Comments on: Republican sees Democrats passing healthcare overhaul http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/ Tracking U.S. politics Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:39:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: JOHN BOY http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403917 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:39:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403917 wht part of texas is new zealand in anyway

]]>
By: Mufaso http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403915 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:45:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403915 NZ Kiwi, that is the best post on the condition of healthcare in this country I’ve ever read. I’m considering emigrating to your country, where the people and government have some sense. To hell with the Democrats and Republicans!

]]>
By: eli http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403913 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:27:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403913 If it was not for the tax payers and people who deposit their money in banks you will not have a business.. Since most of your loans and financing are supported by other hard working people like you.. Just think of a family of 4 all working and paying taxes.. With decent salaries they pay their share of taxes too…

]]>
By: blogLogic http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403908 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:02:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403908 ANYONE who is NOT an AMERICAN citizen—BUTT OUT! You seem to need your government to tell you how to think-we do NOT. We think for ourselves and want it that way. Its our life, our taxes, our future and its NONE of your concern. We don’t care what you think, nor do we feel obligated to explain ourselves to you.You have no power in your own land, so you rant on and on about how flawed we are -mind your own business it is none of YOUR concern. WE KNOW our country and WE KNOW what we want as a nation. Oh yea..take Obummer with you-he is the only thing flawed in the UNITED STATES.

]]>
By: James http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403906 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:14:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403906 Don’t people realize that it is the government regulations that make health care so expensive in the first place? When a pharmaceutical company has to pay millions of dollars to get their new product through FDA approval of course they are going to charge $100 per pill to try to just break even, much less make a profit. Since the only reason for anyone to do the research in the first place is that they want to make money on it they can’t be expected to charge less than it costs them to get the product to the market. (I know I wouldn’t volunteer to work at my job without receiving a paycheck.) The government makes it so expensive to make medical products available only the big companies can do so. So how, exactly, will having more government regulations in the industry make it cheaper for anyone?

]]>
By: NZ Kiwi http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403905 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:13:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403905 This whole debate is just utterly confusing from the point of view of someone from outside America.The current system in the USA is plain ridiculous, the most unusual way of providing healthcare I’ve ever come across around the world – lumbering and inefficient, and blantantly corrupt.Here in New Zealand, if I need almost any kind of medical care it will be provided free. If I want to get a slightly more comprehensive coverage through private providers, I may do that as well (and I have), but this is really only paying for convenience. The point is that I will always be covered, at no direct expense, whenever I need it, by a taxpayer funded system. The UK, France, Australia all have similar systems, all funded by the Government – and they all work perfectly, suprising as it may seem to critics of US healthcare reforms.Why would America not want the same coverage? Personally I cannot see why, and some of the arguements against change seem a little flawed:Sarah Palin’s death-pannel claim. Not at all how things work. Everyone is covered, its as simple as that. The sad irony in this point is that this is in fact the current status quo in the US – the big insurance giants regularly decide to reject medical insurance claims on the smallest of technicalities.Taxes. A lot of arguements seem worried that the ordinary taxpayer is going to be hit with the burden of any change. This may well be true, but the end result must surely be a better option than the current situation. As an example, a contrast between NZ and the US again. Over here, we have free healthcare. The top tax bracket is 38%, which is very reasonable. We also get free schooling and hugely subsidised Universities – but thats another discussion. The US top tax rate seems to be 35%. Slightly lower, but then given the average cost of insuring a family in 2008 was over US$12,000 I think I’d rather go for the 38% tax.Which leads to the next point – public healthcare means that everyone is paying for everyone else’s medical care. Republicans seem to be using this as a negative, but that just doesn’t make any sense. How is that a ba thing? Sure, it means that you’re helpig pay for other people, but when you need it yourself – and you will need healthcare, that is an inescapable fact – it also means that everyone else is paying for you. It means everyone is covered, all the time, regardless of how much money they have. Being anti-universal healthcare makes the republicans seem simpleton and cruel; no, thats just not strong enough. Try utterly devoid of compassion, cold and inhumane.I realise this has been a bit of a rant, but thats what looking at the American situation does to people, when viewed from the point of view of an outsider – confounds to the extent of being somewhat lost for words. I realise right-wing American people may often imagine the rest of the world as being backward to the point of being unable to function, and generally in awe to the great US of A, but look outside your boarders for once. Do some reaseach. Travel. Go home and look again. America needs change.

]]>
By: Benny Acosta http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403881 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:18:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403881 I agree with MCS,We go to war under the justification of “freedom” and think nothing of the cost in blood and money.But when it comes to making sure we ALL have access to health care all of a sudden no body wants to contribute.If this is how e value our own lives then we deserve to suffer and have no right to complain. And we certainly don’t deserve to be world leaders.

]]>
By: James http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403875 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:19:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403875 Tim, this is for all those that want to know the truth.I am a citizen of Arkansas visiting Russia to find out how they have private health care at 10% our cost so here it is. MRI $150 (Brand new U.S. made GE machine!)ECG, $7.50Chest X Ray $10Blood test for cholesterol/diabetes/ liver function/ kidney function ECT $15.The research institute we are going to is private and not part of the government in any way.The people here who want to go to private or government med school go all the way including a PhD in their speciality for no charge as long as they keep a solid 3.5 grade point or higher.They can then go for internship in a private or government hospital as required and be paid a salary by the Russian government then go to private practice. Charges are controlled and Gouging is not allowed. Gouging for drugs is also monitored. Very few people here have or need health insurance and there is no delay for care.You can have bypass surgery for less than $10,000 including airfare and hotel for after surgery followup check. Stateside my neighbor is now paying over $200,000 for the bypass he had done in Washington state.My wife had some dental work done and the price was less than 10% what it would have cost in the states. This was done in a private dental office.My conclusion is we are being misslead on many things about this health insurance bailout.This has been an interesting and informative trip. Most of Europe has this same setup and it seems to work.I got tired of hearing all the bad things about the health care in other countries and decided to see for myself. What an eye opener.There are more countries than Russia that have health care and pharmaceuticals just as good or better than the U.S.at a much lower cost.

]]>
By: Mufaso http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403864 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:49:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403864 MCS, you sound like a true collectivist. Why do you hate yourself so much? You admit that you work hard for very little money. Why? You are willing to pay for someone else’s healthcare. Why? Are others willing to pay for yours? Or are you the self-sacrificing type? Good god, you are even willing to pay for a debt that you personally had nothing to do with! Please get some counseling. Learn some self-respect. Read Ayn Rand’s The Virtue of Selfishness.

]]>
By: jason http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/13/republican-sees-democrats-passing-healthcare-overhaul/comment-page-1/#comment-403828 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:54:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=22280#comment-403828 D. Moore,I must say that I disagree with you totally. The insurance industry did not get us into this mess. Elected officials for decades have been legislating the insurance companies playing field at the state and federal level in favor of corporations. Corrupt politicians put us in this mess and we should draw the line with them now and NOT give them control over our healthcare decisions. It is insanely illegal anyways. I would advise you to study this a bit more and get to know the constitution.

]]>