Comments on: General Kayani steals the spotlight at Pakistani embassy party http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/ Tracking U.S. politics Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:39:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: pakis http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-409182 Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:44:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-409182 To All indies,

Let me clear you all fools specially “khuidude” (so called paid indian scholar) whose poisonous lecture is the same as we are listening from day 1 since the birth of pakistan. For God sake stop this bloody propaganda that “I am Muslim or I m Pakistani and believe that india is far superior than Pakistan……. and India is peace loving…. blah blah blah”; every one knows the bloody hindu mentality and condition of Muslims in India and how they are treated there. As far as democracy is concerened “Why the hell you dont give democratic right to Kashmir? (so called democracy)”, Now lets see your 7 times Army, In 1948 Pak Army defeated you and occupied major areas of Kashmir, when nehru had to run for help to UN and promised that he will give right of self decision to Kashmiris; then in 1965 when hindu “soormas” attaceked Pakistan they were beaten back by a far less equipped and far less in number Pak Army and Indian PM had to beg Ayub Khan to end the war; Yes in 1971 indian Army was able to defeat Pak Army but the only reason for it was the unstable internal conditions of bangladesh where people refused to support Pak Army and thats why Pak Army had to surrender in Bengal, had the bengalis been more supportive in 1971, Miss Gandhi must be the next to beg “War End”

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By: G-W http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-407420 Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:08:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-407420 @Mortal1, Khuidude,

Quit wasting your precious brain power trying to reach psychologically warped and disturbed bloggers like UmairPk.

Umair’s opinions shift on the drop of a coin, as soon as the Pak Army’s stances change on anything. Or let me rephrase, as soon as the USA bends the PA over the barrel and makes them fight the Taliban, then Umair jumps on the band wagon, “rah rah…PA…Men at their best, indeed”.

Pakistani’s most of them are still delusional, they think partition washed away thousands of years of identity and genetic kinship.

Let me remind you Umair, Pakistanis ARE Indians. Feel free to celebrate your fictitious identity, the one some of you Pakistanis have used so many times to hurt India.

Unfortunately, the politics of Islam have perverted the ways of the Indian muslims who are descendentss of those Indian muslims who migrated during partition.

I am sure that Paks will keep trying to hurt India, using one excuse or another, but mother India will always know how to handle the brats in Pakistan.

At the end of the day, Pakistanis are Indians, just 60 years behind.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-407414 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:10:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-407414 @ Umair: “-ok, i have high proficiency in English and can comprehend very nicely, besides I have a high speed DSL connection”

Don’t get offended buddy. I did not imply that you’re dumb or illiterate. You’re obviously quite proficient in english, well-read & the speed of your DSL is faster than that of light, So just relax.

@ “Being a Pakistani is enough for ME to be proud”

I have absolutely no doubt about that.

@ “if you guys show us you can be our friends we will go out of our way to be friends with you. Just remember there is a history behind us”

How can you expect any Indian to trust you when you keep sending over your ‘non-state actors’ to blow up or spray bullets over innocent & unarmed Indian women, children & men?
How can you be trusted when Indian leaders send friendly overtures towards your country & get back ‘operation gibraltar’ & ‘operation badr’ (kargil) in return?
How can friendship be offered to someone, who has nothing but hatred for you?
We can all move beyond the history, animosity & the wars but before that happens, you & your generals need to realize you will gain absolutely nothing from India by adopting violence & terrorism as means of intimidation. You can no longer mask your vengeance & hatred behind the facades of ‘kashmiri freedom struggle’ or ‘non-state actors’ because you’re fooling no one. In your blind ambition to bleed India, you guys have literally bled yourselves to death. For God’s sake, open your eyes & learn from your mistakes, give up your belligerence & act like a civilized nation. Once you do that, all disputes can be resolved peacefully & amicably and friendship can certainly follow.

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By: Seth http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-407412 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:21:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-407412 If only Pakistani themselves were not ruled by the same British, my previous comment re: someone’s proficiency in English would be immediately attributed to my heritage from 200 years of English dominion. Alas, freedom of speech (pride and vanity for some) rocks! But so does the culture of my motherland that assimilates everything that is good and useful without discriminating whether it came from her benefactors or oppressors.

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By: khuidude http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-407411 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:09:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-407411 @Mortal:
LOL @ your comments, but sarcasm is never appreciated by a pointless nation of fanatical bigots. Pride is a very dicey issue. Its like having a slow child, you can’t help but be proud of him/her, because its your child. If someone comes and points out to you that your kid is dumb or stupid or slow, you will react angrily and violently even though you know its the truth. Its kind of the same thing with national pride.

Umair does have a point, there are no reasons whatsoever to be a proud Pakistani, but that is for us who are fortunate not to be Pakistanis. But if you are a Pakistani and have no other option; irrespective of the fact that your country is down in the dumps, ideologically fanaticized, self-imploding machine of hate, hell bent on chaos and mindless destruction based on a warped perspective of religion; do tell me what would you do. The odds are, you will be proud of your filth because it is your filth and you have no other option but to be proud of it.

@Umair:
I’m really trying to make this leap out to your sensible side and every single step I seem to make forward, you seem to take 10 backwards. What do you mean by “we have nothing against India”. A simple google search shows who has what against whom. You go on to say “if you guys show us you can be our friends we will go out of our way to be friends with you”. Really man?? Do I even need to berate you on this completely nonsensical statement. History has been rehashed on this blog on a daily basis, facts have been splashed across your face and yet, this, this statement.

But let us consider India is evil just for your benefit and every war that has happened, is because we want to destroy Muslims and want to take over your land. All wars, were started by Hindus who only want to destroy the noble Muslim race who are peace loving, free-spirited souls in search of Allah and whom Allah has blessed with the strength of 5 Hindus each to hold back the stone worshiping barbarians. This is a synopsis of your entire warped education. All guided by a book of just laws into which fairy tales have been conveniently woven in and which somehow miraculously predicts the future once it has already happened.

Now tell me, what about America? All they have done is feed you every time you beg. Billions of dollars of charity have poured into your country with the promise of billions more to come. All was stolen by the people in power. Weapons were given to fight just good wars keeping yours and their own (I’m not saying they aren’t selfish) best interests in mind. What did you do, turn it against India and start pointless wars each of which you have miserably lost. So whom do you hate in the end? Wait. Wait. Let’s hear this. Its America, isn’t it? Your dear generals and glorious army are the saints who have kept the evil Hindus away. Are you even capable of friendship? Do you know what it means?

But you ended it nicely with “Just remember there is a history behind us, centuries old, then partition and wars”. Thats a line that is pulled out from one of these long sermons us peace-loving folk here seem to keep giving you time and over again. Quite clearly, it has fallen on deaf ears and has been thrown back in our face in a highly illogical act of condescension. For your sake please go through this article on Wikipedia – (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India-paki stan_conflict). I’m sure its not as authentic a source of information as what was fed to you in your madrassah, but by the rest of the world’s standards, we have pretty much come to accept it, since it has been put up there by users like you and me and can be modified by anyone provided they have sufficient proof.

In any case peace be with you my friend, even though i know I can never be your friend. Try and understand and see the light. There’s nothing wrong with being proud of your country. In fact I would despise if you weren’t. Just learn to accept the flaws and try to do something about it. Your blind hate will get you nowhere. Make Pakistan a country worth being proud of. People would actually respect you for it and this long tirade could be avoided.

(P.S. Forgive me for the ample amounts of sarcasm I have spewed. I’m sure you wont understand it. But I hope you do someday.)

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By: Seth http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-407410 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:06:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-407410 I know its kind of cheap but…

“what future hold for us”
should be
“what future holds for us”.

but then, when did arrogance listen to itself?

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By: Umairpk http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-407407 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:59:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-407407 Mortal1 wrote:
“You may not be aware but our friend Umair has a funny habit of posting links to articles without reading them just because he finds their titles intriguing.”

-ok, i have high proficiency in English and can comprehend very nicely, besides I have a high speed DSL connection. So surely whatever links i share here I do read them absolutely and understand them in depth. And I do read a lot of other material as well which is relevant and fully aware of the situation in Pakistan and what future hold for us.
One more thing, you do not need a reason to be a proud Pakistani. Being a Pakistani is enough for ME to be proud. I just can’t describe it to you, you need to be a Pakistani to understand that. And we have nothing against India, if you guys show us you can be our friends we will go out of our way to be friends with you. Just remember there is a history behind us, centuries old, then partition and wars.

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By: Mortal1 http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-407401 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:55:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-407401 Pir,

Needless to say, you must be a die-hard fan of one red hat wearing nut job! Anyways, you say that you are proud to be a Pakistani but can you elaborate on some of the accomplishments of your great country which make you so proud OR are you proud just because Pakistan continues to exist? If that’s the case then I must say that you have extremely low expectations. So, congratulations for existing & enjoy your time waiting for the Gazwai Hind. ROFL!

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By: pir http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-407392 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 06:44:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-407392 India is great coutry with over one billion population.It is the worlds biggest democracy.Its economy is growing at a rapid pace.It might become the worlds third biggest economy in a decade.
Pakistan is a country whose very creation is a controvercy.More than three fourth of the world powers and countries are against it.she is mired in a economical,security and social problems.Her leaders are more loyal to the west than to her people.Every party and leader hasn’t left a stone unturned in harming her in every way and yet Pakistan exists.The reason is that Allah has destined its people to take part in Gazwai Hind.Those who believe in Quran and Haadith cannot deny this fact.
I am proud to be a Pakistani Muslim and would still feel lucky to be Pakistani if all Indians becomes owners of houses made of gold.

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By: Seth http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/03/23/general-kayani-steals-the-spotlight-at-pakistani-embassy-party/comment-page-1/#comment-407372 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:35:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=25868#comment-407372 Hear what these air marshals, historians, and politicians from Pakistan have to say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yotJV7AyB sw&NR=1

Are these fellows on payroll of RAW too, particularly at this juncture of their lives?

The thing is that modern-day jingoistic people will also one day sober up and see the things the way they have been. Umair could be one of them, but then, will there be no feeling of shame and lowliness at that time?`

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