Comments on: Obama inauguration pastor choice: war or peace? http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/ Tracking U.S. politics Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:39:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: George E http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386623 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:53:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386623 No president even Jesus can have 100% approval rating…and the world will go on. What if Obama asks Pope Benedict to give the invocation? Will there be less of an outrage? FYI… The pope and Rick Warren share the exact views on gay marriage as the majority of CA voters. R. Warren could do himself a big favor by apologizing for his demagogic statements but at the same time reiterate his position against gay-marriage. This is what Obama expects of him and I think thats what will happen. So relax everybody…Obama wants civil unions with social protections for gays. “Marriage” is a “religious tradition” recognized by governments to establish social order.

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By: Andy Mald http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386600 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:04:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386600 To me it simply seems a problem of crass intolerance.

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By: brian lee http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386598 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:34:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386598 the bible, christians believe is the written word of god and we try to live by its teachings.rev 22;18.19 warns about adding or taking away and the consequences if we do.there is also a particular reference as a warning to men who make their living by preaching this word,and the responsibility this entails.and yet we have two involved in these postings, one suggest that jesus today would be opposed to what he came to endorse,gods word,absolutely dreadful compromise shame on you.

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By: jonathan http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386596 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:10:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386596 This IS about religion. Every single christian I know, including my father, who is a christian minister, believes that Marriage is between two committed, loving souls, regardless of their gender. He has been performing CHRISTIAN gay marriages for YEARS, because he believes that is the path of Christ – the path of love. People like Rick Warren want to use government to force their bigoted religion on the rest of us. He is attacking not just gays, but liberal, moderate, and enlightened christians everywhere who believe we can have a future free from hate.

I appreciate any attempt to engender dialogue in the culture war – but this choice comes very close to glorifying the oppressor while claiming to support the oppressed.

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By: Douglas White http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386595 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:04:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386595 Obama isnt gay and should have the opttion of having whover he wants at his inaugreation.Half of all marriages end up in divorce why make 100% as in the case of gay marriages. Its all about money and legality its not as if they can actually mate.

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By: Toni http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386593 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:44:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386593 Come on folks. You voted for change and now you scream bloody murder because it looks like that might actually happen??? I feel certain that our new president will remember who voted for him but that doesn’t mean that he has to completely ignore those who didn’t. Although I disagree with Rev. Warren’s position on the issue of the rights of gays and lesbians, I know that you can’t dismiss the opinions of those who disagree with you and expect everything to go your way. I’m no Pollyanna, I just lived thru Jim Crow.

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By: Larry Glass http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386583 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:47:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386583 Dialogue is neede with reasonable people who have divergent views. But Warren for the invocation? C’mon Barack – this a boneheaded move. Schedule a conference in April 2009 “Religion in Public Policy” or something. Not this charade of diversity. Also, we need to marginalize people who do not hold rational viewpoints. A reasonable policy disagreement is “single payor healthcare or employer provided insurance.” It is not a reasonable policy position to say “we don’t like gays and lesbians, so they shouldn’t have access to civil rights.” Civil rights are not debatable. Abortion is not up to public policy, because there are no societal implications – only religious ones. Why can’t we all just see that as the truth that it is and move on with important discussions about poverty, education, healthcare and the environment?

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By: Spaceman3 http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386580 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:48:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386580 We are talking about religion here. It’s hard to take Mr. Warren seriously when he claims to believe in talking snakes. And sure there’s bigotry there, but religion has always been sprinkled with bigotry. So this is not surprising. It is sad however, that President-Elect Obama would pander to these guys.

No matter how positive Obama may be for the country, he’s still a politician at the end of the day.

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By: Michael P. http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386578 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:18:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386578 I supported the President-elect but this week he and his whole administration lost my support. I had planned to take the day off and participate by watching and being involved in this historic inauguration. Now that the President-elect has decided that Rick Warren will deliver the invocation at his inauguration I will treat it as any other day. Actually I treat it just like Bush’s two inaugurations I will ignore them completely. Rick Warren is a wolf in sheep’s clothing he talks softly but has a big stick ready to bash other Americans he feels are not worthy of his values. Well I do not feel that the Christian Values that Rick Warren espouses represent Christ or the tenants of Christianity. Don’t believe me just listen to his statements on Youtube and the interview released today with Ann Curry.

The President-elect needs to remember who voted for him. It was not Rick Warren or even a large percentage of the people he influences with his lies and false love. On the other hand, I like millions of other Gay Americans believed in what Mr. Obama promised and voted for him. However if Rick Warren has any part in this inauguration I will no longer support anything that comes from this administration. I know that this seems petty but you have to understand that Rick Warren has made a career and a fortune out of bashing Gay Americans who in many cases are much more of a Christian than Warren will ever be.

This issue has taught this 50 year old a valuable lesson. In the future I will be open to support the Republicans and the right wingers going forward because I know where I stand with them. I know I’m screwed from the beginning. The President-elect’s campaign promises are starting to sound like the compassionate conservatism that was promised from the last administration. How long after Bush was elected did we see what compassionate conservatism really meant? I guess Obama decided to make his true feeling know before he takes office.

If Rick Warren invitation is only about inclusion then where is the speaker who believes that a African American should not be elected President of the Untied States. They exist, lots of them why should they not have a place at the inauguration table. The reason is it would be an insult to the President-elect and every other African American. This is exactly why Gay Americans feel that giving Rick Warren any role in this inauguration is an insult and strikes at the dignity of their person. Count on my vote going to whoever runs against you in 2012 if you go forward with this slap in the face to me and millions of other Americans.

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By: JimF http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2008/12/18/obama-inauguration-pastor-choice-war-or-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-386576 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:33:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=14406#comment-386576 Imagine (granted, it takes some imagination) that a gay person had been elected President and at his or her inauguration that President-elect had a pastor that served the KKK give the invocation. And then excused that as showing tolerance for a diversity of ideas.

I wonder how Obama would feel about that?

Would Obama embrace that diversity ?

At least Obama is consistent in his religious associations: Rev. Wright become a millionaire selling anti-Semitism and other hate speech, now with Wright out of favor, Obama turns to a religious facist who uses hate of gays and liberals to build his power and wields that power as club.

If you like this move, wait until Obama takes our tax money to expand Bush’s religious hand outs to $500 Million, as Obama promised during the campaign (what, did you miss that one?)

Change?

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