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Cheney touches a nerve at the White House

August 31, 2009

Well there he goes again. Former Vice President Dick Cheney has got ‘em all riled up again at the Obama White House over his Fox News Sunday interview. GUANTANAMO-CHENEY/

Cheney feels strongly that the tough interrogation techniques employed against terrorism suspects by the Bush administration worked, in spite of the complaints about human rights.

He went on Fox to sharply criticize Attorney General Eric Holder’s decision to launch an investigation into the alleged abuse of prisoners held by the CIA during the Bush administration.

Cheney cried foul at what he called an “intensely partisan, politicized look back at the prior administration.”

So it came up at Monday’s White House news briefing, and Obama’s press secretary Robert Gibbs was armed with a response.

“This is the same song and dance we’ve heard since literally the first day of our administration. So I don’t have … a lot to say. I think the vice president, if you watched some of his interview, was clearly — clearly had his facts on a number of things wrong,” Gibbs said.

Like what, for instance?

OBAMA/Gibbs said Cheney’s assertion that the White House would be making interrogation decisions for a high-value detainee interrogation group at the FBI was wrong.

“I would add this — I’m not entirely sure that Dick Cheney’s predictions on foreign policy have borne a whole lot of fruit over the last eight years in a way that have been either positive or, to the best of my recollection, very correct,” Gibbs said.

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Photo credit: Reuters/Joshua Roberts (Cheney speaking about national security at AEI in May), Reuters/Kevin Lamarque (Gibbs making a point in February)

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cheney has been proven a liar so many times and in so many ways why does Reuters – besides the obvious – give cheney even the slightest bit of credibility!? cheney just likes to inflict pain. so lets just move on.

Posted by Betty | Report as abusive
 

Gee, seems Dick doesn’t like being second guessed about things which turned out so wrong.

Posted by borisjimbo | Report as abusive
 

Dick Cheney offered quite a bit of nonsense on the RNC News Channel yesterday, but perhaps the most entertaining thing was hearing him talk about how the Obama White House has hurt his feelings. Apparently, the current president was supposed to seek out the former vice president for advice on national security matters.

Most people recall the Bush/Cheney era a little differently. Cheney thinks it was a sterling success when it came to national security and counter-terrorism. After all, except for the catastrophic events of 9/11, and the anthrax attacks against Americans who opposed the Iraq war, and terrorist attacks against U.S. allies, and the terrorist attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Bush’s inability to capture those responsible for 9/11, and waging an unnecessary war that inspired more terrorists, and the success terrorists had in exploiting Bush’s international unpopularity, the Bush/Cheney record on counter-terrorism was awesome.

After the previous administration established a record like that, President Obama didn’t ask Cheney for tips? The nerve!

I am curious about something, though. Terrorists first attacked the World Trade Center in 1993, early on in President Clinton’s first year in office. Six people were killed, hundreds more were injured. The Clinton administration caught those responsible, subjected them to the U.S. criminal justice system, and foreign terrorists did not strike again on U.S. soil during Clinton’s terms in office.

So, at any point in 2001, did the Bush White House turn to Bill Clinton and Al Gore and ask, “How did you do it? What were the keys to keeping this country safe over that period of time?” I think we can probably guess the answer.

For that matter, did Al Gore find a sympathetic cable news channel to broadcast his complaints about how it “offends the hell” out of him that Bush/Cheney didn’t seek the previous administration’s guidance? After all, Clinton/Gore had a track record of eight years of defending the nation against any further attacks from foreign terrorists. The approach of the Bush/Cheney administration should have been to go to those people who were involved in that policy, right? Right?

Posted by Steve | Report as abusive
 

Since Mr. Cheney loves his info gathering techniques so much that he defends every inch of them; I have a suggestion! Officials should strap Mr. Cheney down and waterboard him to see if he is telling the truth. I know that he has a weak heart; but by his own judgment: if the person being questioned dies in the questioning, it is ok, because it is in the interest of national security and would just be collatoral damage which is unintended and forgivable.
It is a silly suggestion and will never happen. It is suggested only in jest, but it shows the depths of self interested drivel a politician speak for someone else but never, never will allow to happen to himself. What a hypocrite!

Posted by jlb | Report as abusive
 

I think the responsibility lies at the top of the administration that asked for torture to begin by renaming it as “enhanced interrogation techniques”, (even Ronald Regan, called the practice of torture “abhorrent”), is anyone surprised that Cheney is now crying about the investigations.

Posted by Paul | Report as abusive
 

Time will tell if the change in polices will help Obama ,i am sure that the Bush presidency was changed by the 911 attack and it would have been interesting to know how the democrats would have responded if it had been in their watch,we can only speculate. But with out a doubt the war in Afphganistan has deteriorated under Obamas watch and because of past statements he cannot hide on this war.If wars are lost and won on moral,then there is a problem because of recent events. Obamas actions have certainly been a boost to the enemy and if this is played out by subsequent mass attacks then his legacy is defined.

Posted by brian lee | Report as abusive
 

I think if you search deep enough you’ll be able to prosecute Dick. This guy shots his own friend on the face, but thinks he can handle the gun of the U.S.
This guy truly disgusts me, and I honestly believe if we can make peace in the middle east by giving them Dick and Bush over to Iran or North Korea, it would be a very nice exchange, noting that they are too axis of evil from which are blind to their own wrongdoing.
Dick…. you’re lucky man. You’re free even though because of your administration many people have died and Bush/Dick era is not much different than Nazi/Stalin. They too did not have consideration for those who suffer as long as it was for the good of their own country.

 

In May of 2005, hundreds of Afghans rioted over reports that interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had flushed at least one copy of the Koran down a toilet. Then, at least four people died and many were hurt after police fired shots to disperse anti-US protests in Jalalabad, Afghanistan. This is well documented cause/effect. How many people have died because of the torture techniques used at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, or secret prisons abroad? How many roadside bombs? How many terrorists recruited?
I think the terrorists rue the day that Cheney and his ilk are out of office and not redefining the laws of interrogation to include torture. There will be less fodder for our enemies to stir up trouble.
And what our country was founded on, what it stands for, and what so many fought and died for, does not include what Cheney so heartily defends.

Posted by Carey Mook | Report as abusive
 

Its such popular to be “Cheney bashing” when he comes into the spotlight having said that anything negative you say about Obama seems like the press is all up in arms.I just have a feeling that there’s a withch hunt for cheney by the same people who have also got it wrong this time around.Look at the new adminstration for instance. Surge in troops in afghanistan and still a fake are farcical elections.Drones in Pakistan and blar blar blar. My point is whats the difference between both your admistrations ? here’s my take on it. You’ll seem to buy arguments from a leader that talks well rather than acts well. Bush never sugar coated things but probably kept you’ll a bit safe.

Posted by Austin | Report as abusive
 

Betty the accusation, is a better argument if you accompany it with examples, hopefully ones that at the time democrats were not also complainant too as well.The answer to many of these investigations would be the word impeachment but if this practice spread in Washington someone could get hurt in the stampede of democrats trying to get out town!

Posted by brian lee | Report as abusive
 

Cheney has lied about the legality of warrantless wiretapping, on the definition of torture, on whether any valuable intelligence was obtained by using torture, on who gave the approval for the use of torture on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, on what kind of prisoners were being held at the gulag at Guantanamo, on how many of those prisoners, once released, returned to “the battlefield,” on conditions at Guantanamo, on the fairness of military commissions at Guantanamo, on the reasons for invading Iraq, aluminum tubes, reconstituted nuclear weapons, Valerie Plame, chemical weapons, on whether the US has been attacked since 9-11, (anthrax, anyone?) No one believes a word he says, brian, except the last of the dead enders, who are in the last throes, if you will, of denial.

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive
 

Actually, if Cheney wasn’t telling the truth, then the White House and the left wouldn’t pay any attention to what he says. In typical fashion, the radical left is trying to discredit the truth he speaks by destroying the person. No investigation into anything the previous administration “allegedly” did has amounted to anything of value. The story dies…as it goes with all things the left tries to destroy. The left has no argument, so they always try to destroy, destroy, destroy… those who tell the truth. Won’t work…hasn’t yet…

Posted by TC | Report as abusive
 

The White House doesn’t pay any attention to what Cheney says. As the article above states, Cheney goes on Fox to criticize the Obama administration, not the other way around. When the press gaggle asks Robert Gibbs what the White House thinks about Cheney’s sniping, his response is, “He has been wrong about everything else, so why should we care?” You can’t argue with people who make up their own facts, so what’s the point?

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive
 

Yah, sure, you betcha. The White House didn’t ignore the questions. Gibbs made sure he did the liberal thing, he put in a dig. Just couldn’t resist. So, if Cheney wasn’t telling the truth, then it would have been ignored…Period! It wasn’t ignored. And Gibbs can say all he wants about the facts, he doesn’t support anything…just puts in a dig…That’s all he and the White House has. Along with the liberals who are out to destroy people…They have a long history of trying, but not much success.

So Cheney goes on FOX? Okay, sounds like what all people do when they go on any news program on any station. FOX doesn’t go on Cheney. That’s exactly what your statement was implying and it made no sense whatsoever….None!

Anyway, Cheney is right to speak out against the lies being perpetrated by the liberals and that Attorney General who keeps running into a brick wall because he has nothing…Nothing at all…

Posted by TC | Report as abusive
 

Wow, TC, that’s weak, even for you…

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive
 

Just speaking the truth. The White House and left reacts because they know Cheney is speaking the truth.

It all yields nothing for the liberals, like you. I notice how you are staying away from the story about the low Obama poll numbers. Like I have said many time before and say now, you cherry pick and twist the information to appear you are correct. However, you have nothing…nothing at all.

Posted by TC | Report as abusive
 

Obama’s poll numbers are not the topic of this thread, so it is TC that is staying away from the story here. Cheney is a laughingstock, as are the dead-enders who still believe in aluminum tubes and mushroom clouds.

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive
 

Actually, Cheney is not a laughing stock. He is speaking the truth, which I have made clear. If Cheney were not a threat, then they would not speak to anything he says…PERIOD! You cherry picked Gibbs statement, like you do everything. You stay away from the information you know is the truth. So, go ahead and divert the attention away from the facts…Cheney speaks the truth. The administration has nothing…nothing at all.

Posted by TC | Report as abusive
 

The question was asked at a press briefing. Of course Gibbs has to answer, and his answer is the truth. Cheney has been wrong about everything, and has a habit of making things up, so why take him seriously? But I have a question for you, TC. What truth does Dick Cheney speak? You haven’t made any points at all, other than blubbering about Obama’s 49% approval rating.

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive
 

Here is the point getplaning. Cheney was there, he knows the facts. He is speaking the facts. Gibbs doesn’t know the facts, but he did answer will a clear dig to the former Vice President. I know I have made my point with you. Gibbs wouldn’t have said a word if he stood on a position of strength. He wouldn’t have to if Cheney was wrong. But, as you know, he gave a pretty stupid response (normal for this guy…worse press secretary ever…) and that is not acceptable.

You once again twist the argument around, because you don’t have an argument to disprove Cheney.

Here is the truth. We have not been attacked since 9/11. I attribute that to Bush and Cheney and I owe them a debt of gratitude for keeping me and my family safe. That is his whole point…it’s all about keeping the American people safe. He shouldn’t back down from doing the right thing….and he hasn’t.

Posted by TC | Report as abusive
 

I guess the fact that more Americans have died as a result of terrorism since Bush and Cheney took power than all previous administrations combined is lost on you. To borrow a bit of text from someone else’s post above,

–Most people recall the Bush/Cheney era a little differently. Cheney thinks it was a sterling success when it came to national security and counter-terrorism. After all, except for the catastrophic events of 9/11, and the anthrax attacks against Americans who opposed the Iraq war, and terrorist attacks against U.S. allies, and the terrorist attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Bush’s inability to capture those responsible for 9/11, and waging an unnecessary war that inspired more terrorists, and the success terrorists had in exploiting Bush’s international unpopularity, the Bush/Cheney record on counter-terrorism was awesome.–

They not only did not “keep you safe”, they continued to terrorize you with false terror alerts and reports of “terror plots” that were set-ups of hapless fools who couldn’t find the right end of a match, let alone start a fire. You still have yet to tell us what truth Cheney is speaking. I think you know the reason why, but don’t have the guts to admit it.

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive
 

getplaning. Here’s the deal with your “quote”. Most congressional democrats, both Clintons, PM Blair, President Putin…you get the point…all agreed and gave speeches (which are on the record) saying Saddam Hussein had WMDs and that he needed to be dealt with. Iraq was supported by both parties in congress and the American people. So, please stop with your half truth (I have no faith in your ability to do so…) it doesn’t tell the whole story.

Also, I believe Cheney and already stated the Bush administration has kept us safe, so that is proof enough for me. We haven’t been attacked…It is your job to prove he is wrong, but you wont’ be able to…Just like this adminstration isn’t able to prove anything and story keeps dying…They and you have nothing…nothing at all!

Just remember, over 3000 American “civilians” died in a few hours by being attacked on 9/11. That has never happened in our country before. It hasn’t happened again because of the policies of the Bush administration.

If you don’t want to see the truth, then that’s fine. But you can only respond with half truths…No problem, you left wingers are all alike…

Posted by TC | Report as abusive
 

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