Obama seeks to cast healthcare vote as test of courage

March 11, 2010

Do they have what it takes?

In a new twist, President Barack Obama is trying to turn the tough politics involved in the healthcare reform push into an argument for passing his top domestic priority. OBAMA/

Obama is telling fellow Democrats that supporting legislation to overhaul the $2.5 trillion healthcare system, despite its lack of popularity, would be a mark of courage.

At a pair of fundraisers in St. Louis for U.S. Senator Claire McCaskill, Obama said voters sent their politicians to Washington to make hard choices and that passing healthcare was the right thing to do.

He held himself up as an example, saying that he made difficult decisions in his first year, including pushing through a $787 billion stimulus package, bailing out the U.S. auto companies and deciding to move ahead on healthcare reform.

While Washington pundits suggest the drop in his poll numbers means “the sky is falling,” Obama said, “I’m looking around and I’m thinking I feel okay.”

He poked fun at the poll-obsessed Washington culture and expressed relief to be out of the nation’s capital, if only for a day.

“There are a lot of nice things in Washington. Don’t get me wrong. I love the monuments,” he said. “But it’s a town where most of the time people are worried more about politics than about what’s right. People are hooked to the daily polls like some kind of EKG.”

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He will do anything to force this on the American people who clearly have never wanted what he has to offer.

Everything he says sound so contrived. The majority of Americans see it what it is…lie after lie after lie…and it just won’t stop.

Stop already. No one wants your snake oil…

Posted by TyC | Report as abusive

Yes they do

Posted by Yellow105 | Report as abusive

In other words, fall on my sword and die for me.

Posted by LibertyLvr1 | Report as abusive

Boy, some of you guys are really kind of radical. I wonder if you have even kept up with the various proposals. I’d suggest you look at the current proposal. A lot of folks depict things incorrectly for their own gains in relation to these proposals. Much of what is said in the media is just plain wrong. It is like yelling fire in a crowded plaza. It is plain and simple fear mongering.

I encourage you to read the bills and proposals or at least read some of the good summaries. But don’t believe everything you read or see in the media. In many cases the popular media is all about someone else’s agenda. They have agendas that are most often not in your best interest.

I didn’t like the early proposals, but as I understand the current proposals, I like what I see. So, for me, to refer to one commenter here… give me snake oil.

Posted by Tom_MacKnight | Report as abusive


It is interesting, because you sound like the president who really says nothing, but just to trust him (ie the government), just as you did in your post.

Sorry, but it doesn’t matter what is in the bill. Even he said it “is just a starting point”. He is even saying the public option can be added later. Everything can be “fixed” when it is finally passed.

So, to say “read the bill” (even John Conyers criticized that because no one would understand it) is to just plain miss what is happening in this “radical” agenda to force a very bad progressive agenda on us.

A clear majority of Americans do not want this. Over 60 percent say, throw it out and start over.

You are part of the minority that thinks the government can both afford this monstrosity and that it will improve health care for Americans.

Posted by TyC | Report as abusive

When it recently came to voting courageously, turns out there are only 65 reps who have what it takes:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll098. xml

The rest can go to hell.

Posted by HBC | Report as abusive

A test of courage from a man that has never stood up to his own party? That is laughable.

This is not a test of courage. It is a test of ideological purity. Democrats will only pass this bill if they believe that unethical moves in the Congress, and moving against the American public’s will, is in the best interest of the nation.


Posted by neoavatara | Report as abusive

JEEZ! Karl Rove is actually OUT making money selling his book instead of in a crowded holding cell wearing chains, PROSECUTED for any number of serious felonies and seditious activity? WHO could POSSIBLY BE STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY WHAT Rove is dishing out? Let’s seeeeeeeee……

I know it’s a stretch… but for arguments sake lets say Americans can conveniently forget about the 5000+ dead, 30,000+ wounded US soldiers and only GOD knows how many Iraqis. Forget that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld took the good will of the world after 9/11 and turned it to HATE and mistrust.

How these chicken hawks sent our troops into battle WITHOUT PROPER ARMOR or any clear cut plan beyond George W. declaring “Mission Accomplished”. Never mind military strategists didn’t think it was a good idea to get rid of the ONE DICTATOR (Saddam Hussein) in the Middle East that had an IRON BOOT on the throat of fanatical Islam. Remember… the degenerates that caused 9/11?

The TRILLIONS of dollars wasted in Iraq or the 20 BILLION dollars missing or the 175,000 weapons misplaced or all the arms dealers and WAR profiteers that milked our national treasury. FORGET about all the Constitutional VIOLATIONS, domestic spying, bold lying, Justice Dept. bias, Walter Reed, Abu Ghraib, soldiers getting electrocuted in showers due to shoddy military contractor work…

YEAaaaaa… once again, imagine we live in a country where almost half the population is dumber than a tree full of monkeys. These citizen are so damn ignorant they allowed some of the worst criminals in history bend them over and #*~/ed them in the *** for 8 years. Even worse these numbskulls LIKED IT so much they want MORE!

MORE of the waste, fraud, abuse, bold lying, incompetence, scandal, fear mongering, corruption, off-shore tax evasion, media consolidation, arms dealing, reckless economics, war profiteering, Bush/Paulson corporate welfare, Constitutional violations and a Corporate Crime Wave of EPIC proportions.

IF THE READER CAN POSSIBLY FORGET ALL THAT… then the WORST thing the Bush/Cheney Administration DID was NOT raise taxes to pay for the WARS, tax cut for the rich and Medicare Part iDiot. You want to hear about Fiscal Irresponsibility GRANDE?

Instead, Bush/Cheney borrowed from COMMUNIST China and Saudi Arabia (at outrageous interest rates) AND put OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN under the thumb of MASSIVE FOREIGN DEBT!

If there’s ANYONE out there who can explain away Bush/Cheney Administration CRIMES please reply because I’m NOT GETTING IT! PLEASE tell me how any human being could possibly be so shameless, irresponsible or hypocritical to blame Obama/Biden and Democrats for the HUGE MESS this great nation is facing? It’s the MOST UN-AMERICAN THING I’VE EVER WITNESSED!


Posted by SPO1 | Report as abusive

The only people who don’t want HCR to pass are those who will see their profits reduced by it. These are the same people who are spending over a million dollars a day to defeat it. The tsunami of propaganda has worked on the TV watching set, but when the details of HCR are explained to those same people, their opinion of it rises to over 50%. That’s called a “majority”.

Posted by Yellow105 | Report as abusive

The majority of Americans don’t want any health care plan by this administration and this congress to pass.

It is astounding how much anyone can blame insurance companies for this failure when it’s the American people who have said no time and time again.

Posted by TyC | Report as abusive

Yes they do. It’s going to pass. It’s going to pass because the American people voted for it in the last two elections. Let the whining begin.

Posted by Yellow105 | Report as abusive

Explain how Americans voted for this health care fiasco the last two elections.

Over 60 percent of the American people say “start over”. They do not want this mess, never have.

The problem for the democrats are the democrats.

Posted by TyC | Report as abusive

While the Republicans were telling Americans to be afraid of socialism, and that Obama pals around with terrorists, Obama and the Democrats were telling them they were going to work to make everyone’s lives better. The results speak for themselves.

It’s going to pass, and you and Hannity’s army can’t stop it. Enjoy your desperation. I am.

Posted by Yellow105 | Report as abusive

And how exactly are they going to make anyone’s life better?

The results certainly do speak for itself. 10 percent unemployment, a debt which has increased 3 trillion dollars in just a year…and climbing, a very low approval rating 45 percent and falling, and the list goes on. They are failures.

As for this so called health care debacle, they are not honest about what they are doing and the American people know it. But you are right, this administration and this congress do not care what the majority wants. You may be right, they may push this thing through after buying off everyone behind closed doors.

But the price will be heavy. I am not sure the people will wait until Nov 2010 to show their displeasure.

It’s okay to be smug now, but it won’t last for the morally corrupt progressives who are trying to control every aspect of our lives.

Have fun while it lasts.

Posted by TyC | Report as abusive

10 percent unemployment, a debt which has increased 3 trillion dollars in just a year…and climbing, all the consequences of conservative policies. Conservatives still haven’t learned their lesson. At least Americans have, which is why conservatives poll even lower than the spineless Democrats on every issue.
You already got blown out of the water on a previous thread on the subject of moral superiority. Moral corruption and hypocrisy, and trying to control every aspect of other people’s lives is the exclusive domain of the conservative right. You are a textbook case yourself.

Posted by Yellow105 | Report as abusive

Actually, you are not correct. Regarding congress republicans poll higher than democrats by about 6 points. Go and look at Rasmussen. But I don’t expect you to accept the accuracy of that polling company.

It’s okay if you want to blame conservatives for the increase in government spending, but it is just a diversion to the truth.

Tell me what this administration has accomplished? We were promised if the stimulus was passed that unemployment would not rise above 8 percent. Well, it didn’t take long for that lie to surface. 10 percent or 18 percent. Depends on what numbers you choose to use, but it is well over 8 percent.

This president has wasted over a year on a horrible health care debacle and we are possibly going to be stuck with it. it won’t even be implemented for 4 years but our taxes will go up as a result.

But the other things this president has concentrated on have nothing to do with fixing the unemployment problem.

His futile attempt to get the Olympics for his hometown of Chicago was resoundingly defeated on the first ballot. Last place out of four cities.

He campaigned hard for his progressive friends in Virginia, NJ and MA, but his people lost badly, to of all people, republicans…

Cap and trade is hugely unpopular with the American people. It’s a good thing he is failing.

Guantanamo will not close and he knows it. Failure…but the American people are happy about keeping terrorists in Cuba.

It seems he is more concerned with pushing his progressive agenda on us than to work on getting people back to work. Even liberals are upset he hasn’t done more to decrease unemployment.

No, my argument was about in a prior thread was about right and wrong, not about a message. As I said, the family values message is the correct message. However, there are republicans and democrats who do not practice what they preach. And they all should be thrown out of office for lying to the American people.

Just remember this, there are several democrats who sexually hit on minors. There are a few democrats who paid prostitutes for sex. You can ignore them crimes if you want to, but the fact of the matter is, they committed crimes. Tell me how their crimes are less worse then anyone who preaches the correct message of family values? In your warped world, it is apparent that as long as they don’t talk about committing crimes, it is okay.

No, I was not blown out of the water. I am consistent in my argument that morally corrupt people wrong no matter what. The rest of it doesn’t matter. What’s right is right and what’s wrong is wrong.

I get it, too bad you and your ilk don’t.

Posted by TyC | Report as abusive

“Actually”, what better proof is there that Rasmussen is a Republican pollster?
Today’s Wall Street Journal Poll has Obama at 48% approval and Congressional Democrats 3 points higher than Republicans.

Posted by Yellow105 | Report as abusive

So what you are saying is the WSJ is a liberal rag.

Okay, whatever.

Interesting how Gallup even has Obama at a 46 percent approval today. Rasmussen 45 percent.

Congress is about 18 percent and republicans are rated about 6 points higher than democrats. The elections in Virginia, NJ and MA show why Rasmussen is the most accurate polling data available.

I am still waiting for you to provide something other than one liners which mainlyt say…you are wrong…neener neener neener. Please help us by providing some thoughtful discussion on a topic any topic…please.

Posted by TyC | Report as abusive

Believe me, all the revenue from so-called “health care” will go into general revenues. When the socialists, (Obama and the liberals, mostly Democrats) spend way too much on other social programs, they will say they need more money for health care.

It’s a scam; just like social security. There is no SS fund. There. Is. No. Money.

Posted by KingH | Report as abusive