Comments on: Kennedy successor joins Senate, takes up health reform battle http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/09/25/kennedy-successor-joins-senate-takes-up-health-reform-battle/ Tracking U.S. politics Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:39:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: TC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/09/25/kennedy-successor-joins-senate-takes-up-health-reform-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-399722 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:29:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=20607#comment-399722 getplaning. Really. You have no idea what you are talking about. Nice try. I know you will keep trying. I know all the headlines from the from ABC and Wall Street Journal. Also, I know you hold tight to the “generalizations” the present.

It was by far the largest march in DC, ever. Up to 2,000,000 people. But even if it was a mere 750,000 then that is quite contrary to those news media outlets that insisted on a few people would show up.

It doesn’t matter what you “think”, the truth is the people of this nation are PO’d at what is going on and time will prove me right. Likely at the next elections. The first start in Nov 2009 for some governors races.

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By: getplaning http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/09/25/kennedy-successor-joins-senate-takes-up-health-reform-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-399685 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:49:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=20607#comment-399685 They never said that, TC. You live in a fantasy world, or you are just willing to lie about anything. The DC Fire Dept calls it at 60,000 to 75,000, tops. Fox News reported “thousands” of protesters. ABC News reported “tens of thousands.” The Wall Street Journal reported “Thousands of conservative activists.”

I guess we now know where you get your news, TC.

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By: TC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/09/25/kennedy-successor-joins-senate-takes-up-health-reform-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-399671 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:00:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=20607#comment-399671 getplaning. You are too funny. You make up a lie because you can’t get over the truth. The DC police who witness and work the marches said it was the largest demonstration ever in the capital mall. Nice try.

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By: getplaning http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/09/25/kennedy-successor-joins-senate-takes-up-health-reform-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-399647 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:13:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=20607#comment-399647 The march in DC on 9/12 was not the largest ever in our nations capital, and those who are repeating this lie know it. No one took notice, even when the media promoted and lied about it, going as far as publishing a five year old photograph of the National Mall taken during a completely different event to give the impression that it was well atended. It wasn’t even half the size of the march on October 27,2002, in protest of Bush’s war on Iraq, and those people didn’t have Freedomworks providing free transportation to Washington for the protestors.

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By: TC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/09/25/kennedy-successor-joins-senate-takes-up-health-reform-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-399582 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:17:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=20607#comment-399582 Health Care is going to affect 1/6th of the economy and will be required by every single American and will never expire. It should not be passed with a simple majority vote of 51. BTW, the senate knows it too and know the backlash that will occur.

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By: Susan Cass http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/09/25/kennedy-successor-joins-senate-takes-up-health-reform-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-399580 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:34:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=20607#comment-399580 I find it interesting that people are screaming that “reconciliation” is an abuse of power for this administration. Lets go back to the Bush administration:

– The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01]
– The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03]
– Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06]
– The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05]

All of the above were passed using the same reconciliation. Want to talk about abuse of power now? Shall we talk about other abuses?

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By: TC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/09/25/kennedy-successor-joins-senate-takes-up-health-reform-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-399567 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:25:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=20607#comment-399567 Even though this is a travesty that the MA legislature can change the rules because a sitting governor is a republican just to change the rules back when a democrat is running the state, the 60 vote majority in the US Senate is not a reality when it comes to health care (or any other vote…but I am sticking with health care for the moment…).

There are two independents in the senate. Senator Leiberman already said he is not in agreement that the health care debate should happen now with the economy in its current condition, so he may vote “no”. Senator Byrd is sick and usually absent from votes, so that leaves the majority at around 57. There are several “blue dog” democrats who are clearly against the health care plan. Let’s say it is about 50 votes for and 50 against at this juncture. Clearly it isn’t enough to stop debate.

I know there is the threat of “reconciliation”, but I have my doubts the senate will actually use that measure. It will be a death knell for them to use it. It is clearly an abuse of power if they do and they will pay for it dearly in the next election. Health care will fundamentally change our economy (for the worse…as well as horrible care…) and using reconciliation when the clear majority of Americans are against any plan mucking through congress will enrage the people.

The march in DC on 9/12 was the largest ever in our nations capital. The politicians took notice, even if the media ignored and lied about it.

So, the US congress and the president better watch their step before “forcing” their agenda on all of us…

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By: R. Nicholas http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/09/25/kennedy-successor-joins-senate-takes-up-health-reform-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-399524 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:21:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=20607#comment-399524 What a joke. Democrats change the rules when they think they’ll lose a seat, then change them back when they need one.

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