as abusive
 

Great start for Mark Meadows on the Reuters Soccer Blog panel… Almost everyone had Everton to win but Mar, bizarrely, was the only one to go for 1-0.
Long way to go, though…

Posted by Kevin Fylan | Report as abusive
 

Wish id kept my 15,000 for wigan now! And i did say Keane would come good for the fantasy team i just got the week wrong by like 4 weeks, thankfully i left him in and and made him captain today so even if my fixtures have not gone well so far i know that my fantasy team has points galore!! Need some perfects now if im gonna get close to the 10 point barrier let alone the 20 barrier i wishfully thought!

Posted by Chipking | Report as abusive
 

If I may, Kev, EuroCelta went down to the mighty RC Lens in the UEFA Cup quarter-finals in 99/00, Valerien Ismael cancelling out Revivo’s opener and Pascal Nouma giving us the win — and myself shouting in the stands.

Posted by julien | Report as abusive
 

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