Comments on: Whoever runs in Minnesota stays in Minnesota? Tracking U.S. politics Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:39:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: TC Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:31:40 +0000 The reason no one says anything about Coleman being a “sore loser” is because he hasn’t lost this election.

Just recount all the votes again, as they did multiple times in Washington state in the 2004 governors race. Both Franken and Coleman should be equally open to this, so this race can come to a democratic end. After all, it is the right thing to do.

Eric. In your post you were trying to divert this issue. Stay on task.

Let the full recount begin.

By: Eric Boehlert Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:38:23 +0000 Traditionally, candidates who lost and cried foul had a rather short window to prove their case before the media lost patience and started calling the candidate out as petulant and self-involved. Just ask Al Gore, who was hounded in the press by the specter of the “sore loser” label practically from the moment he withdrew his concession in the early morning hours following Election Day. I doubt a day went by during the Florida recount when there wasn’t a “sore loser” reference to Gore in the press. In Nexis, I found nearly 900 “sore loser” press mentions in Gore articles between November and December 2000.

For some reason, Coleman has been able to avoid the dreaded “sore loser” label, one that can be a career-killer for any politician. Instead, the corporate media has given Coleman and his Republican supporters an open canvas on which to operate. A Nexis search finds just a handful of “sore loser” media mentions regarding Coleman since November. As Coleman and his attorneys look over their recount legal options, they in no way have to be concerned about or factor into play the potential “sore loser” meme that could do real damage to his effort. They can play hardball with impunity because they’re getting a free pass from the press.

The strange part is that Coleman’s getting that press pass even though some members of the Republican Party have been brazenly open in discussing the Minnesota case in terms of a blatant stall campaign specifically designed to thwart Democrats from securing a 59th seat in the U.S. Senate.

“The battle in Washington is real. Every day in the Senate without Al Franken is a great day,” Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) recently told a Tulsa audience. Republicans back the idea of Coleman appealing his case indefinitely because a long fight is worth it to them if it keeps Franken from becoming the 59th Senate Democrat, which would give President Barack Obama an advantage over the next two years. Even when Republicans cast the litigation marathon as a way to simply freeze out Franken, the corporate media and its army of commentators remain silent, reluctant to cast aspersions on Coleman’s rope-a-dope campaign.

By: TC Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:37:26 +0000 Reid has no right to seat a senator from a state while the legal system is in force. It is not a forgone conclusion Franken won. I have seen this bs before with the governors race in Washington state.

By: skeptic94514 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:54:15 +0000 Harry Reid should seat Al Franken immediately. When the Repubicans had 50+ vote and not 60+, they used to threaten to remove the fillibuster.
Harry Reid should do the same. Harry, please grow a pair, seat Al Franken and save this country by passing Obama’s programs.

By: tom b Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:19:38 +0000 Yeah it’s goping on too long and Franken will probably pull it out in the end. As a Minnesota guy, I voted for him but knew that he was a pitiably weak candidate. Norm was rated as the single most vulnerable Repub Senate seat until Franken was put out there by the MN DFL worthies, those who have given us a long list [a long LONG list] of weak senatorial candidates. What was Al’s qualification? That he went to high school in Minnesota? How ridiculous was that?

By: John Galt Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:11:43 +0000 Al Franken is a disgrace. Coleman and the GOP should never give up until they have defeated the corrupt and mentally ill Democrat party.

By: Stefan Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:32:27 +0000 What amazes me is the idea that Minnesota is ruled by the Democrats – the vote is so close, it’s clear that things aren’t as cut and dried as people say.

Larry says: “Democrats have a way of magically defying the odds and conjuring up just enough missing ballots to put them over the top in any recount”

Ok, but the GOP has a good ability in taking things all the way to SCOTUS and getting their way then – in special rulings that are meant to be for just that situation and never again.

I think Bob is right: “Coleman should learn to take a loss like a man. This comes from a republican. His stalling makes him and the republican party look like a bunch of babies, just like Al Gore and the democrats in 2000.”

By: TC Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:12:39 +0000 The race for governor in Washington state is a case in point in your comments Larry.

Dino Rossi won on election night against Christine Gregoire. Since it was within 1 percent, it triggered an automatic recount. After the recount Rossi was still the winner, but with a slightly smaller margin. So, a second recount resulted because those are the rules in Washington state. Rossi won the second recount, but with an even smaller margin. But here is the kicker, by the rules in Washington state, if the party (democrat or republican) that is losing comes up with the money (in this case it was something like 250 to 300,000 dollars), then a final recount can occur. Well, low and behold, the democrat Gregoire won by about a hundred or so votes. There was nothing Rossi could do about it, so after many recounts, he finally lost the race to the democrat. It was and still is a travesty.

Seattle is a very liberal city in Washington and even though Rossi won 32 of the 36 (I am close…)counties, Seattle still controlled the outcome and their numbers kept changing, ballots in the unlikeliest places…Same as in the Coleman/Franken race.

When it all started the chairman of the state Democrat party said, “we are going to recount the race until we get it right!” Well, the democrats do indeed have a way of pulling an election out even though they lost.

So, I am all for Coleman fighting for this because it stinks. I have seen it all before and it stinks. Franken the democrats did not win this election.

By: Broward County Fl Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:24:04 +0000 I’m not a lawyer but Colmans plan to use the Bush V Gore argument seems off base. For that plan to work he would need to get the supreme court to stop the counting. That cow is out of the barn. The counting is done, too late to stop that. His argument seems to have alot of hairpin curves and steep drop-offs. Frankins Argument looks stright Wide and flat, an easy road.

By: Larry Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:18:43 +0000 Democrats have a way of magically defying the odds and conjuring up just enough missing ballots to put them over the top in any recount. Coleman should’ve saved the taxpayers a lot of money and conceded back when he was ahead.