Comments on: Arizona immigration law author now targets “anchor babies” http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/ Tracking U.S. politics Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:39:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: young-gov http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408383 Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:51:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408383 This new Bill is unconstitutional, it is violating our civil rights, which are Amedments 13, 14, and 15. This Bill can not go any further since it is a racist act against all illegal immigrants and their children which are AMERICAN CITIZENS!!! I may be young, but i do undestand that OUR Constitutional rights that the government is trying to take away.
Even though the parents aren’t citizens, the children are. They were born in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I am only thirteen years old, I was born in this country that was meants for ALL immigrabts, illegal or not. My Father is an American citizen, but my mom isn’t.
My family fought for this country and still, the so-called government is trying to take away their rights!
I, a young teenager, is trying to point out that this country made for IMMIGRANTS is now feeding upon racism and cruelty against illegal aliens (which i have no idea why they call them aliens, why don’t you government called yourselves aleins since your family were all immigrants).
All the racists people in this country are all hyproctits and need to stop the act, it only works on an audience, not on me or my family!
Remember this, this new Bill will become a law and the only thing this Bill will do is that it will backfire on everybody who actually thinks that the Bill is a great idea.

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By: TyC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408271 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 01:47:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408271 Aten.

Fair enough…

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By: Aten http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408256 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:17:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408256 TyC,
I know, however, wanted to express my opinion even if it is like telling people in Afghanistan that throwing acid in the faces of girls that desire to go to school is not right. For them it is as much legitimate and justified and nobody should interfere. For a foreign observer it is something to comment on, nothing more.

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By: megcynic http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408237 Sun, 30 May 2010 14:45:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408237 The history of the 14th Amendment to U.S. Constitution makes it fairly clear that the amendment was passed as one of the Reconstruction Acts designed to facilitate the reconstruction of the union of the U.S. and the Northern and Southern states and to resolve some post civil war issues. From the amendment, and from historical writings of the period, it seems fairly obvious that the intent of the 14th Amendment was to give the rights of citizenship (like the ability to vote) and “personhood” to slave’s children if born in the U.S.

Prior to the Civil War slaves were kidnapped from foreign lands, sold into servitude and treated as chattel. These slaves and their children did not sneak into the U.S. voluntarily. They did not violate U.S. immigration laws to come to America and they were not motivated to come to America to take advantage of the 14th Amendment, because the 14th Amendment had not been passed when their arrived on U.S. soil and or when they were born.

Some foreign born commenters (above) mention that their families have been here for generations and that it is unfair (whatever that means) to now declaire them non-citizens. Those commenters should do a words search on The Immigration Reform And Control Act of 1986, and consider the impact that Act has on the issue of their citizenship and on the decison of immigrants to immigrate illegally in anticipation of subsequent U.S. amnesty acts.

Arizona State Senator Pearce’s proposed law will undoubtedly be challenged and ultimately end-up in the U.S. Supreme Court for tests of its constitutionality. However, I believe there are many students of the U.S. Constitution and Constitutional lawyers who believe that the immigrants who voluntarily enter the U.S. illegally do not have the rights of citizenship, and any children those illegal immigrants have while in the U.S. illegally are not automatically U.S. citizens.

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By: TyC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408230 Sat, 29 May 2010 14:01:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408230 jfer.

Thanks for your reasonable opinion.

I hope you are a US citizen. If so, you have a right to your opinion of US immigration laws. If you are not, then you have no more right to an opinion than Aten.

My point is simple, if a legal alien doesn’t like our laws, then go home and/or find a better place to go.

They live by our rules, not the other way around.

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By: jfer http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408224 Sat, 29 May 2010 02:18:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408224 @Aten & TyC – you are both wrong, and you are both right…
The illegal immigration bill to cover anchor babies is a catch 22 – yes, our families may have been “illegal” when they came here…but most of us are talking several generations ago, dating back over 100 years. I believe we as their decendants are “legally born” here now.
As far as “No American would be willing to perform unskilled labor-intensive work for peanuts; they would prefer to sit on welfare” – that is a falsehood. Especially in this economic environment. There are plenty of Americans who would do any kind of work to make a living… AND – as for sitting on welfare – well – that entitlement is what is destroying this country, as well as the entire world economy. Look at Greece. Spain is right behind. Why are these countries broke? Why are they panicing? Because their government has them on entitlements where they can retire at full salary at 50 and the government (taxpayers)pay for them for the rest of their lives. Picture a few million people living 30 or 40 years at full pay out of your pocket – giving nothing back to society. There are not enough people working and paying taxes to sustain that – and that is why Europe is crumbling, and we are not far behind.
The Southern boarder needs to be closed to stop more “Entitlement babies” not to mention gangs and drug smugglers from entering and using our “free society” as their free trip to welfare, and the crime sprees that are happening in AZ.

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By: TyC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408220 Fri, 28 May 2010 23:45:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408220 Aten.

Your quote, “Unfortunately your opinion has as much value as mine.”

That’s all that needs to be said after your cynical response. You said nothing that matters…again.

Have a nice day!

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By: Aten http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408215 Fri, 28 May 2010 16:45:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408215 TyC,

Thank you for the advice. I knew that you would have nothing substantial to say in respond. On my way out another observation. Unfortunately your opinion has as much value as mine. Political circus makes you believe that your opinion matters, but I am afraid it is only an illusion. I witnessed many things firsthand and then was able to compare to the disinformation poured on Americans 24/7. People are cynically manipulated to think and do what puppet-masters want them to think and do. There is no journalism and reporting on news channels. Only opinion shows. No wonder that people are mislead. You believe that you know something, but the picture of the World is distorted beyond recognition. With very few exceptions the news available over Internet is of the same quality or embarrassing junk unsuitable for TV. It is easy to organize people by keeping them misinformed and appealing to the lowest instincts like hate. These Arizona initiative is an excellent example. Fyodor Dostoyevsky said that it is impossible to build human happiness if it costs tears of children. I am confident that someday you will understand what he means. If you take time to read Reuters, you are not hopeless. Good bye my friend.

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By: TyC http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408210 Fri, 28 May 2010 12:30:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408210 Aten.

Your opinion doesn’t matter. If you don’t like the laws here, then go home.

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By: Aten http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2010/05/26/arizona-law-author-now-targets-anchor-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-408194 Thu, 27 May 2010 19:57:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/?p=27393#comment-408194 It is pure populism to excite some Americans with brightly colored necks for the upcoming elections. I am a resident alien from Europe. The process of obtaining a green card took eight years. All these prohibitive immigration laws will keep only honest people honest. Criminals will find thousand other ways to get in the US and do their business. These amendments will do nothing to stop them. Americans are benefitting from hard working low-paid immigrants from the South of the border. No American would be willing to perform unskilled labor-intensive work for peanuts; they would prefer to sit on welfare. It is especially strange to hear this kind of rhetoric from people all of whom without exception are the descendants of immigrants.

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