Comments on: Lance Armstrong, a story of doping and deception http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/2012/10/24/lance-armstrong/ The Reuters global sports blog Wed, 16 Nov 2016 16:27:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: KatheM http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/2012/10/24/lance-armstrong/comment-page-1/#comment-20748 Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:24:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/?p=8616#comment-20748 Hey, don’t assume what those of us who support Livestrong think.

But since you’re so interested this is what I think: Armstrong cheated. He lied, he bullied, he put his interests over the well being of others. It’s despicable.

But the way the affidavits were obtained don’t strike me as particularly in tune with the American process. Government dropped its investigation, some quasi-government organization took up the slack, pressured riders to say whatever (and we can only guess that it’s true, just as when they said they were clean.) No legal process whatsoever.

Armstrong had help — not just from riders, from the media as well. And now, the pendulum has swung, after having seen that absolutely nauseating NBC interview by Harry Smith with Betsy Andreu where no hard questions were asked, especially with regard to her husband. And she came forward on the record because she was legally required to do so. It was a marshmallow fest and NBC News executives should really be ashamed. They just wanted to beat CNN. Anyway, the pendulum has swung the other way. And in a few years, it will swing again.

Cycling is a dirty sport, like so many other sports. USADA wanted a skin, and it got it. But I’d much rather see the people really responsible — the governing bodies of both USADA and UCI suffer for their sins. They — more than the dirty riders — have no place in the sport. Michael Vick got to go back to football because sports officials and the Humane Society of the United States (an organization I ordinarily support) gave him support. What he did was far worse. Animals don’t have choices, but people do.

Armstrong’s arrogance? Megalomania can produce lies, and it can also produce greatness. I don’t know how old you are but I hope you never get a serious illness like cancer. Writing about cancer or talking about it and having it are two completely different realities. May your experience be purely intellectual and I hope you won’t ever need Livestrong. Peace.

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By: jjnez http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/2012/10/24/lance-armstrong/comment-page-1/#comment-20737 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:14:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/?p=8616#comment-20737 He was more than a cyclist and his legacy will live on http://t.co/mUrXNm21

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By: Evergreen777 http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/2012/10/24/lance-armstrong/comment-page-1/#comment-20610 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:06:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/sport/?p=8616#comment-20610 Hi George, I read your statement, you are a very gifted writer unless your attorneys wrote this for you? You love the sport so much that you criminally cheated in an organized, collective and calculated effort, and now you going to switch from a black horse to a white horse out convenience to profit some more? I think of all the American amateur cyclist who were and are stronger than you that did not compromise their morals to cheat to succeed like you. You and your former teammates are now going to try and profit once again because you took a plea bargain? How much money did Lance give you to be his lieutenant on and off the bike? Are you and Lance still brothers? This scandal is much bigger than Lance, according to the report it was the whole American team.Frankie Andreu, Michael Barry, Tom Danielson, Levi Leiphimer, Stephen Swart, Christian Vande Velde, Jonathan Vaughters, David Zabriskie. Floyd Landis and Tyler Hamilton and others “The evidence shows beyond any doubt that the US Postal Service Pro Cycling Team ran the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen,”Tygart goes on to say:

“The evidence also includes direct documentary evidence including financial payments, emails, scientific data and laboratory test results that further prove the use, possession and distribution of performance enhancing drugs by Lance Armstrong and confirm the disappointing truth about the deceptive activities of the USPS Team, a team that received tens of millions of American taxpayer dollars in funding.
“Together these different categories of eyewitness, documentary, first-hand, scientific, direct and circumstantial evidence reveal conclusive and undeniable proof that brings to the light of day for the first time this systemic, sustained and highly professionalized team-run doping conspiracy. All of the material will be made available later this afternoon on the USADA website at www.usada.org.”
This was a collective joint team effort… This scandal is far from over and lots of law suits coming I’m sure Lance has a lot to add here and is wondering why he was not offered a plea bargain to help clean up the sport? In close George if you truly loved cycling so much you could have been the one to organize a collective effort to boycott the Tour De France and communicate how bad the doping culture in cycling is? Instead your attitude and mindset is everyone else is doing it and we must organize a way to dope better than everyone else. I can only imagine how upset you were at this years Tour your last Tour when the Dutch Media released the truth of what was going on, and than confirmed by the no show of you and your former teammates at the London Olympics. I’m sure David Walsh would have listened to you and helped you get your message out? Those are the guys that love the sport along with Geg Lemond who may have been the last clean cyclist to win the Tour? If Lance’s name is going to be removed from the history books and be given a life time ban to compete even at a recreational level, the same ban must be applied for all involved. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. No asterisk, Expunged….

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