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New Jersey goes Republican too, bad night for Democrats

November 4, 2009

USA-HEALTHCARE/LUNCHESNo matter how they slice and dice it, Democrat losses in the New Jersey and Virginia governor races are bad news for the party of President Barack Obama as he tries to move an ambitious agenda forward.

Congressional Democrats are already jittery about mid-term elections in 2010 when the party of a first-term president usually loses seats. And Tuesday’s Republican wins will only scare them more.

Even before the New Jersey race was called for Republican Chris Christie over incumbent Governor Jon Corzine, Democrats were postulating that this would be the race to watch rather than the Republican win in Virginia where Bob McDonnell beat Democrat Creigh Deeds.

“If the Democrats have a bad night…”  James Carville, Democratic pundit, said on CNN after the Virginia race was called but before the New Jersey results were out.

“Let’s assume that the Democrats lose New Jersey, it could have an effect that people in Congress say ‘you know I’m not going to go along with some of Obama’s stuff, I’m really scared, we’ve gotta be careful, we’re going into 2010.’ That could be a reaction to that, maybe even an overreaction, which could be a danger,” Carville said. “That’s something that could have some implications.”

OBAMA/The White House has been downplaying these elections which come one year after Obama won the presidency. Spokesman Robert Gibbs was telling reporters that Obama was not watching the returns. (Fairly sure he’ll get the word somehow).

What it all means will be debated for days, weeks and months as the 2010 mid-term elections come closer.

What do you think? Is this a sign of things to come?

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Perhaps the people of New Jersey, who are heavily taxed, were responding to current heavy taxes from their state plus future heavy government taxes.

Posted by Jorge | Report as abusive
 

Since Obama campaigned for both candidates, he obviously cared about the races

Posted by jerry | Report as abusive
 

I think this shows that the AMERICANS are getting tired of these socialist ways that are trying to be shoved down our throats….
I love this country

Posted by gian | Report as abusive
 

Once again the liberal pundits got it wrong in suggesting,the republican party was gone for ever, as was expounded buy several of our progressive sages,and not only limited to the predictable getplaning.It is the same story that we see played out in these posting almost every day, the liberals have this unbelievable idea that everybody is stupid compared to them,if you want evidence look at the most recent posting.It is that silly, they are even trying to suggest what the conservatives need to do be able to complete against them.It is similar to the incessant unwanted advice we get from the limousine hollywood liberals that believe people will be amazed by their political dexterity.The reality is always the same,just give the democrats enough rope and they will hang themselves,they are so predictable they seem to have this fatal flaw,it must be their vanity but yes they do it every time.

Posted by brian lee | Report as abusive
 

Congratulations to Obama on the 48 Saves tonight! You negative nellies really need to stop getting all wee-wee’d up – before silly season goes from spring, summer, fall… straight into winter.
Any real news organization will tell you – those voters from NJ and VA just worked themselves up into a racist frenzy. Oops, gotta run – the game is back on. Hey, nice pass on the healthcare deadline – ooohhh… rejected! You know that hurt :)

Posted by Jake Carroll | Report as abusive
 

It’s over. The extremely foolish, out of touch with reality, America hating Marxist Democrats have already destroyed themselves and their party for many years to come! Obama will soon be forced to resign, by law, he is NOT a “natural born Citizen”. Read, understand, and comprehend the applicable laws before you attempt to say I’m wrong. Obama’s father was a British/Kenyan subject, he was NEVER a United States Citizen, therefore, no matter where Obama II was born, he absolutely CANNOT qualify as a “natural born Citizen” and he CANNOT legally hold the office of president.

Posted by Lawyer | Report as abusive
 

Mr. Obama: Record profits on Wall Street + record unemployment on Main Street = Massive defeat. You decided, Mr. Obama, to highjack the progressive movement in the US to the coat tails of Goldman & Morgan: As a result your party will be washed away under a tide of anger, and you yourself relegated to a footnote in history come 2012 (first black president). Congratulations for having turned the tide into a flood by opening the gates for massive tax-payer funded profit on Wall Street: The 15% unemployment (conservatively), record deficists, and worthless dollar that will inaugurate the Republican majority in 2010 and the 20% unemployment and destruction of the dollar that will inaugurate the Republican clean sweep in 2012 will come as a direct result of your only success so far: That of making Goldman and Morgan (your two biggest financial backers through the primaries) the biggest banks in the world.

Mission successful Mr. President. But don’t expect any thanks from the electorate; they cannot wait to send you the message in every and all elections from here until they boot you out of office come 2012. And with that, Mr. President, you will not only have destroyed your own party, but the progressive movement along with it. Congratulations for having defeated the very people you pretended to stand for.

Posted by Alex | Report as abusive
 

This was as resounding and crushing win in Virginia (by the gov, lt gov and attorney general) and a strong win by the new governor in NJ. Two states that have trended democrat in over a decade.

I know the “let’s look at ALL the polls” crowd was just showed that the crowd in power is not invincible. Rasmussen was spot on…again!

The 9/12ers march on Washington was the largest ever assembled and the power of the people showed up at the first poll since the crowd in power was elected just one year ago. First they were heard by Washington, now the nation got the first sting from the majority of people who won’t stand for the agenda being forced down our throats.

So, tell me all about the death of the conservatives in this country and how the leftist liberals will rule for generations. I really don’t care. Everything I have said has come true….And this is only the beginning…

Posted by TC | Report as abusive
 

Dear Barack,
Please continue to campaign for Democratic candidates in future elections. The Republicans welcome all your help. Thank you.

Posted by Thank You | Report as abusive
 

It’s strange that the White House said today that the election losses were not about the president, but yet he spent all weekend campainging for the loser in NJ, at taxpayer expense I might add. Wait until the elections next year and then we’ll see what the community organizer has to say. He is turning out to be the worst president in American history; someone has to hold the title.

Posted by Frank | Report as abusive
 

Between claims that Barack Obama trained ACORN and the 9-12 March being the largest ever assembled, I don’t know how our two conservative friends, TC and brian lee, could be less credible.

Before the right starts high-fiving itself and counting the days until Obama resigns, lets look at the broader picture. Democrats won two congressional races, Republicans won two gubernatorial races. There’s no evidence at all that yesterday’s races “send a signal to Washington,” one way or another.

Going into yesterday, it had been a good year for Democrats in special elections, winning three races — New York’s 20th, Illinois’s 5th, and California’s 32nd. Yesterday, Democrats made it five for five.

California’s 10th, Lt. Gov. John Garamendi (D), running a progressive campaign, defeated Republican David Harmer by double digits, 53% to 42.7%.

In New York’s 23rd, in the race that captured extensive national attention, Democrat Bill Owens scored a surprising win, beating Conservative Teabager Party nominee Doug Hoffman, 49.3% to 45.2%.

In New York’s 23rd, the far right had a plan. Activists and their allies would drive the Republican out of the race and rally behind the far right-wing candidate. They would then take this model on the road, making NY-23 a model for competitive contests elsewhere. Of course, the strategy looks less impressive when the Democrat wins…

I suspect Democrats like this plan.

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive
 

US political history lesson in my lifetime at 24 years old:

Republicans screwed up, we voted in Democrats

Democrats screwed up, we voted in Republicans

Republicans screwed up, we voted in Democrats

Democrats are screwing up, we’re voting for Republicans

Makes you wonder how we can still walk with how many times we’ve shot ourselves in the feet and not learned our lesson.

Posted by Michael Ham | Report as abusive
 

Sure thing getplaning. You are wrong again and it really doesn’t matter what you say. Your liberal left diatribes are certainly what the minority of Americans believe.

You can spin it any way you want. Obama can spin it any way he wants….He campaigned hard in Virginia and NJ and his guys were handed resounding and embarassing losses.

There was so much drama in NY that it isn’t a surprise in the result. But here is the kicker to emphasis how much getplaning isn’t reporting facts to back up his false assertions. There have been 17 democrats elected to the NY-23 congressional district “SINCE” the Civil War.

That alone is enough to discredit anything getplaning has to say. He doesn’t deal in facts. He certainly miscalculated the mood of the electorate and the “death” of the republican party.

This is a huge loss of the leftist agenda of the current bunch in power. They got the message, even if getplaning hasn’t.

Posted by TC | Report as abusive
 

Speaking of fact, TC, how many people did you claim showed up in Washington for the 9-12 March again?

The only thing the New Jersey and Virginia governor races prove is that when Democratic candidates move away from core Democratic principles, the Democratic voters will not even come out to vote. The losses were harsh and embarrassing, it’s true. But in other races where Democratic candidates took very progressive positions, they won equally lopsided victories. The lesson learned is, Americans are moving away from the center. But given the choice between a far right candidate and a far left candidate, the far left candidate wins. That is going to be a painful lesson for the Teabagger Party.

As for being a “huge loss of the leftist agenda of the current bunch in power”, you are again having trouble with your math skills, TC. Neither McDonnell nor Christie will have votes on health care reform in Congress. But the Democratic candidates who won their races will. By winning both of those congressional elections, Democrats have not only managed to expand their House majority, they’ve also moved the caucus further to the left.

Bill Owens is a moderate, but he’s more liberal than the Republican he’s replacing, John McHugh, and he’s endorsed a progressive approach to health care reform. Likewise, Garamendi is more liberal than Tauscher was, and he, too, favors a progressive approach to health care reform. In this environment, every vote counts, and Democrats just picked up two more that are going to prove helpful.

How that translates into “a huge loss of the leftist agenda” is hard to understand. For rational people, that is.

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive
 

Re: “Obama’s father was a British/Kenyan subject, he was NEVER a United States Citizen, therefore, no matter where Obama II was born, he absolutely CANNOT qualify as a “natural born Citizen” and he CANNOT legally hold the office of president.”

Sure sure.

Obama is a Natural Born citizen because the original meaning of Natural Born means born in the country, and he was. That is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:

“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)

Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)

Posted by smrstrauss | Report as abusive
 

Election Results. Nov.3,2009

November 6, 2009 by politicalsnapshots.wordpress.com

Election Results. Nov.3, 2009

The election results of Nov. 3, 2009 in Virginia, New Jersey and New York, will not give us a conclusive answer as to the resurgence of the Republican Party, nor the coming demise of the Democratic Party. At the same time, not paying attention to certain clues will be politically futile.

Few reasons for Democratic Party loss.

* Low voter turn out in historically Democratic strongholds.
* High unemployment, (in spite of 10,000 points at the Dow and so-called economic growth ballyhoo.)
* The disappointment of the progressive forces that helped put Obama in the White House. (Especially young white voters). Disparity between campaign rhetoric and reality.
* The uncertain, dim future of the U.S. economy.
* The unpopularity of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and,
* The Health Care Reform drama. (“not bound by any time lines” Sen. Reid)

For the time being, the Democrats might take third party candidates, as in (New York 23rd District) as their friends who might weaken the Republican Party. But, third party candidates are a double edged sword. In the future, progressive local candidates could arise challenging the status quo within the Democratic Party.

In other words, it will not be hard to envision for Conservatives and Progressives running their own candidates. After all, the rise of independents is based in the awareness that the two major political parties in the U.S. are not in step with the needs of the majority of the people. It is also an acknowledgment that the two party monopoly of politics is not conducive for democracy.

Finally, as my dear friend Ashley St.Claire says, “ may be, just may be, the so-called “ Blue Dogs”, ( I don’t know about the color but, the second part, they might be, if they call themselves one) might have a better fit in the Republican Party.”

Professor Mekonen Haddis

Posted by Ashley St.Claire | Report as abusive
 

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