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January 30th, 2008

He’s baaaacccckkk….Nader forms presidential exploratory committee

Posted by: Jeremy Pelofsky
Tags: Tales from the Trail: 2008

Ralph Nader, the consumer advocate who has been accused by Democrats of helping hand the White House to George W. Bush in 2000, has formed a committee to explore another presidential bid.rtr1d731.jpg

Sure to stir up a hornet’s nest, Nader launched an Internet site to recruit campaign workers, paid and unpaid, as well as to raise money for a possible White House run.

Donors who give $300 will receive three books and two DVDs, including Michael Moore’s Sicko movie about the state of health care in the United States.

He has run several times before, including in 2004 as an independent and in 2000 as the Green Party candidate. That year he was blamed by many for siphoning off votes from Al Gore and ultimately resulting in Bush securing the White House. 

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53 comments so far

Ralph would do best as Attorney General in Obama’s government.

- Posted by Hampton

OH NO! THE LOSER IS BACK. WHAT AN EGO. He gave us Bush. And Bush has pulled us down.

- Posted by habrow2

my god… he needs to wake up and stop hurting democrats. This is absurd

- Posted by Tony

ugh… isnt this guy tired of acting like he has a chance to get elected?

- Posted by adrian

Good. Maybe the democratic party will listen to what he has to say and quit selling out to the major coporations!

- Posted by Sean77

Hey Ralph, do something worthwhile. Go to bed.

- Posted by chuck

With a lack of funds he will be hard pressed to find the resources to get on the ballot in most states, unless he gets the nomination of a third party with ballot access this will be a non starter.

- Posted by warren

Ralph should give it up. He is a hopeless grandstander without the full ability to serve.

- Posted by Mary

As a Conservative Republican and a Huckabee supporter, I welcome Ralph Nader baaaack!! This is great news. I’m sure the SOCIALISTS, Hillary and Barack are raising their eyebrows, eh?

Ralph, if he chooses to run, will bring a whole new dynamic to the presidential race, i.e., siphoning votes off the Marxist leftists, Clinton and Obama. Go Ralph, Go.

- Posted by Larkin G. Mead

Nader needs to get involved so the issues will be discussed. The Democrats were so concerned with voters in Florida in 2000 that they took every chance possible to disenfranchise Nader voters in 2004. What hypocrites. If we had candidates who took on corporate America and the special interests, Nader wouldn’t have to run. Instead, we get candidates of the trial lawyers and the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical cos. and the oil industry. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

- Posted by Jeff

Ralph is the only candidate that won’t be owned by the most powerful lobby in America and its MSM pigeons. See what Ralp has to say about the lobby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rD_rWcDR ZQ

- Posted by AJ

WHATEVER!!

- Posted by Enough

If Hillary gets nominated, I would vote for Nader

- Posted by Mirza

I understand your point of view Nader, but will never forgive you for 2000-2008. By putting ideology over practicality, you negated whatever good you have done for this world 5000 fold.

- Posted by Christian

You’re right– Ralph seems made for a job like AG, while nobody inspires like Barack, who could become one of the all time greats, at least judging by the way he inspires me personally.

- Posted by Rob H

Ralph should just sit this one out. I know independent candidates like to use the presidential election as a way to get their political message out to the public, but I doubt many of his former liberal supporters would give him a good reception since he is blamed for helping win the 2000 election for George Bush. Ralph never had very many conservative supporters to begin with so I doubt they would give him a good reception either. I doubt he would be able to get on the ballot in very many states and jumping into the race so late in the game would be considered in poor taste. Those very few who still like Ralph’s message have probably already heard it. Write another book or something Ralph, don’t waste your time running for president. Nobody cares, your 15 minutes of fame are already up.

- Posted by N. Otter

You go Nader!!! Siphon votes from HillBillaRee this time!!!

- Posted by theMADblopper

It is time for him to pack up that Corvair and ride into the sunset!

- Posted by fuready

After the “spoiler” effect we had from his last “run” for the White House and the price we’ve had to pay, (8 years of a developing fascist regime) I often wonder what would motivate Mr. Nader to repeat his last performance.
We do not need another Republican in the White House, that is the only possible outcome of his projected candidacy. God help us all!

- Posted by Margaret

please, just go away already. He must be secretly funded by the Republicans.

- Posted by bush_wacked

Good. The documentary “An Unreasonable Man” is very telling about how ugly politics is in this country, as if we didn’t already know. But everyone loved Ralph Nader in 2000 and I never heard his name mentioned in the aftermath of 9/11. But suddenly wars go badly, privacy concerns materialize, and with perfect 20/20 hindsight he was vilified - as if he could possibly know what would happen. What HAS happened?!

Nonetheless like Ron Paul, John Edwards, and even Dennis Kucinich, his ideas are rather sound and thus he is NOT U.S. presidential material. We want (need?) someone who can lie point blank to us, tell us what we want to hear, and then disappear beneath a veil of secrecy.

But if he can “siphon” off votes from a potential Hillary Clinton nomination for president, then I’ll pay him now, shake his hand if ever get the chance, and later throw a pie in the face of at least one pretentious, whiny snob who believes it’s more important to be affiliated with party X, than - I don’t know - making positive changes or even believing in positive changes.

- Posted by Ben

Haven’t we had more than enough of Ralph Nader? I’d rather work to keep him off the grid than on it. Thanks Ralph for helping to give us 8 years of the most callous and malignant leadership this nation has ever known.

- Posted by Jack

Please don’t do this! Don’t run.

- Posted by gigi grill

Folks, if we are going to revisit the 2000 election every time we bring up Ralph Nader’s name, we ought also to throw in the little detail that Al Gore actually won the 2000 election.

- Posted by Elmer

Umm the only independant that will be getting any votes is Ron Paul. Nader is a commie.

- Posted by James

Jeremy,

The odd thing is so few people are talking about the fact that the “spoiler” issue can be eliminated from our elections through reforms like Instant Runoff Voting. Odder still is the fact that Nader himself rarely talks about it.

I talk about this in my post at Instant Runoff Voting Excluded: An Unreasonable Omission from An Unreasonable Man. I hope you’ll check it out and get in touch if you want to learn more about this. It’s a crucial issue in our democracy and especially regarding Nader.

- Posted by Howard

What was Ralph Nader thinking when he decided to run for president against impossible odds? Read WHAT WAS RALPH NADER THINKING? and find out! Written by Nader 2004 campaign filmmaker, Jurgen Vsych http://thewomandirector.com

- Posted by Jurgen Vsych

God, no. Not again. This man apparently has a pathological need for attention.

- Posted by Tony

Ralph Nader would make a great Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court. But the truth is we need our warrior out there fighting for us on all fronts. We need to pitch in and help him. Speak up for him,he speaks up for us! Seb McGarigle

- Posted by Seb McGarigle

Good Gawd! Will someone please lock up Nader until the election is over…I am weary of his taking just the few votes needed to get rid of the Republican White House.

- Posted by Beverlee Couillard

Excellent, I certainly hope he runs. Stop the party politics and make independent choices. He’s right about corporate welfare and the broken electoral system that bans candidates from debates and ballots.

- Posted by Sean

I’m really glad to hear this news. To all the democrats so worried he will steal their votes that never belonged to them in the first place…stop worrying. There’s no way any progressives are going to bother wasting a vote for Hilary or Obama anyway. I’d rather just not vote. So, quit trying to be spoilers for those of us who still believe in choices, in a democracy. There should be MANY candidates to choose from. Three isn’t enough! Nader brings up so many important issues like something called Instant Runoff Voting, which would eliminate this bizarre “spoiler” mentality that people have.

- Posted by Freyja

Ralph should suck it up and support someone that can win and maybe he could get a cabinet post to carry the garbage out of the White House, or cook in the Kitchen.

- Posted by Jerry

Who will I vote for if Nader does not run? I blame the democrats for the last 8 years, not Nader. The democrats have ignored the important issues for too long and drifted too far right of center (Yes, the democrats are the new conservatives). WAKE UP PEOPLE!! The democrats are not all that different from the republicans. Might as well call them the Republicrats. We may not be able to win this year but every vote for Nader or the Green Party is a vote in the right direction! I refuse to vote for a Republicrat!

- Posted by John

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- Posted by Blogula Rasa » I Screamed In The Elevator…

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- Posted by Farewell Edwards « Fitness for the Occasion

Why do people keep buying into this egomania bull? What’s it based on? The only reason anyone has ever given me to claim he is an egomaniac is, when you come down to it, because he’s run for president. Okay, fine, but then they’re all egomaniacs and I’d prefer the one who channels his egomania by fighting for justice, safety and democracy his entire life and doesn’t take a rest just because he’s over 70. (If you don’t know much about Nader’s life’s work check your library for Justin Martin’s biography or the documentary ‘An Unreasonable Man’)

Winning enough votes to able to take away the votes that the major candidates need is the ONLY way to get the vital issues and solutions heard (the ones the major parties don’t want to upset their corporate paymasters with) and/or your agenda picked up. It’s not ego, it’s PRACTICAL. So-called strategic voting is, ironically, the poorer strategy. If you vote for the lesser evil you’ll get a little less of what you want with every election. Think back, use your hindsight, hasn’t that been the case?

Go watch “An Unreasonable Man” and then explain to me how Nader’s runs are just ego trips.

- Posted by Bri N.

One Path to the Presidency

Gordon E. Finley, Ph.D.

Both leading Democratic candidates repeatedly have emphasized “change” as a core theme in their campaigns for the presidential nomination. They talk of changes to improve the lives of women, Blacks, Hispanics, and children — but I still am waiting to hear what changes they have in mind to help me, other white men, and boys specifically.

In October, 2007 David Paul Kuhn published The Neglected Voter: White Men and the Democratic Dilemma. The most important statistic in this book is that white males constitute the second largest voting bloc in America: “They [white males] make up between 36 and 39 percent of voters, roughly five times more than Hispanic male and female voters combined. White women are about a 5 percent larger voting bloc than white men…” (p. 6).

Listening to the acceptance and concession speeches following the Democratic primary in South Carolina last night, I heard no candidate speaking to us. Not surprisingly, Kuhn argues, white men vote Republican. Democrats seeking to win big on Super Tuesday next week might well want to begin by reading Kuhn’s book today.

To help them along, here are three critical issues for men. The first is job outsourcing and the economy — focusing on jobs for men as well as jobs for women. The next is divorce and child support. The biggest negative consequence for men of past presidential pandering to the women’s vote is that federal law now funds the divorce and domestic violence industries that separate fathers from their children and transfer wealth from men to women. To regain the male vote of all racial and ethnic groups, Democrats must come to value boys and men, support marriage, discourage divorce by leveling the legal playing field, and encourage father-child relationships.

If this does not constitute change, I don’t know what would.

The third and most important long-term issue is the boy and man crisis in education. As widely documented, in K through 12, boys are losing ground to girls on virtually all indices. At the undergraduate, level men constitute at best 40% of college students, and at the graduate and professional levels they constitute distinct minorities in most fields.

What boys need is a massive change in social attitudes giving them the same kinds of social support and encouragement now given to girls. At the federal level, boys also need the same kinds of interventions designed to remedy and enhance educational attainment currently offered to girls.

So, what’s all this got to do with the path to the presidency in 2008? In my view, just as candidates began attending to the needs, wants, and aspirations of girls and women in the 1960’s, so too today, do candidates need to attend to the needs, wants, and aspirations of boys and men not only if they wish to win the Presidency – but far more importantly – if they wish to improve the quality of life for all citizens in 2009 and beyond.

Gordon E. Finley, Ph.D. is Professor of Psychology at Florida International University in Miami. His faculty web site is: http://psych.fiu.edu/Faculty&StaffPages2  /Finley/Finley.htm

- Posted by Gordon E. Finley, Ph.D.

Nader is arguably more qualified to be President than anyone who has ever held that office. I’ve already sent my contribution and will be working for his campaign.

The spoiler issue is nonsense. Studies have shown that without the increased interest among young people sparked by Nader’s 2000 campaign, Bush would have actually won the election fair and square.

My vote has to be earned. Democrats don’t “own” my vote, so nobody can “steal” it. They think they do, but they have another think coming.

=Gary

- Posted by Gary

Hey! Ralph has done a lot for this country. you may not agree with him running and trying to break up a 2 party system…but his record, his work, and his commitment is rad! c’mon….you know you want ralph to be your prez, but you are just afraid of republicans.

- Posted by Ari

Mark Twain once said, “The history of our race, and each individual’s experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.” Democrats have given much credence to this. Nader didn’t spoil in 2000. Watch An Unreasonable Man. They prove mathematically that he couldn’t have. In fact, there is a pro-Democrat statistician from Harvard interviewed that shows the numbers and concludes that he probably even HELPED Gore.

- Posted by Tim D

some of the negative comments on here make me disappointed to be an american.

APATHY HAS GOTTEN US TO THE STATE OF THIS UNION.

The democrats are corporate shills and are no different than republicans..

please guys… wake the hell up.

- Posted by joe

GO NADER!!! NO MORE PARTISAN HACKS!! AN ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT NOW!

- Posted by vote nader!!!!

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- Posted by Nick Anstead » links for 2008-01-31

The democrats do not own my vote. In fact, thanks to their anti-democratic efforts in 2004 to knock Nader off the ballot in several states, I now refuse to vote for democrats.

- Posted by Cjab

Nader will run with Gore on a Green independent ticket and win the 2008 election by exposing and fighting against the corporatist Empire hiding behind this facade of ‘Vichy America’, which by November will have thrown the US into a second Great Depression and a greatly expanded war in the Middle East.

- Posted by Alan MacDonald

Oh I cannot wait until Hillary and McCain have to face down Nader, Paul, and Bloomberg for votes in the general election.

This is the best thing that could happen to America.

CHOICE.

Now I see the loser democrats are wining all ready. Give it up.. winning is more important to you than ending our horrible foreign policy that has left countless nations destroyed, controlled, and left us in harms way. We wouldn’t want to not just end the Iraq war.. but all the wars and occupations from Germany, Japan, Korea, Afghanistan.. we would not want to fix the economy and make drastic changes that we need. No we just want to win.. thanks democrats for self perpetuating your crappy party that does nothing but bloat our government and try and look pretty while you do it. Do not get me started on the Neo Conservatives in both parties.. UGH.. you guys are pathetic..

CHOICE

I hope hundred big names run in the general election I hope their is so many choices it makes us dizzy.. I hope the candidates all get 10 percent a piece.. I hope that finnaly we would have a real election.. anyone who complains about that.. needs to move to Russia.. or perhaps China.

- Posted by ACUTS

Horray Ralphie is baaaacck!!!! Go get em Nadar!!

- Posted by Cali

Ralph, please give it up. You can only do more than good in the end.

- Posted by Frank

Nader’s a national treasure and a modern day Abe Lincoln or Thomas Jefferson! 100-200 years ago Nader would have been hailed as a great American thinkers and statesmen. Sadly, nowadays anything that smacks of ideas, dreams or vision is seen as hopelessly romantic. Even the mere mention of health care reform or livable wages is seen as foolish. What a pathetic nation of sheep we have become. Go Nader, you have my vote!

- Posted by Mark

Ralph Nader does not stand a chance in hell of being elected. As a Ralph Nader fan for many years, I hope that we will not see a repeat of 2004. Barack Obama may be the lesser of two evils, but a lesser evil is better than another 4 years of Republicans in power. Ralph, please don’t be a spoiler again.

- Posted by Alan

If Senator Obama gets nominated, I’ll be voting for Nader.

- Posted by BigMark

Nader needs to give it up. I mean come on. He’s a five-time presidential candidate and every time hes just been shut down. I feel bad for him because all he is doing is making a joke out of himself. Someone needs to tell this 74 year old consumer advocate that Enough is Enough! what the hell is he thinking trying to run for president again?? i respect the fact that he is still trying, but seriously. Sit this one out Nader, you’ll be doing not only the democrats, but all of us a HUGE favor.

- Posted by Corey

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