The First Draft: Independents Day

November 4, 2009

Day-after chatter focused on how independent voters were pivotal in helping drive Republicans to victory in the New Jersey and Virginia governor races.

“The independent voter today is the keystone,” a very happy chairman of the Republican National Committee, Michael Steele, said on CNN.

“And if you don’t have a message for them, if you don’t have something to say, they’ll let you know by going with the other team or staying out of it altogether. Last night they came home to the GOP,” he said. After repeated TV appearances since last night’s results, Steele is holding a press conference at 10 a.m.

USA/Tim Kaine, the outgoing governor of Virginia and chairman of the Democratic National Committee, made the TV rounds on behalf of his party — his main message was that Creigh Deeds, the Democrat who lost  the race to replace him in the Virginia statehouse, had been an “underdog” all along.

Kaine also focused on (surprise, surprise) the Democrat win for a House of Representatives seat in New York over the Conservative Party candidate that Sarah Palin had endorsed.

Palin had something to say about that on her Facebook page in a note titled “A Victory for Common Sense and Fiscal Sanity.”

“I commend Doug Hoffman and all the other under-dog candidates who have the courage to put themselves out there and run against the odds,” the former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate wrote.

(Notice both Kaine and Palin describe their losing candidates as underdogs).

Palin, whose book “Going Rogue” is due out mid-month, ended her note by saying: “The cause goes on.”

President Barack Obama is off to Wisconsin today, a year after he won the presidential election. We’ll be on the lookout for any comment on this week’s election outcome.

What impact do you think the Republican wins in New Jersey and Virginia will have going forward?

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Dear Barack, Please continue to campaign for Democratic candidates in future elections. The Republicans welcome all your help. Thank you.

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Dear Dick Armey, Sarah Palin, and Teabaggers. Please continue to campaign for conservative candidates in future elections. The Republicans just lost a Congressional seat they had held since the Civil War with your help. The Permanent Democratic Majority will not be possible without your help. Thank you.

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What’s with the Underdog photo? Did someone at Reuters type in the wrong filename?

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“no thank you”, are we again hearing a liberal trying to tell us how we must act to give us a chance against the democrats?Sorry but don,t want to follow your directions thank you,and we don,t value your advice.Why do you guys do this is it because would like to help us or have you got a complex because we have different views.

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BTW…no, thank you!…There have been 17 democrats who served in the NY 23 congressional district “SINCE” the Civil War.

Unbelievable what the left will say to look impressive…Well, the election yesterday showed how unimpressed America is with the current bunch in control…

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So to recap: Hoffman receives endorsements by Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, Michele Bachmann, and Dick Armey. Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh give him tons of free airtime. The Club for Growth pours a million dollars into his coffers. The Teabaggers and RedState Army are mobilized.

And despite all of that, Hoffman still loses – in a conservative district that Democrats haven’t won in over a century.

Victory is yours, conservatives! LOL!

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Again, 17 democrats have been elected and served in NY 23 congressional district “SINCE” the Civil War. That last being in the 1990’s.

Virginia and NJ are the true measures of the mood of this country with millions of votes cast compared with ten thousand in a remote outpost in NY…The rest is not relevant.

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Here’s what’s relevant. Neither Governor McDonnell nor Governor Christie will have votes on health care reform or anything else in Congress. But the Democratic candidates who won their races will. By winning both of those congressional elections, Democrats have both expanded their House majority and moved the majority further to the left. 50 Republican governors would not make a bit of difference.

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On the contrary, because the landslide wins in Virginia and NJ and the close finish in NY 23 (after the conservative candidate was down 15 points only a few weeks before the election), the message was made not to “tread on us”.

As this is being written the house is having trouble getting the votes for its health care fiasco. The blue dog democrats will not vote for it, so it all comes down to the liberals in congress and even then they don’t have the votes. In addtion, the administration, from the president on down, have called every democrat congressman and even after that, they don’t have the votes.

The voters made their voices heard loud and clear. If the democrats mess with us, we will mess with them. Just look at Tuesdays election…it scared the democrats bad…

Everything I have said has come and is coming true….

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You are funny, TC. NOTHING you have been repeating on thread after thread is coming true. The creepy conservative candidate Doug Hoffman, lost to Democrat Bill Owens in a district where Hoffman oddly did not live and knew nothing about. It was a fine way of expressing the universal sentiment, “Go away, Sarah Palin, and take Dick Armey with you.”

And, in a rebuke to the “lower-tax-less-government-look-at-my-si gn” crowd, voters in Maine and Washington said “No” to the so-called Taxpayers’ Bill of Rights, which would have created spending limits and made every new tax or tax increase put to a vote of the people of the states, thus making representative democracy worthless. In Maine, voters said, “Hell, no” to directly repealing an excise tax on vehicles. I guess those people actually trust government and want it to function.

In New Jersey, where Corrupt Republican Chris Christie won with 49% of the vote, 57% of voters in exit polls say they approve of the job Barack Obama is doing. In Virginia, where Republican Bob McDonnell won with 59% of the vote, Obama has a 52% approval rating. That means that, at the very least, a good number of independent voters who voted for a Republican approve of President Obama. Unless you think thousands of people can support right-wing candidates AND wild-eyed liberals, these voters think of Obama as what he actually is– a moderate Democrat. And if so-called “moderates” won the day over all, then the President is seen as one of them.

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Whatever getplaning. In NY 23 Hoffman was down 15 points (or more) 2 weeks before the election. Hell, he wasn’t even a candidate much more then 3 weeks before the election. But he “only” lost by 3 or 4 points. Hmmm…guess it wasn’t such a slaughter afterall. Again, my point stands, but you refuse to see the forest for the trees. You are one dimensional and can’t see the bigger picture.

As for the rest, you really know how to twist the facts. That’s fine, everything I said was going to happen in this election happened….it was a slaughter for the democrats and it will continue in 2010 when they are all up for re election.

Obama has a 48 percent approval. Even if he has an approval over 50 percent, the fact of the matter is George Bush had a higher approval rating from jul 2000 on. Obama is a disaster and the American people gave their first shot last Tuesday.

The bunch in power heard and felt the American voter and they are running scared regardless of how much they (and you) ignore it.

It is fun watching you flounder with half truths…But I don’t expect any different from you who lives in the far left fringes of society…

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Your world must have a purple sky, TC. In NY-23, Doug Hoffman entered the race three weeks before election day, as you said, and cost the Republicans another congressional seat. You seem to think this was some kind of victory.
Obama has a 48% approval rating on one poll only. Every other poll in the nation scores him at 50% or better. So your bleating about how UNpopular President Obama is sounds rather childish. He won. Get over it.
George Bush may have enjoyed periods in his term with a higher approval rating, no doubt with the help of a complicit media, but he finished with the lowest of any president in modern history. Those are the facts, and they are not disputed.
And speakng of half truths, HOW many people did you say attended that 9-12 march in Washington? You seem to be avoiding this question.

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Hoffman did not cost the liberal republican any seat. She was going to lose because she accepted an endorsement from the Obama supported ACORN. She didn’t stand a chance of winning anything because the people of that district didn’t want a liberal. Hoffman ran as a conservative and went all the way from 15 or more points down three weeks before the election to almost winning the election. He barely lost and that says volumes about the anger people have in this country. Your liberal friends in office are well aware of the danger they face to keep their jobs in 2010.

As a matter of fact Owens the democrat who squeaked by with a win, said he would not support the publica option in the health care, but then the day after the election said he supported the public option. Hmmm…guess that win would have turned into a loss had he been honest rather than a typical left win liar.

lol….Obama won, but he is not endeared by anyone. He is protected by the media. Bush had a higher approval rating in spite of constant media criticism. Obama would have lower than 48 percent approval if the media criticized him like they did Bush. This time you just plain lied about Bush having media love. He did not and that is not open to debate because it is a fact. We won’t get to a second term with Obama so we will never know just how low his disapproval rating will get. However, Obama, like Carter, be able to talk about their one term presidencies.

You seem to know everything I have said about the 9/12 march. Is that the best you have?

You keep losing ground. Everything I have said has come true…

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What DID you say about the 9-12 march? Surely you remember.

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Oh, here, I will do it for you, TC. You don’t have the guts to admit you keep getting nailed telling “half truths” yourself, week after week.

From your claims of “The 9/12ers march on Washington was the largest ever assembled” to “the majority of Americans don’t want a public option” you post a great deal of half truths and whole lies.

You live in a huge glass house, TC but that doesn’t stop you from throwing a lot of stones. That’s conservatism right out of the textbook.

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getplaning. Yes, thank you for remembering the truth. You believe tens of thousands marched on Washington. That isn’t even a half truth, it is a lie.

I stand by the facts and the facts are it was the largest march ever assembled in Washington.

As for the public option (hmmm…that wasn’t in the original question you keep asking to bait me…). It is a fact that the American people don’t want any health care mess mucking through congress. That’s what I said and that is a fact…100 percent.

I even saw a poll last night (sorry, I didn’t catch who did the poll…I am looking in to it) that said only 20 percent of Americans want the senate to vote yes to implement government run health care. If true, that is a horrendous drop in approval for this monstrosity.

I am not going to predict the future, but I am cautiously optimistic that the senate bill will die because they don’t have the votes. Right now I hear they are down in the low 40’s for the number of votes supporting their mess.

The American people are being heard and feared….

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LOL. I guess you are the perfect example of what happens when people educate themselves exclusively by watching cable television, TC. Fox News used video clips of an event held ten years ago and told their viewers they were looking at video from the 9-12 Rally.
This week, we learned that Fox used video from the 9-12 Rally and told their viewers that they were looking at video from the most recent Michelle Bachmann low-turnout event on the Capitol steps. Either you are dumb enough to believe Fox propaganda, or you are cynical enough to promote their lies even when you know the truth.
Either way,the joke is on you. LOL.

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive

Interesting how you will interject your favorite news channel FOX New and work hard to discredit what they have to report.

Well, you have made your accusation, but that is not where I got my information. I did my own DD (due diligence for you who are intellectually challenged) research and I am indeed correct in all I have said. So your character assassinations just prove one thing, you know I am correct and have no valid information of your own to contribute.

You can try to discredit me all you want to. It won’t change the fact that you on the extreme left are losing the battle to wins the hearts and souls of America. Election day 2008 was the big lie by Obama and his compliciit media. Americans are on to him now and he knows it.

We can continue to battle, but you are not credible. You cherry pick the information I present and make a lame attempt at appearing the American people are not mad at what is going on. Well, election day 2009 says otherwise and your side is going to be very upset next year.

Have fun getplaning. I stand by everything I have said and everything I have said has either come true or is coming true.

So go ahead and play your game of destroy, because you have nothing else….

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LOL. Due diligence…Where, American Thinker? Malkin’s blog? It’s too bad this thread is not on the first page any more, I think people would get a laugh out of your “DD”. I know I am. Try posting a link to your source, as I often do.

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lol…right back at you. You give me great peace that you have nothing but name calling and vitriol.

Have fun with the last word, I proved my point. You are defending a losing battle.

Posted by TC | Report as abusive

So you won’t reveal the source of your “DD”?

Well, what a surprise.

Posted by getplaning | Report as abusive

Last time on this thread for me. I don’t like it when I give information but it isn’t published.

As for you wild claims. Interesting how you hold me to some standard, but don’t back up your wild (and false) on “old footage” of events. Well, you can go on your liberal blogs to find something to discredit the truth. Hmmm…you are out to destroy and discredit, but it is okay for you to leave out the links (of your leftist sources) to back up your lies.

That’s fine with me. I am certain you are a paid shill with the soul intention of seeking out anyone providing the truth and discrediting them with your lies. You spend way too much time on your personal vendetta to have it be otherwise.

That’s something else you have decided to ignore…you are paid for your diatribes against the truth. Your ilk does the same thing to Beck, Limbaugh, Palin and you know the others.

It is fun to see see the ship sinking for your extreme left employers.

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So when you say, “I don’t like it when I give information but it isn’t published”, are you saying you are just making things up?

Information is published, either on websites, in periodicals, or in televised media. If you can’t name the source of your data, you are either making it up, or you know your source is making it up. Either way, you are caught in another lie.

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