Comments on: The mysterious allure of cruises, Al Sharpton conflict check, and doing the math on Ukraine bailouts http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/03/11/the-mysterious-allure-of-cruises-al-sharpton-conflict-check-and-doing-the-math-on-ukraine-bailouts/ Steven Brill Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:30:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Bob9999 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/03/11/the-mysterious-allure-of-cruises-al-sharpton-conflict-check-and-doing-the-math-on-ukraine-bailouts/comment-page-1/#comment-527 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:48:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1465#comment-527 On Ukrainian bailouts, it looks that the optimal solution is to enable the Ukraine to be able to pull of a political mess that can survive over the medium term. Quite frankly, the people now “running” the Ukraine do not appear to be extremely reliable. The former vice president (now in Germany for back surgery for injuries sustained in prison under the old regime) talks about guerrilla warfare if the Russians take over Eastern Ukraine. That’s crazy talk, because it will only lead the Russians to take over Western Ukraine, too. The Ukrainian parliament has postured through the Crimean situation, but they appear to have done nothing. There are news reports that the admirable mid-level Ukrainian commanders in Crimea, who engaged in those televised non-violent confrontation with Russian special forces, had no support or direction from Kiev. And when they called Kiev to ask for guidance they were told to do what they thought was right. I would hate to go very far down the road with Kiev as my comrade.

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By: lkofenglish http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/03/11/the-mysterious-allure-of-cruises-al-sharpton-conflict-check-and-doing-the-math-on-ukraine-bailouts/comment-page-1/#comment-526 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:12:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1465#comment-526 one look at the ruble and i sense “Russian Banker heartburn” already. The Ukrainian dollar has done no better. This is a catastrophe all the way around…I know of no one who truly saw this coming or as some type of beneficial outcome…for anyone.

Here’s hoping it doesn’t lead to open warfare. Minefield on the Continent of Europe? Unbelievable.

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By: chyron http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/03/11/the-mysterious-allure-of-cruises-al-sharpton-conflict-check-and-doing-the-math-on-ukraine-bailouts/comment-page-1/#comment-525 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:33:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1465#comment-525 Re 3
Do you suggest to send US-sponsored gas and oil to Europe too?

As – with such sanctions that your heart votes for – there’ll be no sense in selling our fossil fuels to hostile nazi-supporters’ regimes. Lucky China, lucky Quatar and Saudi – first will get a discount, latters will benefit from 300% price hike. And unlucky European and US taxpayers that will be paying for that feast.

PS BTW did you tried to assess case of lot of chinese and other non-europeans deciding that your bonds and banks are fraud and try to relocate?

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/03/11/the-mysterious-allure-of-cruises-al-sharpton-conflict-check-and-doing-the-math-on-ukraine-bailouts/comment-page-1/#comment-524 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:27:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1465#comment-524 “…should or could [the U.S.) attach a condition to our bailout that Ukraine not be allowed to send money to any country that has violated international law by invading its territory?”

I’m utterly unconvinced that international banksters would go along with any measure that allowed any nation to stiff another for payments legitimately due for energy products ordered, delivered and consumed already. It’s also a bit of a stretch to believe that western Europe can get through the next several winters without Russian gas, etc.

Without some viable and immediate alternative with which to limit Russian economic/political blackmail against ratification of meaningful sanctions by EU members, who’s kidding whom here?

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By: Wantunbiasednew http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/03/11/the-mysterious-allure-of-cruises-al-sharpton-conflict-check-and-doing-the-math-on-ukraine-bailouts/comment-page-1/#comment-523 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:44:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1465#comment-523 hhj

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By: Wantunbiasednew http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/03/11/the-mysterious-allure-of-cruises-al-sharpton-conflict-check-and-doing-the-math-on-ukraine-bailouts/comment-page-1/#comment-522 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:43:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1465#comment-522 Invasion of Crimea by Russia and inability of US and NATO to react gave strong signal to the world.
There is only one ally you can always depend on: NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
I think that the order of countries gaining nuclear capabilities would be the following:
Japan,
Iran,
South Korea,
Brazil,
Germany/UE (US independent one).
For each and every of the upper mentioned countries it is a credible move. Examples of Israel-With (no current problems with Arabs after 3 wars after WWII that nearly ended in new Holocaust) and Ukraine-Without (full daylight land grab in Europe) speak for themselves.
But
If we start from the beginning, it was the United States of America that first breached the most important rule made after WWII, rule that was the ground for the longest period of peace in Europe: No borders in Europe will ever be changed. (Unless mutually agreed by all interested parties).
Creation of KOSOVO by Western countries legalizes to some extent recent invasion by Russia.
Well, in southern California (south and east of San Diego) there is a 3000 square miles area with 65% Mexican majority. We will organize referendum next month, like this one in KOSOVO and create an independent country of North Mexicania, I think you won’t mind ? Vox populi vox dei.

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