Comments on: How to answer the Jill Abramson equal pay question http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/ Steven Brill Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:30:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: p19 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-575 Fri, 23 May 2014 22:31:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-575 All this bunk about equal pay is inaccurate and stupid. It all boils down to this. A person is worth as much as they are willing to work for.

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By: GA_Chris http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-574 Tue, 20 May 2014 16:07:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-574 I get a lot of the analysis, and also to me the $40k disparity in base is not really enough to prve discrimination… If she thinks it is then I am guessing there are many other poor judgement calls she has made that lead to her dismissal…

People need to stop looking at people in roles in a vacuum but to look at the full picture. Example: I have more or less the same role as 2 female colleagues… I know one earns about 20%, because she is earlier in her career and has less experience, despite doing the same role. The other lady is older, has a phD and earns about 20% more than me. Is there discrimination? If you look at the roles as is, then yes, but if you look at what each person brings to the table then it’s fair.

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By: ToshiroMifune http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-573 Tue, 20 May 2014 15:28:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-573 How much is her male successor being paid? Maybe the problem isn’t sexism but the deepening economic struggle newspapers are facing.

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By: Bolingbroke http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-572 Mon, 19 May 2014 11:16:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-572 Great article. Have any enterprising journalists dug up the bonus figures and compared them?

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By: ExDemocrat http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-571 Mon, 19 May 2014 09:53:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-571 Why the concern over rich gentry liberals like Jill Abramson? Instead, Democratic media interpreters and other pundits should be asking about why the Obama Administration doesn’t do more to stimulate private sector investment, and to promote faster economic growth. Growth will help incomes better than any government income redistribution plan. Why waste time writing about spoiled liberal elites? Abramson is not going to starve, for crying out loud.

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By: RudyF http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-570 Sun, 18 May 2014 09:10:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-570 This is ridiculous! There is only one test when discussing fairness of pay at the executive level — was the executive paid as per the contract that he or she willingly signed?

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By: WestFlorida http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-569 Sat, 17 May 2014 22:35:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-569 Money probably had nothing to do with it. People like that get fired because people don’t like working with them.

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By: theblamee http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-568 Sat, 17 May 2014 21:21:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-568 Some have said that as soon as Jill Abramson brought an attorney into her dispute with “The New York Times” that she, and her job, were toast . . . “at will employment” and all that.

I find the whole “at will employment” concept, when joined with having rights in the work place pretty naïve. And worse, even having the balls to assume you are anything but a wage slave working at the will of your employer (in this case “The New York Times”) to be even harder to hack.

Here is a media that is struggling mainly because it was not enough for “The New York Times” to control the message but those it had hired to control the message, and its “dear” readership got a little tired of being wagged.

In a very real sense “The New York Times” is getting back what it — as both the controller of the medium, the message, its readership, its employees, and a controller of women — has been putting out there.

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By: theblamee http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-567 Sat, 17 May 2014 21:21:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-567 Some have said that as soon as Jill Abramson brought an attorney into her dispute with “The New York Times” that she, and her job, were toast . . . “at will employment” and all that.

I find the whole “at will employment” concept, when joined with having rights in the work place pretty naïve. And worse, even having the balls to assume you are anything but a wage slave working at the will of your employer (in this case “The New York Times”) to be even harder to hack.

Here is a media that is struggling mainly because it was not enough for “The New York Times” to control the message but those it had hired to control the message, and its “dear” readership got a little tired of being wagged.

In a very real sense “The New York Times” is getting back what it — as both the controller of the medium, the message, its readership, its employees, and a controller of women — has been putting out there.

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By: theblamee http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/2014/05/16/new-york-times-pay-claims-for-jill-abramson-dont-add-up/comment-page-1/#comment-566 Sat, 17 May 2014 21:07:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/stories-id-like-to-see/?p=1617#comment-566 So, the take away here is that Bill Keller was a woman?

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