Comments on: Super PAC cash, immigration rules, and Businessweek’s revival http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2012/02/28/super-pac-cash-immigration-rules-and-businessweeks-revival/ Steven Brill Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:30:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: MarkTea http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2012/02/28/super-pac-cash-immigration-rules-and-businessweeks-revival/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:51:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=183#comment-138 Here’s an item from the front lines of real-world immigration law:

An illegal immigrant from Viet Nam was convicted of armed robbery and battery, sentenced to 11 years and served 6 in California. Upon release, deportation proceedings were initiated–until Viet Nam refused to issue travel docs. So he could only be held for 6 months thanks to the nut jobs on our federal courts. He just killed 5 people in San Francisco (his citizen accomplice from the original crime is still in prison!).

There are tens of thousands of these cases all over the country, the worst offender for non-returns is China, followed by India, Pakistan, Iran, Viet Nam, Cambodia, and Cuba. Love that free trade!

The relevant statute says the State Dept. is supposed to retaliate by withholding visas from offending nations. They do nothing. As does the media–see any national coverage of this SF case vs. the hysteria over the Trayvon case? Look up Jamiel Shaw on the internet, he was a truly innocent black teen killed in LA by another deportable gangster who was released instead of deported. Again a roaring silence from the media, as well as all of the “usual suspect” race nationalist organizations that are screaming bloody murder over the Trayvon case.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2012/02/28/super-pac-cash-immigration-rules-and-businessweeks-revival/comment-page-1/#comment-118 Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:32:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=183#comment-118 On the immigration “issue”, get real.

For two hundred years, from the mid-1700s to the mid-1900s, the United States benefited from the ingenuity and adaptability of essentially uneducated people from almost anywhere to settle and tame a wild country into a productive agrarian society. There were NO “government benefits” and even children were an asset in such a world. Anyone and everyone was pretty much welcome.

Our world today is quite different. The United States is a superpower with the single paper currency of world commerce. We have achieved a national standard of living the envy of the great majority of nations. We have a mostly literate, capable and motivated general population among the most productive in the world.

All American land is owned, and “we ain’t makin’ any more of it” as Will Rogers once said. In terms of finite resources such as land and government financial resources, the more people here, the less is available for and to each. It’s long past time to pull up the gangplank.

The people illegally streaming across our southern border without limit are, in the main, without skills and without literacy in English. Perhaps to an extent unprecedented, they seek to “bring their culture with them”; inasmuch as they (and their descendants) have openly demonstrated a distinct reluctance to assimilate into American society.

Much of the unreported and untaxed money they earn is sent back to family in their countries of origin. Their children overfill our public schools and classes, get free meals, medical care, school materials, etc. for the asking that Americans must not only provide for themselves, but pay the additional taxes from which such “benefits” are paid.

Many social services in the United States are available to people that are NOT citizens, which is one of the primary reasons a successful crossing of the southern American border translates direcrtly into an incredibly “better life” here than “home”. We need to recognize that each immigrant child is, until adulthood, an unnecessary and unwanted drain on America’s financial resources. “We, the people” just can’t afford to keep doing what we are now doing for millions and millions of people that shouldn’t even be here.

I think the politicians who have allowed all this to come about have sold this country “down the river” to “buy the votes” of such illegals, especially since children of illegals born here are automatically American Citizens. We need to change that.

Every illegal that finds work takes a position that otherwise would have been filled by a legal citizen, hispanic or not, we need to cut off the incentives and roll up the welcome mat except for those immigrants with skills America needs. Our immigration laws are clear and reasonable, but they have been largely ignored. We need to change that, retroactively and with consistency and determination.

People who want to become Americans learn and speak English. No more school materials, instruction, driver’s license information, voter information, etc. in Spanish.
Those illegals brandishing Mexican flags, t-shirts, or car stickers should be immediately arrested and returned to their country of origin, dedicating their lives and efforts to improving the society with which they identify!

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By: Gordon2352 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2012/02/28/super-pac-cash-immigration-rules-and-businessweeks-revival/comment-page-1/#comment-117 Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:16:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=183#comment-117 Sorry, but your inclusion of this quote “as the Post explained, “a large majority of the 11 million illegal immigrants are unskilled or low-skilled Mexicans [who] have no relatives over age 18 who are either U.S. citizens or permanent residents in possession of green cards,” strikes me as being somewhat lacking a basis in fact.

For one thing, no one really knows how many illegal immigrants there really are in this country. I have seen that number quoted for years without any change whatsoever.

Many of these illegal immigrants are not just “unskilled or low-skilled” workers, since many have been picked up in raids on relatively high-paying jobs (the meat packing industry comes to mind).

And not all of them are Mexican.

Given the fact of their typical “extended family” structure, I seriously doubt that they have “no relatives over age 18 who are either U.S. citizens or permanent residents in possession of green cards”.

Maybe instead of just repeating meaningless “statistics” without question, it would be better to examine the immigration laws in some detail.

Your article attempts to cover too much with too little factual data.

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