Comments on: Veep debate includes zingers … and a few gaffes Tracking U.S. politics Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:39:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jonnie Blaze Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:00:21 +0000 I think Biden meant the PLO as France never kicked Syria out of Lebanon (Syrian troops remained in lebanon years after the end of the 1982-2000 war). Biden also made another gaffe when he incorrectly stated that Hamas is in control of the West Bank.

By: bubba Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:33:44 +0000 Palin ignored the questions and gave a speech. She didnt counter Biden’s slams on McCain. She basically just spit out memorized talking points and ignored everyone.

I didnt see anything to change my opinion of her. Who comes to a debate and says they dont feel like answering questions? Shes just trying to hide her ignorance and stick to lines she memorized.

By: TMA Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:27:16 +0000 the article says biden has only one major gaffe — and that one was a doozy (I still have no idea what he was alluding to — when did the US and France do anything even remotely like kicking Hezbollah out of Lebanon — what was he thinking of?) — but, in fact, he had a bunch of fairly inaccurate statements.

He said we spend more in Iraq in one month than in Afghanistan since 2001 — but in fact, we’ve spent some 170 billion in Afghanistan vs. 10 billion/month in Iraq. Maybe this is just hyperbole — nobody takes his figures seriously, right? — I suppose if he has said more in Iraq in one YEAR, then it would still be false, but at least close.

He got the duties of the vice president — the job he’s running for — wrong.

He said Obama *never* said he’d meet unconditionally with
Ahmedinijad — but not only did he say it in a debate, but Biden attacked him for it at the time!

This aside from the usual distortions (on both sides) of each others record, description of the consequences of their tax plans, etc.

By: Cassandrina Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:37:06 +0000 I loved the O’Biden rib – how could it have been a mistake.
“Hilary” has given a deeply negative take on Palin’s knowledge and understanding on this blog – How are you Hillary Clinton and are you blogging for Obama on Reuters now?

By: David Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:13:25 +0000 This is hilarious. Biden was a gaffe fiesta. He was wrong on the Constitution and the VP (see Article I [the Article that defines the legislature], Sec 3, where the only role of the VP is specified as a contingent legislative role; and Article II, Sec 1, where the VP is spoken of with no role in the executive branch (read the first line), until the president cannot serve; and Amend 25, where the VP can, with other exec officers, declare the president incapable).

He was wrong on Iraq and Afghanistan spending. Current montly spending in Iraq: ~$12 billion. Total spending in Afghanistan to date: $173 billion. And he said “I’ll say it again,” and restated the same falsehood.

He was wrong on Palestinian elections: Obama had been in office less than a week when they happened, and said nothing about them.

The US did not kick Hezbollah, or even Syria, out of Lebanon.

He was wrong on the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. All but one Republican voted against ratification, not just McCain. And for good reasons.

He was wrong about a restaurant in his home town; it’s been closed for over two decades. How often does he really mix with the people? Better check that Home Depot too.

That’s just skimming the surface, and not even getting into his misrepresentations of regulation of the secondary mortgage market, supposed deregulations that he blames the credit crisis on but which did not happen, falsehoods about the McCain health insurance plan, the Bridge to Nowhere (which he voted for every time he got the chance, as did Obama), and on and on.

The only thing uncharacteristic about Biden’s gaffomania this time is that none of them was funny. But any two of them, had they been stated by Palin, would have the media clucking over her ignorance, incompetence, inexperience, and confusion. Biden didn’t make two gaffes. He’s over 20. Good god. And this man is supposed to be competent to be vice president? It’s laughable.

By: Amber Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:02:25 +0000 Both were remarkably well “prepared.” One was prepared for years through service and experience and the other prepared through intensive cramming session in a debate camp. Biden showed an excellent grasp of the issues in general and specifics which influence these issues. His answers were based on well documented facts, some garnered from McCains own website (which amuses me to no end). Palin was incredibly put together, focused and charming. She seemed warm, passionate and vibrant. Overall I think both sides accomplished a lot more than was expected of them.

By: David Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:33:34 +0000 Politicians, like used-car salesmen, no doubt can be the most annoying of people. One might think Sarah would be different, but funny how she constantly regurgitates the single most annoying concept in this entire campaign…

The concept that they are “mavericks”. I am so sick and tired of hearing the word “maverick”!

I am a conservative, and I think I might be able to “tolerate” gay people for the next 4+ years more than I can tolerate these self-proclaiming “mavericks”. Gag me with a fork, please.

By: LMAO Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:22:20 +0000 ROFLMAO!!

October 2nd, 2008
10:52 pm GMT

Sarah Palin reminds me of my mom.

I love my mom very much.

My mom should not be in the white house.
– Posted by VegasForTheVote

By: Jermy Mild Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:06:48 +0000 HEY Jeremy,
Bit of a gaffe on your part:
Biden…apparently erroneously referring to Hezbollah instead of Syria when he talked about the United States and France coming to the aid of Lebanon.
Biden right, Jeremy wrong.
Syria was already well out of Lebanon when Israel launched its war in response to Hezbollah raids. If Lebanon and Israel both lost that campaign there is a strong case that, because of a lack of international intervention, Hezbollah won a huge propaganda victory, and their raids continued.
Also missing Biden’s real slip up on the articles of the Constitution is 8th grade material. More work needed Jeremy

By: Phil Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:00:25 +0000 Biden actually answered the questions, did a good job reigning in his tendencies toward verbosity, showed patience and courtesy in dealing with his clearly underqualified opponent, and won by a gosh-durn-it mile. Now, can we stop focusing on this ridiculous choice for veep for the Repubs. I’m bored already. The joke was funny the first time, now let’s get on with some serious business and elect a president with a mind, for a change.

By the way, a maverick is a wayward calf, usually lost and in need of rescuing and being returned to the herd before the coyotes get it… not quite the image Palin had in mind, I’m sure. Doggone it!