Comments on: How Obamacare burns smokers, the Economist’s anonymous staff, and New York City’s bike-sharing program http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/ Steven Brill Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:30:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: LoganFlatt http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/comment-page-1/#comment-455 Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:41:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1152#comment-455 Re: Economist journalist questions: you should post the questions to Quora.com — someone will send the questions to someone at the Economist and a journalist may answer the question.

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By: eugeniub http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/comment-page-1/#comment-454 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 16:29:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1152#comment-454 This is one of the most interesting and least fulfilling articles I’ve ever read. (I probably should have expected that…)

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By: SaveRMiddle http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/comment-page-1/#comment-453 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 16:04:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1152#comment-453 Interesting how ACA made the choice to ignore Obesity (and thus, the “thru the roof” costs of prolonging the life of a diabetic using mind blowing quantities of prescription drugs).

Oh, maybe I just answered my own thought. The Prescription Drug market.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:35:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1152#comment-452 Smokers are people like any other. They were not born addicted. They chose to smoke, and addiction is the normal follow-on of that choice. The financial consequences of smoking are also the normal follow-on of abusing one’s lungs and respiratory capacity.

Such self-inflicted damage is the undeniable result of one or more choices of questionable intelligence the rest of society could not reject. They can, however, reject the legitimacy of such individual choice to be a “problem of society”.

If you set your own house on fire, “we, the people” will not repair it or give you a new one. You are “on your own”. Choices MUST have consequences.

Over time, those who participate in life and observe “cause” and “effect” become more wise than those who don’t. But that’s another “choice” with “consequences”.

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By: keebo http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/comment-page-1/#comment-451 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:35:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1152#comment-451 The smokers should be put on programs that pay them to quit by lowering their rate to what others pay and if they are not successful they pay more. The penalty for non-disclosure could be a retroactive financial penalty (they are made aware of at the start) that they will pay if and when their deception is recognized.

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By: Bob9999 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/comment-page-1/#comment-450 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:33:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1152#comment-450 About three decades ago, I read the Economist regularly and carefully for several years, for all of the reasons the magazine is praised in this article. But I stopped reading it when I found myself increasingly skimming the articles because I had become familiar enough with the point of view of the magazine that I knew what was coming next and/or had read it before (in the Economist). On the few occasions I’ve picked it up since then, it has seemed the same. It’s a good magazine, but very much constructed around a point of view (an economist’s point of view, it seems).

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By: auger http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/comment-page-1/#comment-449 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:09:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1152#comment-449 at 7/pack in my neighborhood, my prior (35 year) pack a day habit was up to 2550/year, or about 13% of a 20,000 annual wage. Anyone earning less than 15,000 is forced into medicaid, or charity care – and may continue to smoke in peace. And the group remaining would spend about the same for insurance as they now pay to smoke. Not a bad deal. Nothing worse than advice from a reformed addict

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By: QuidProQuo http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/comment-page-1/#comment-448 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:54:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1152#comment-448 Re: the whole smoker premium thing, it’s kind of illegal since drug addicts ARE fully covered with no adjustment in premiums. So if nicotine is a drug, which it is, then smokers are really in the same classification as drug users and there should be NO discrimination to them since they need treatment for their addiction. Right? Cause drug addiction is drug addiction and saying heroin is less of a pre-existing drug abuse drug than nicotine seems pretty stupid if you ask me.

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By: BidnisMan http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2013/10/08/how-obamacare-burns-smokers-the-economists-anonymous-staff-and-new-york-citys-bike-sharing-program/comment-page-1/#comment-446 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:51:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1152#comment-446 Re: Smoking: Every person on mine and my wife’s sides of the family who once smoked no longer did. It is an addiction – the craving will never go away – but the decision to fulfill the craving is always a choice.
Re: The Economists – in my twenties I read this magazine a lot (strange, I know) and can attest to its quality. I want to point out that the quality may just be because ‘career builders’ have no incentive to print sensation rubbish to attract attention to themselves…something Reuters should pay attention to.

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