Comments on: House Democrats block Republican call for probe of Pelosi http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/ Tracking U.S. politics Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:39:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: TC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391560 Wed, 27 May 2009 00:21:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391560 getplaning. No it does not vindicate Nancy Pelosi. Nancy lied and then lied again until finally her advisors told her to make no more comments. She is just a plain old fashioned liar. In addition, don’t even try to equate her to the CIA which really does saves lives, even yours. It is quite amazing how you conjure up the evils of republicans while always defending anything democrat. But you know by now that is a senseless story. The problems we face are not democrat or republican because they are all guilty of our downfall.

The senate intelligence committee is part of congress right? Well, that is the problem. It isn’t as though they are into objective reporting. They are out to demonize the republicans so they can remain in power. I wouldn’t bet my life they are reporting facts. Since you are into half truths, I would be willing to bet that’s the bottom line with their report too. I know, it goes both ways, so save the the evils of republicans because it misses the point (there are enough evil democrats to level the playing field).

As for the 20 million plus Rush, Hannity and so on listeners. Again, a tenuous assertion…no you are just an angry liberal. You act as though the vast numbers of listeners just tuned in to Rush and all. He has been on the air for 20 or so years and his audience never falters, only grows. But the tenuous assertion is that you they only just recently got on board with them. I really think you are grasping for straws because but you keep getting it wrong…not only that, you just don’t get it. The majority in this country hold conservative values, not liberal progressive values.

Air America can only wish they had a 10th of the listeners like conservative talk radio does. It never will…

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By: getplaning http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391557 Tue, 26 May 2009 22:59:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391557 “To give any information publicly to congress which will immediately become public knowledge endangers the people they are trying to protect.”

Thanks, TC. You just vindicated Nancy Pelosi.

“but when it comes to the CIA, it saves lives. So, your assertion is indeed tenuous because it only gives one side of the story.”

The one side of the story that matters is the Senate Intelligence Committee report which states that the Enhanced Interrogation Program did not stop any attacks, did not save any lives, and put Americans around the world, including those in the armed forces, in more, not less, danger. Fact, not tenuous half truth.

Your point on “good soldiers” is taken, however, the half truth comes from the side that questions the patriotism of their opposition, not those who question the wisdom of certain policies.

As to the 20 million ditto-bots out there, well, they must care, why else would they spend four hours a day listening to Rush, followed by four hours of Sean?

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By: TC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391555 Tue, 26 May 2009 21:50:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391555 getplaning. One thing you miss and I stated this in another post is that the United States does not give away secrets that would hurt the United States and its citizens. You call the CIA liars. Well to many Americans they are doing a dangerous job protecting all of us. To give any information publicly to congress which will immediately become public knowledge endangers the people they are trying to protect.

So, you can turn a “lie” into a negative, but when it comes to the CIA, it saves lives. So, your assertion is indeed tenuous because it only gives one side of the story. You always tell a half truth which, in and of itself is a lie.

In addition Gates, Mullen and Petraus now work for Obama. He is the president the the commander in chief. They are being good soldiers and no one should expect them to publicly fight the president. They were good solders working for Bush, so at least they are consistent by doing their jobs for the president. As for Powell, he endorsed Obama, so there is no suprise there he supports him now. Your point once again is tenuous at best because it only tells half the truth.

I don’t think the 20 million plus Limbaugh listeners care one way or the other about the people who now work for Obama. You would like to think they do, but they don’t. If Limbaugh wasn’t a force to be reckoned with, the liberals would leave him alone. But they don’t, because he a threat to their tenuous and fragile existence. The liberal left will not be in power for long, but they can do a lot of damage in the meantime.

So yes, your assertions are tenuous half truths.

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By: getplaning http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391554 Tue, 26 May 2009 20:13:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391554 TC-That the CIA regularly lies to Congress is a well documented fact, not a tenuous assertion. That conservatives lined up behind the White House to defend the sacrifice of CIA front operation Brewster-Jennings for political payback is a fact, not a tenuous assertion. It was, as you like to say, “politics as usual.”

On a side note, on the subject of closing Guantanamo, Obama’s only mistake was promising to close Guantanamo sooner than it can realistically be accomplished.

But what must be driving the Limbaugh listeners absolutely nuts is, we now have a situation in which Obama’s position — the one the right thinks is dangerous, naive, and terrorist-friendly — has been endorsed by Bush’s Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, Bush’s chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Admiral Mullen, Bush’s Secretary of State, General Colin Powell, and Bush’s head U.S. Central Command, General David Petraeus.

Didn’t conservatives say that you can never go against the military or you hate the troops?

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By: TC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391525 Mon, 25 May 2009 15:52:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391525 getplaning. Here is the point you always miss on your way to demonizing republicans with tenuous assertions.

Pelosi better watch her step if they wants a so called “truth commission”. Her hands are as dirty (by her public actions) as the rest of them. If she wants to pursue this, then so be it. But she will be further exposed for the lies she has told recently. It’s hard to know what her story is, because she keeps changing it.

That is as simple as it gets. But those who are accused will fight fire with fire. And many of them are your democrat party friends.

However, I like what is going on. It keeps Obama and congress occupied which will hopefully minimize the “big government” plans they want to force on the rest of us. They opened the can of worms, now they have to live with the consequences.

On a side note, Obama made a huge mistake with Guantanamo and is now reimplementing Bush era policies. But it doesn’t stop there. There are a lot of Bush policies quietly being held or reimplemented now that it shows he was right to do so.

That what he gets for being a big mouth about the “failed” Bush years. But I know it won’t matter to you, you are a democrat party apologist.

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By: getplaning http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391518 Mon, 25 May 2009 03:59:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391518 The fake Republican outrage over Nancy Pelosi’s that CIA briefers directly misled Congress, has been amusing to watch. The CIA has a rich history of lying to Congress, and they all know it. The Agency’s lies to Congress did not begin in the post-9/11 period, but they certainly reached a high-point during that period which the GOP has now chosen for their fully-politicized, hoped-for distraction, in targeting the current Democratic Speaker of the House.

The GOP hypocrisy in charging that Pelosi has somehow hurt the morale of The Agency, and that Obama’s release of the Bush Torture Memos has endangered CIA operatives, has been all the more amusing to witness, in their complete and entire selective amnesia of their party’s own 100%, unqualified support of a White House which, for the first time in the history of this nation, had publicly revealed the identity of a covert CIA operative. In unapologetically exposing Valerie Plame, and completely destroying her entire, crucial network monitoring the trafficking of WMD in the Middle East along with it, untold damage was brought not only to CIA operatives risking their lives in the defense of this nation, but also to the national security of the nation itself, which was significantly blinded in the Middle East — and on the issue of WMDs, of all things — at a time when we were theoretically going to war there, over that very issue.

Yet, the Republicans choose to side with the criminals in treason, over the “morale” or “effectiveness” of The Agency in their shortsighted and inexcusable politicization of the matter. It doesn’t get much more absurd than all of that. Unless you add to it the Democrats complete incapacity to take on and tear down the opportunistic Republicans on their ridiculous, phony defense of the CIA.

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By: libertyville http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391501 Sun, 24 May 2009 10:25:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391501 Open, honest, transparent, ethical. Words that will not describe the US Congress and words never studied by its leadership.

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By: Gorgegirl http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391500 Sun, 24 May 2009 09:02:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391500 Unfortunately, the investigation that the Republicans wanted was only of what Nancy Pelosi was briefed on. Why should they care? She wasn’t even the ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee in 2002 when the briefing took place. Instead, why aren’t they proposing an investigation into the Bush administration which employed these torture interrogation methods before even getting a legal opinion and then apparently was able to coax a few lawyers in the Justice Dept to say they weren’t torture? Is it only reasonable to conclude that perhaps the CIA briefing for the Democrats was different than the briefing for the Republicans? And that perhaps the CIA records weren’t accurate? Afterall, former Senator Bob Graham (FL) says he wasn’t in attendance at several of the meetings the CIA says he attended. But the real question should be: Why, when Rep Jane Harmon, the ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, wrote a letter protesting the torture methods, a response was “it is legal”??? Why was there not an investigation by both parties as to the legality of the torture methods?
What Nancy Pelosi knew and when she knew it is immaterial. What Dick Cheney or George W. Bush ordered and who followed through on his orders is material. And, it appears Judge Bybee was promised a Federal bench position for his letter in support of the torture.
Why doesn’t that matter to people- both Democrats and Republicans?

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By: TheEnforcer http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391488 Sat, 23 May 2009 22:56:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391488 Pelosi thought they meant surf boarding.

Silly Nancy.

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By: TheEnforcer http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/05/21/house-democrats-block-republican-call-for-probe-of-pelosi/comment-page-1/#comment-391487 Sat, 23 May 2009 22:54:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=17644#comment-391487 If it was the Republicans…….there would be hell to pay.

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